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Old February 18th, 2011 #7
Thomas de Aynesworth
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Conservatism loses - always. It does not intend to win, it intends to whine. It is a "game; a way of making a living." - Joe Sobran's words about professional conservatism. It sells the suckers called the public the idea that there's an opponent to the liberal order, when in fact, if the public looked more carefully, it would see that the conservatives agree with the liberals on the deep stuff. That is why there is never any positive change, over time, simply the seemingly inexorable march of liberalization, no matter what the public says in polls or what levers it pulls in the voting booth.
It may be a game to those sellouts who are commonly referred to as American conservatives, but the reality is much, much darker. Conservatism today acts as a mechanism to divert what could be called the neutral-racial, or pseudo-racial American electorate. I refer to those whites who in everyday conversation may make a quip or a joke about blacks, Asians and maybe even Jews, but are ostensibly anti-racists, the crux being that they move away from non-whites into all white enclaves called suburbs. They would be the proverbial horse who refuses to drink at the watering hole.
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As Solzhenitsyn has said, there is no true self-defense -- and this goes for communal self-defense, too -- unless you are willing to risk dying. Until then, there is only compromising and excuse-making.
Yes, the best defence is uncompromising offence until the enemy is dead. I totally agree here.

Compromising and excuse making could be generally called "selling out" or in particular: "making friends with our enemies as a strategy for success." The Catholics, in their Vatican II did this, and in that they've been successful, insofar as they've lost millions upon millions of white practising Christians but have gained millions upon millions of non-whites into their so-called "flock."
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Dirty conservatism, as WN is, is simply online entertainment at this point. Perhaps this phase is necessary; at the least there are more sites and writers than ever discussing the same problems VNN brought up back in 2000. That is good.
A compromiser (read: sell-out) would argue that this phase is necessary for laying the seeds of true revolutionary activity. My counter-claim would be that the seeds are already there, and that this is the boiling point. Unlike other historical revolutions, however, the revolutionaries are just...not creating violent revolutions. It stands out in European history. What mechanism is keeping the stove-top temperature at "simmer" and not "boil?"
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For WN to be more than entertainment, its adherent must be willing to submit to discipline. There is no willingness to do that right now.
There is also a compulsion within WN to proclaim to others what WN must ought to do. So the question becomes: how do we make them agree and take us seriously? What is the proverbial gunshot that will kick-start this whole thing? If anything, the fact that there wasn't an armed uprising after the Knoxville murders is rather disheartening.
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Nor is there willingness honestly to discuss why WN can't organize effectively. That would mean taking Mao's dictum seriously (Power comes out of the barrel of a gun), whereas conservatives prefer the comfortable dream that if they just buy the right suit, employ the right euphemism, smile at the right person - their key will start the engine. Because they reject the principled, ideological, impersonal politics of the judeo-left -- as recently exemplified by Ed Asner in the article about conservative actors -- and allow their personal relations and whims to overcome what they know they should do, they will continue to fail to foster any real development beyond mutual backscratching.
WN can't even decide whether to organize groups and/or political parties, or go lone-wolf (a la leaderless movements). Both strategies have their flaws - groups tend to either sell-out or be massacred relentlessly - leaderless movements tend to have "followers" pandering as leaders, of themselves. Most humans are more easily led than they are leaders.
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Jew tool Jared Taylor serves as a bellweather for our movement. So long as he is accepted as a White nationalist, no serious movement exists. The minute he is rejected with spitting hostility as the enemy by those who call themselves White men, then something real may be in the offing.
We don't even really have an effective, centralized medium to reject Taylor. I can say that I, personally reject him, but I don't speak for the collective cause of white nationalism.
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1) from the genetically low intelligence of the Southern-Midwestern rural demographic base. These people are not overly intelligent, so contradictions don't bother them, because they often don't notice them. They know to respect men who dress and speak well, and these individual successes mean far more, in their eyes, than consistent, principled political lines.
This I have no background in, never have I travelled to the Mid-West. However, I would probably label these folk that those aforementioned neutral-racial whites.
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2) our British culture. Anglo (British and colonial) culture is noted for non-ideological "muddling through." In England, society is rigidly stratified between the rich and the proles. The rich all went to Oxford or Cambridge. Any political debate these tories and labour lords may have matter far less to them, at the end of the day, than the fact that they belong to the same social class. England's preference is for experimenting, for pragmatism, for muddling through - not for ideology, philosophy, and principle - these are seem as Continental, European, French or German.
I suppose this could be true. It stands to reason though that the French Revolution gained much of its momentum from the French soldiers returning from the American Revolution. It seems to me that ideology is only as effective as the momentum behind it, the speakers, the activists, the soldiers on the ground who are not afraid to march through black neighbourhoods singing revolutionary songs and waving flags with revolutionary symbols.
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This attitude carried over to America. Although class is less rigid here, the hands-on, can-do pragmatism, a natural response to an open continent needing labor to make things rather than think about things, already a part of the English heritage, only strengthened the anti-ideological streak.
I would almost argue that this is a home-grown American form of pragmatism, fostered after the events of AD 1776. I have never seen a more self-absorbed, individualistic civilization than the contemporary American one.
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In America, you say what you want when the cameras are rolling, but when the red light goes off, you repair to the bar to drink with your liberal buddy, like Ted Kennedy and Orin Hatch, or Pat Buchanan and Alan Colmes.
Sounds like that "I don't agree with what you say, but I'd die to let you say it" idiom. A vulnerable part of the American ethos if I've ever seen one.
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This system can only be overcome by people who are radically principled, and impersonal in their politics.
I'm surprised by how many Americans fly Dixie flags, and Revolutionary flags, not to mention the pro-gun crowd. The American government is soft, complacent and wholly liberal, even when the GOP is in power. I'd say that most white Americans are radically principled.
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If someone falls on the wrong side of the line, they reject him. Just as Ed Asner rejected the conservative starlet for being pro-Bush. Even though he personally liked her, the minute the jew found out she was part of the hated other, he never spoke to her again. That is awesomely impressive. But the conservatives, even most WN, will simply find it inhuman and unthinkable.
Most ideologically minded groups function this way, hell, you can see this in a high-school cafeteria. The trick is to pull all the exiles together, give them guns, and let them vent their frustrations and satisfy their vendettas.
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3) a final cultural source of the problem is Christianity. The christ cult emphasizes the soft virtues over everything else: love, mercy, forgivenness. You should be able to see how this dovetails with overlooking the flaws or contradictions in others and their politics. Christianity strengthens the cultural tendency to play down differences, rather than make them dividing points. This is what women instinctively do within a family. But when important distinctions are glossed over in the wider community, genocide can be the result. For this reason, among a thousand others, the christ cult imperils the white race.
There is an overarching theme here - effeminacy. The church used to call Crusades to satisfy petty squabbles like a girl-child pulling anothers hair or wanting her pony. Today that child has matured into an ungraceful old hag who blathers on about the bygone era and feels entitled to special treatment, and has multiple personalities due to senility. Of course she is still muttering the same old lines that still seem to be culturally relevant with white folk worldwide - equality and love. It's time to dispense with the old bag.
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Like liberals with niggers, WN are always making excuses and extenuations for people who are doing overtly anti-White things, like mixing with jews. Greg Johnson making excuses for Jared Taylor is the perfect example. He wastes his valuable time, and vitiates the psychic strength he and the cause needs, by fighting to defend a position he knows is utterly untenable and indefensible.
I for one do not support these people, either, and I doubt many VNNers do. Why waste our time with historical dust-bin candidates when we're in this for the long-haul?
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If jews are as bad as I and all true VNN people say they are, then why are so many of you willing to make jokes of yourselves by going, oh, that's ok. We don't really mean it. We don't mind if you work with jews, and make excuse for them. And tell whites to blame their own farmer grandparents rather than the jew commies who fucked up our countries. We'll just ignore all that and throw our principles out the window cuz we like your conferences and how you dress and speak. The willingness to do this is testament to the too-low intellectual, moral and political quality of far too many who call themselves White Nationalists.
A3P is another example of this. The whole "Jews are the problem, lets work with Jews" is flawed logic beyond all repair. Discipline, rigidness and Vanguardism is the only way for a successful, holistic white revolution in America. Dressing up like conservatives is not.
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I will not stand for anti-White garbage like Jared Taylor, and you shouldn't either. Instead, you should join me in pointing him out for what he is: the jew-appointed head of the White NAACP; his Am-Ren an organization designed to fool white nationalists the same way William F. Buckley suckered jews, and the same way the original NAACP suckered blacks (out of going back to Africa, or relying on their own efforts rather than blaming the white man).
No support from this corner. We've already to a great extent created our own community of American white nationalists for 60 years now, why muddle that up for Jew toadies? I'd like to think that we're not that desperate.
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What we say about jews is right. And men must either be with us, or be the enemy. There is no ignoring, overlooking, splitting down the middle, pretending you compartmentalize the nigger question from the jew question. On some things there is no compromise, and jews are one of them.
This has to be massively disseminated, as much a possible. The more WNs you have thinking this way, the more boots you have on the ground. WNs philosophy is to gain power from non-WNs, yet so many of us throw backyard barbecues, kvetch about niggers, and pretend as if that has made a difference.
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A principled, stern, uncompromising, rigidly ideological politics is what we need. Where do we look for examples? To the jews, the communists, and the German loyalists who evolved techniques to combat them. Not to England. Not to the church. To the people who faced the same problem we do and had more success than any other group in solving that problem.
See, there is factionalism in WN more than anything, because WN is an umbrella term for all pro-white political (and non-political) movements. We have tons of people, but no one true faith. Purging ourselves of Jew toadies is one way to start a gradual progression to this, but not enough to kick-start this whole thing in the next decade or so.