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WTF? That's some weird shit, dude. But I appreciate that you took the time to post those (terribly drawn) pictures since it reminded me of why I don't read any of that overrated DC crap. (I prefer the infinitely superior Marvel Comics, the ones that were published in the 70s, 80s and early 90s.) |
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So was the original Wonder Woman ... About Marvel, I'm especially a fan of the 1970s and 1980s comics. |
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I found it interesting to know that the TV series was, at least a little, inspired by the original work of Marston's comics. Thanks for the interesting videos, Comrade Ray. |
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Nice reminder of the crap I was fed in grade school.
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Of course it is. But I didn't watch Lynda Carter as Wonder Woman when I was a teenager for the show's intelligent plots and historical accuracy.
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Enjoying this thread, although I was never much into Wonder Woman. As for Gadot not looking right, well, Wonder Woman is supposed to be an amazon (Greek), so a Mediterranean type would fit.
The comics were fun. badly drawn? It was the style then. They're kind of hokey compared to the 60's and beyond. The bondage stuff is revealing. In the late 40's to the 50's, there seemed to be a fetish for cutting women's hair. I recall about a half-dozen movies where the lead actress was clipped, and it happened too often to just be a coincidence, and seemed obligatory. Strange about fetishes. The funny thing was, Moulton and Marston thought Wonder Woman would spark an interest in classical literature, and lead to its revival among comic readers. The results are before us. In the comic sample, it reminds me Wonder Woman had a sidekick like the red-haired girl in the sample, and also four (?) coeds at a college. It was kind of silly, but pretty much in the 40's style, and in the WW movie, the woman who is a kind of secretary recalls that character. Also, the incessant wisecracks ('giving me the hobo's rush, eh?'), typical of comics. WW would say something like'Holy Hera', or 'Merciful Minerva,' which is odd, since, being Greek, she would say Athena and not Minerva. Yeah, Marvel was really apeshit on Nazis. I remember reading The Howling Commandos, with Nick Fury and his 'Howlers". The Germans are always talking vid Der accents, and every third sentence is 've are Der master race..dese Amerikaners cannot vin!' And this was in 1964. Odd too that one of the Howlers was black...it was a segregated military then, and if you're always sneaking behind enemy lines in occupied Europe, would you really want a black guy? Especially one who blows a bugle every time you attack? But it was the 60's, and Marvel was pushing the race thing, called 'civil rights' back then. Mostly I read comics for the artwork. It's funny how the movie crowd have been aching to make a WW movie, but it took so long, and they were frustrated by it. I kind of though Xena took care of the tough woman figure, but Xena was ignored by Hollywood. The first WW movie with Gal Gadot was kind of fun to look at, but it was pretty silly. What's interesting is how critics kept blathering how this was a significant and role-bending movie. Said the same about Captain Marvel. As for the TV Wonder Woman, I missed it, and no great loss. Note in the clip the SS men need a haircut...those sideburns wouldn't pass inspection. Also, if it's during the war, they wouldn't be wearing black; that was phased out for feldgrau, but that's a common Hollywood mistake. WW 1984: doesn't seem to be taking off, although Hollywood insists it's a booming success, and a WWIII is on the way. As for WW1984: I went through the 80's, and once was enough. If I'm not going to review it, anyone else up for it? |
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More Wonder Woman battling SS men in wrong uniform
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Excellent post, Comrade Steven Clark, and beautiful videos, Comrade Ray.
Really, the TV series is inspired a lot by Marston's original comics. The graphic novel for the DC Comics Earth One line called “Wonder Woman: Earth One Vol. 1”, shows Wonder Woman being judged by Queen Hypolita, for having escaped the island to help the sick pilot Steve Trevor, who had crashed on Themyscira coast. And this is another magazine of Wonder Woman, ''Point Blank''. I would like to read all of these entire magazines. Last edited by Lutador Branco; January 4th, 2021 at 06:53 PM. |
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If you're looking for a Wonder Woman comic series, try Love and Murder, a graphic in 2007 written by Jodi Piccoult and well illustrated, and WW leading a double life, fighting Circe, her mother, amazons wrecking DC, with Superman and Batman in on the action.
Kind of a general dump for WW fans, and well illustrated. No Nazis, and lots of vamping and cunning by a pink haired Circe. it's supposed to be top notch written by A REAL WOMAN WRITER, but it's the usual comic book stuff. Interestingly enough, although Marston and Moulton wrote and illustrated the original Wonder Woman, most of the staff, inkers, and letters were women. Also, in the 60's, WW woman had...a sister...made of black clay (you'll recall, WW fringies, that WW was molded from white clay by her mother) called Nubia. Yes, she was black. Really fucking shameless at the lengths these guys went to incorporate blacks in their comics. Also feminism. In one WW comic in 1972, a feminist says: 'I never ASKED to be denied what's denied me because I'm a woman! I'm told to be a whole person, but never fight, build, or envision--only to respond! Perhaps I'm incompetent and unsure, but I'm conscious of it and enraged at anyone who says I must STAY that way.' I have no idea what this means. Although it sounds a lot like what feminists were saying then. It was a very wacky time for anything resembling rational thought. The Jews really saw an opening, and they took it. |
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Hope you like it, Lutador, and also, the graphic has no blacks...Amazons, etc., all are white except for a sassy housewife WW saves. And in a park, a woman is saved by WW and the mugger is...black. Wow. About 2000, the blacks in comics actually were realistically depicted, but that changed.
Also, on Ray's second WW TV series clip, where the SS man looks up at a captive Wonder Woman, his uniform is incorrect. The tabs on his lapels are army, not SS. The lapels would have been black with black and white twining. pretty crappy uniform, but it was TV, and who cared? And with Lynda Carter onscreen, who would notice? The actor looks a bit Jewish, meseems. |
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I only saw a few scenes of fake Wonder Woman Gal Gadot when the 2017 movie came on TV, but they did get the WW1 German uniforms correct. Since Hitler was an unknown corporal at the time, General Erich Ludendorff was the villian. He dies in the movie, which is inaccurate, Ludendorff survived the war and later testified on Hitler's behalf at his trial after the Munich Beer Hall Putsch, and died in 1937. Also, the movie takes place in 1918--Steve Trevor is shown flying a 1915-vintage Fokker Eindekker, which would have been obsolete by 1918. I just couldn't watch any more of that crappy movie though, let alone Wonder Woman 1984.
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