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More and more people are scared of a Third World War . .

Such an idea isn't that far off . .


Albert Pike and Giuseppe Mazzini ( Pike being a high-degree Freemason at that time ( 33rd degree ) and Grand Master of the Scottish Rite ; Mazzini being the ( formal ) leader of the NWO back then ( actually the second after Weishaupt . . ) . .


. . even though the true leadership of the NWO is the Rothschild family . . )


. . worked out a plan for 3 world wars back in 1871 . .

World Wars 1 and 2 pretty much went after plan . .

What interest could the NWO have in a Third World War ?

Well . .


That's what they do . .

To be sure of a wanted outcome the NWO always trys to reinsure itself . .

They could do it by either . .

a ) conquest

b ) supposed "consent" . .


or . .








How could a possible Third World War look like ?

We could use our own imagination , could seek documents by those who plan it laying it open or . . could trust visions . .

That's right . .

The world is full of people who have claimed visions concerning a Third World War . .

This is not only for the 'esoteric' element among our movement , it is an unbiased rendition of a man who claimed 'visions' . .

In this case , the 'sighting' is from 1994 , by a man called Gottfried von Werdenberg ( living in Austria ) . .

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THE ENERGY SITUATION
There will not be an energy crisis, political or otherwise, in the near future in Middle and West Europe. However, do not depend on oil or gas. Coal and wood will celebrate a comeback. Before the Third World War begins, Russia will cut supplies of gas and oil to other nations. In addition, there will be a second Military conflict in the Saudi Arabian region before WW3 (= World War 3). There will not be another Chernobyl disaster before WW3. The energy crisis will come, however, before WW3.

FARMING
Small fare-holders should not sell. They will be safe. Today's policy of "chemical' farming will not last long. Only those living in the country, will survive the War. Happy are those who will have a small farm.

ALIENS IN COUNTRIES
Germany, France, Italy but also England have many foreign subjects. Many countries will experience public unrest, a kind of civil war. Shortly before the outbreak of WW3, many people from East Europe and South East Europe will pour into West Europe. Islamic members will grow in strenght and confront Christianity.

GERMANY
Germany's economic power will come to an end. The "economic miracle" will be finished for ever. Germany will not recover economically before WW3. She will bleed. She cannot cope with her position as the treasurer for the whole world, the cost of her reunification, and the recession to come. Taxation will become unbearable for her people; the standard of living will fall, and the economy will become desolate.

BOHEMIA
The Czech and Slovac countries will remain stable until WW3. They will not suffer events like those currently going on in the former Yugoslavia. However, they will suffer very much during WW3.

YUGOSLAVIA
The current civil war will finish shortly before WW3, probably with the help of foreign participation.

POLAND
Poland will suffer a grave, armed conflict in the near future, probably in the South. The reason is not known. It might be connected with the civil unrest in neighboring nations, e.g. in Germany. Political stability and peace have finally ended.

INFLATION
From the mid-90s onwards, inflation will rise in Europe, but there will not be a complete currency collapse. The economic and monetary bankruptcy will come before the civil wars and merge without problems into WW3.

RUSSIA
Russia will remain politically stable, materialistic, and atheistic. People who keep saying that Russia is beginning to be converted, as Our Blessed Lady stated at Fatima, show complete ignorance and a confused mind. Together with other global powers, Russia will regain godless. Even the increasing number of Christians will not change this fact. The real conversion of Russia comes after WW3. This is the only true meaning of the message of Fatima. Military leaders will take over power in Russia before WW3.

The youth in Western Europe has no interest in joining the armed forces. This will have grave consequences in the coming war. Governments should provide powerful and effective defenses, efficient protection against pollution, and a restrictive policy for foreign subjects. US Forces will withdraw completely from Europe, thus making matters easier for the Russians. The chaos will be perfect.

CHINA
China is the oly exception economically. She will continue to grow. A clever leadership will use the one billion people. Their demands are very modest; cheap labor in agriculture and industry combined with modern Western technology provide huge profit for China, which she will use to strenghten her armed forces with modern weapons. China will become a super-power and, like Japan, it has a homogeneous population, which is very beneficial for a nation, unlike the Western nations and Russia where many foreign nationals and ethnic minority groups live.

THE RAIN OF FIRE
There will be a cosmic event most definitely before WW3. It will be a beautiful summer's day in Austria; no cloud to be seen in the sky. People in the village are excited; they look towards the sun which begins to darken. It is approximately 10 o'clock normal time, not summer time. Whilst the sun is getting darker, dusk is covering the earth. It is not the usual solar eclipse but a kind of fog in the universe far outside of our atmosphere.

The sky is getting darker: At first there are only a few stars, then more and more appear. One is able to see them at first in the west, then in the north. There are no stars in the east and in the south where the sun was last seen. There is no moon. It is a normal clear sky illuminated by the light of the stars. One is still able to identify the ground, but one cannot read any writing.

Suddenly the stars disappear. Complete darkness is covering the earth. A few minutes pass; now it is getting brighter. One is able to see the surrounding area. There is no sun. Billions of white dots can be observed in the East. It is like a rain of glowing fire moving from East North East to West South West very quickly. It is hitting the ground like a heavy fall of hail. The glow turns from white to yellow then to glowing red before hitting the ground. They fall in distances of 50m (165 ft) to 100m (330 ft) apart; they make no noise.

When they hit the ground they look like dust particles or grains of sand. Some are as big as a child's fist. The villagers do not seek cover; they do not appear to be afraid. The time between the sighting of the particles in the North East and their hitting the ground is a matter of seconds, maximum a minute or so.

Once the particles hit the ground, it becomes bright again. A fierce storm begins to blow now from the East and creates fire; it drives before it the fierce fire. The grass is burning; forests are burning; fields are burning; barns, sheds, and farm buildings are on fire; houses and factories are burning, too. The sun will not shine again on this day.

The cause of the rain of glowing fire might be a comet, directly or indirectly responsible for it. The seer is unable to tell. The time of the year is the summer, probably the first half of August. The year is not given but it could be any year from 1995 onwards.

THE DESTRUCTION OF NEW YORK

The destruction of New York will not be part of World War Three. It will happen beforehand.

The seer cannot give the year (God has His own reason). New York is destroyed by the hatred of Islamic-Arab circles. It is probably connected with the US engagement in the second - and still to come - Middle East War but in any case it is done in reply to something that the Americans have done to the Arabs. The seer has seen the destruction of New York in all details.

It is beautiful early summer weather in Austria. It could be noon. The year is not known, but it is speculated (based on indications) that it could be 1998, plus or minus one year. But remember, this is only speculation.

New York will be destroyed by several small nuclear devices, one of them could be a small atomic bomb. The main nuclear device is probably launched from a ship; the missile will fly in a curve and explode behind a large building facing the sea. Buildings will not collapse immediately. The waves created by the nuclear explosion, will shift whole buildings; some may lean a fey degrees. However, the result is that they will break up at the base. If one watched the spectacle from the sea, it would seem as if the skycrapers were walking towards the sea but slowly disappearing into the ground.

Manhattan will be flattened completely. New York's suburbs will not be harmed; only New York's center will be destroyed.

Radio and television in Europe will report the event. Words will not be minced. People will say that what the Americans did to the Arabs was abominable, but to destroy New York is going to far.

The destruction of New York will have no consequences for Europe, where no eminent signs of a forthcoming war are visible.

THE PRE-WAR PERIOD

The rain of glowing fire can be considered a warning that World War Three is close. The same applies to the destruction of New York. Even the armed conflict in the Middle East which will take place on Arabian soil and include Saudi Arabia, but does not involve nuclear weapons, is a sign of a major war to come. The USA will inavade Saudi Arabia's oil area but will be defeated.

Prior to WW3 there will be war in Africa, from the North to the South. The fate of South Africa is not known, but people are warned not to emigrate to South Africa. Only the West of the African Continent will survive relatively unscathed.

Before WW3, power in Europe is held by the radical left. Bolshevism and Communism celebrate a renaissance. Christendom and Church suffer persecution by leaders of the extreme left, especially in Italy and France. The multi-national society will show multi-national crimes. Attacks, theft, murder, drugs, rape will be daily occurences. There will be civil war in France, Italy, and England. Germany will suffer a similar situation, also countries in northern Europe. Bohemia (the Czech and Slovak nations) will remain stable.

The energy crisis will reach its peak before WW3.

Shortly before the outbreak of WW3, mil-lions of people from the East and South East of Europe will flood West European nations.

The chaos in Europe begins approximately at the same time, or shortly after the American forces have completed the greater part of their withdrawal from Europe.

One cannot rely on the USA during WW3, only on the Chinese. Immorality, the absence of love for one's neighbor, and a refusal to serve in the armed forces will reign supreme. War in West Europe is the punishment for it all.

Russia will be ruled again by an authoritarian red regime. They will reassure the West of their "peaceful co-existance", and many West Europeans will be blinded by it.

THE THIRD WORLD WAR

There will be no war in Central Europe (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) until mid-1997. It is possible that the war could start in the late summer of 1997 -which is unlikely- or in 1998. Most likely it will be 1999.

First it will be Austria's turn, then Germany's, then Switzerland's; this is certain. The military conflict will be finished at the turn of the century. Cosmic events, like the fall of comets, and earthquakes may last a little longer.

The military conflict will last approx. 2 years; somewhat less in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. The Russians will first occupy Austria for her strategic importance. There will be very little resistance by the Austrians. The USA will not intervene. The Russians will steal what they can so as to keep their troops fed. Any resistance will be useless. When the civil war in Italy reaches its peak, Russia will invade in.

Approximatley at the time of the Russian occupation of Austria, civil war will rage at its worst in Italy and France ruled over by godless extreme left-wing governments. The clergy is being persecuted. There will be mass murder and violent plunder.

The social outcasts, the mob, are a danger for all countries which share borders with France and Italy. These murdering and plundering hordes show no mercy. They will also destroy Rome and Paris, set alight by the mob, will burn like a torch. In any event, due to the war, large cities and towns will be destroyed more or less. Survival is only possible in the country and in small villages.

The first nuclear weapon will be used in Europe in the Mediterranean. Many nuclear bombs will be exploded high in the sky above the Adriatic Sea, from the North to the South. The consequences are, of course, major flooding in that area. Shock waves can be felt in Austria and Germany.

The nuclear attacks by the Russians in the Adriatic Sea and later in the North Sea, are meant solely for the destruction of enemy ships operating there. There will also be a war in the Balkan countries, from Albania to Bulgaria to Turkey. However, the Russians will lose the battles.

China will help Europe, indirectly and with great reluctance. Chinese troops will fight the Russians in Central Europe. On their way to Europe, the Chinese will con-quer South Russia, and their many, small tanks will be superior to the Russian tanks. The Russian troops will be defeated.

The European population is suspicious, but they do not hate the Chinese; they hate the Russians.

At first, the Chinese and Russians will fight each other with conventional weapons in Lower Austria and in the Czech Republic, north of the Danube. The front will be broken three times. Many, many people will die as a result of the tank battles, which will destroy the whole area. No stone will be left unturned in Lower Austria and in the Czech Republic.

A similar fate will be experienced by other nations worldwide. The USA and Canada will be devastated. Forget your emigration plans!

As the war progresses, Russian troops will invade Western Europe. The latter has no real resistance to offer against the Russians. The total defeat of Germany by the Russians is avoided only with the aid of Germany's space vehicle. It is able to remain suspended in space, and is equipped with a revolutionary engine, electromagnetic guns, and a machine that can fire lightning bolts. This space vehicle is superior to what the Russians have, and can destroy even the most modern missiles.

By now, half of Europe and half the world is a heap of rubble. Now the Americans decide to help Europe. Gigantic battles will take place with the most horrific weapon systems. At least, one nuclear battle will take place in the North Sea. All countries bordering the North Sea will be affected. Gigantic waves will flood England, Belgium, Holland, North Germany, and Denmark. The sea waves, caused by a Russian nuclear explosion in the North Sea, are more than 250 feet high. They spread quickly and grow even more. Their power is fierce, and they do not only destroy London but also large parts of Southern England.

Back to Central Europe. The Czech Republic is a neutral nation. Nevertheless, Russia will occupy her, and the nuclear battles will destroy the whole nation. Hell reigns in the western part of the Czech Republic. Nuclear and neutron bombs are used by the Russians and the Chinese in their first ecounter. The second battle is even worse. The Chinese are trying to encircle the Russian forces, which are trying to escape to the north. The vibration of the multiple nuclear explosions can be felt everywhere in Central Europe. Whole mountain ranges are removed and flattened, in order to defeat the enemy. One cannot describe the satanic brutality of the war. A sulphur-yellow glowing fire rises above the West of the Czech Republic; it is perhaps the result of the exploded neutron bombs. Then follows a short, powerful, white-yellow explosion which throws fire high into the sky. The fleeing Russians may have detonated their nuclear weapons stored in the Czech coalmines. This is the last explosion in the Czech Republic, for now the crust of the earth splits open. The first eruption high into the sky shows the Crucified Lord, animated, with His wounds. The world will shout: "There is a God!" Our Lord remains suspended in the sky, then slowly He takes on the form of a birch-tree.[this has a special meaning, as a prophecy was made in Germany centuries ago in connection with a birch-tree; Ed.]. Now tons and tons of lava, stones, and debris are ejected into the air covering areas more than 100km (63 miles) away from the center. The city of Prague will be covered completely by it, and nobody will be able to say in the future where Prague once stood.

Immediately after the earth crust splits open, the most gigantic earthquake in human history will shake the whole planet for a whole day. Nothing will remain standing on earth, but God will preserve some homes.

Immense quantities of poisonous gas are freed. It will rise into the atmosphere and biosphere and create three, and more, days of darkness. The air is poisoned for days, but winds will drive the poisonous clouds to the East.

However, the war is not yet over, although one is fighting now with moderate means. The Russians are now on the run. European countries form a new army made up of volunteers. The Russians are hated for this holocaust which they started. Discipline and moral are gone in the Russian forces. They are wiped out completely. Not one Russian will see his homeland again.

Russia collapses. The Communist leaders are being killed, and their historic guilt is now washed in the blood of millions of innocent dead people.

Survivors worldwide have nothing left. Of six billion people on earth, approximately 600 million will be chosen to survive. This is more than enogh for our devestated planet.

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A horrible scenario , aye ?


Yet I for one believe the future isn't written yet . .



It is interesting to note that many details from that 'sighting' are comprehensibly . .

If the sighting of the destruction of New York was a hint concerning 9 / 11 . .


Many other things are also plausible . .

I think the direction where our present could be directed towards is clearly visible . .



 
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In this case , the 'sighting' is from 1994 , by a man called Gottfried von Werdenberg ( living in Austria ) . .
What information do you have about this person?

How can we be sure that these prophecies were made in 1994?
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What information do you have about this person?
He was featured in this book . .


( The Third World War - a collection of different prophecies and sightings from various people )

Authored by German author Jan Van Helsing . . . . .


https://schauungen.de/Sonstiges/Prophezeiungsindex/ < - - - for those who read German . . . .

His prophecy is the first one mentioned . . .

Von Werdenberg also authored this book . . . .


What can be said about him personally ?

Among insiders he has a brilliant reputation , his books are published under pseudonym , he avoids public life . . . .

It should also be mentioned that his prophecy is the only one to date to give so much detail . . . .


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How can we be sure that these prophecies were made in 1994?
His book "Vision 2004 - the next 10 years" was published back then . . .
 
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What can be said about him personally ?

Among insiders he has a brilliant reputation , his books are published under pseudonym , he avoids public life . . . .

It should also be mentioned that his prophecy is the only one to date to give so much detail . . . .
That is, you don't know anything about him.



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His book "Vision 2004 - the next 10 years" was published back then . . .
So how should we consider the prophecies that you published?

How are the prophecies of 1994 or the prophecies of 2004?
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That is, you don't know anything about him.
Well , of course I haven't met him personally , heck , I wouldn't even know about him had he not been featured in the source above , yet , like I said , he is considered 'brilliant' by insiders of the scene . .

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So how should we consider the prophecies that you published?
I think it would be a plausible apolcalyptic scenario . . .

First of all , like I said in the original post , I think everybody can see where we are headed by examining the facts , yet I also professed my belief that we are the masters of our own fate . .
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How are the prophecies of 1994 or the prophecies of 2004?
You seem to have misunderstood that part . . . the book I mentioned was published in 1994 , giving 'sightings' until 2004 . . . .


And , I have to admit that I myself haven't read his book "Vision 2004". . .

I can only repeat myself though that he is considered extraordinary by insiders and it is even claimed that most of his sightings became reality. . .

Concerning the danger of a Third World War specifically . . . some of the other sightings I have given above. . .

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https://schauungen.de/Sonstiges/Prophezeiungsindex/ < - - - for those who read German . . . .
. . . make clear that it somehow seems to be mankind's choice though whether there will be war or not. . .

Sightings concerning World War 3 seem to predict a possible future . . . .



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Another book concerning this subject ( in German ) . . . .


Who is planning the 3. World War ?
An analysis from prophetic, military strategic and secret service point of view


Also , what should one think about this quote by V. I. Lenin?

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V. I. Lenin - The Soviet Union will pretend to fall , ensuring final victory !!
Lenin provided an answer many years ago when he wrote a famous little aside, which reads as follows: "As a result of my observations," noted Lenin, "I have concluded that the so-called cultured classes of Western Europe and America are incapable of comprehending the current situation and the real balance of forces; these classes should be regarded as deaf and dumb and treated accordingly."
In light of this, Lenin conceived of a special maneuver. He proposed that Communism might appear to lose control of the Soviet government, and Russia might swerve toward capitalism. "The deaf and dumb will believe it," he emphasized. "Telling the truth is a bourgeois superstition. On the contrary, it is the end that sanctifies the lie. While chasing profits in the Soviet market, the world's capitalists will close their eyes to reality and thus change into deaf and dumb blind men. They will give us credits that will help us to maintain Communist Parties in their countries and, by supplying us with essential materials, will rebuild the war industry we need for our future victorious attacks on our suppliers. In other words, they will be working toward their own suicide."
So the leader of the Communist Party USA can say openly, in plain view, what his party is doing. The deaf and dumb will not realize what is happening. The top Communist leadership is calling for "an incredible grassroots effort" by labor, women, youth immigrants and "racially oppressed people." These will be mobilized to "turn back rightwing extremism and increase the Democratic majority in both chambers in Congress." Nobody believes that the Communist Party USA is behind anything. It is hardly understood, at the same time, why it is Russia's "democratic" leaders haven't buried Lenin.


Communism on the March
Past Global Analysis - J. R. Nyquist "Communism on the March" 06/14/2010
 
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You seem to have misunderstood that part . . . the book I mentioned was published in 1994 , giving 'sightings' until 2004 . . .
On the Internet, there is no information about his prophecies, except those that you published here.

And on the basis of the fact that you published here, I can conclude that he is a worthless prophet because almost nothing of his prophecies has come true at the moment.
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On the Internet, there is no information about his prophecies, except those that you published here.
Maybe that's because you don't use the German search engine ?

I have found some stuff . .

And , like I said , he avoids public life , publicity . .

He is not a figure "out in the open" . .

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And on the basis of the fact that you published here, I can conclude that he is a worthless prophet because almost nothing of his prophecies has come true at the moment.
You haven't read all his sightings . . He made more predictions than this one . .

Concerning the text . .

1 ) One shouldn't make the mistake to take the dates 100 % seriously . . They were most likely speculation added to the text . .

Von Werdenberg said he "saw the future before his eyes like a movie" . .

And . . some things predicted here have already come true . .

9 / 11 ( listed as "The Destruction Of New York" in the text ) , a military conflict on Arab soil , the European refugee flood , the withdrawal of the American troops from Europe . .

Maybe WW3 really is a possible future . .

And . . I think everybody can see which direction we are going . .
 
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Maybe that's because you don't use the German search engine ?
I used German-language queries in Google.



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I have found some stuff . .
Will you share the links with us?



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You haven't read all his sightings . . He made more predictions than this one . .
I can draw conclusions only about what I know.



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Concerning the text . .

1 ) One shouldn't make the mistake to take the dates 100 % seriously . . They were most likely speculation added to the text . .

Von Werdenberg said he "saw the future before his eyes like a movie" . .
Similarly, we can justify most of the unfulfilled prophecies.



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And . . some things predicted here have already come true . .

9 / 11 ( listed as "The Destruction Of New York" in the text )
No detail in the prophecy does not coincide with what happened on September 11.

Moreover, these are events of different scale. The fall of two skyscrapers and the destruction of New York.

Do you think that in 1994 it was so difficult to predict the Arab attack on New York?

Then I remind you of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_W...Center_bombing



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a military conflict on Arab soil
There is always some armed conflict in the Middle East.

Can you say me the time in the second half of the 20th century when everything was quiet there?



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the European refugee flood
Do you mean these fragments?

"Shortly before the outbreak of WW3, many people from East Europe and South East Europe will pour into West Europe."

"Shortly before the outbreak of WW3, millions of people from the East and South East of Europe will flood West European nations."


First, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was obvious who will now influence the countries of Eastern Europe. Or maybe someone in 1994 believed that people from Eastern Europe would migrate to Africa?

Secondly, the migration crisis in Europe mainly began not because of the migration of people from Eastern Europe, but because of the migration of people from Africa and the Middle East.



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the withdrawal of the American troops from Europe . .
What allows you to talk about this as a fait accompli?



I believe that this text was written not to give prophecy, but as Russophobic propaganda. And the form of prophecy was simply used as the form of packaging to make the content of the Russophobic kernel of this message less obvious.
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@ Alex

There is only one fragment of your post I would like to go deeper into right now . .

You think the text spreads 'Russiophobia' . . I think one can be certain from the clientele of the people into this stuff ( prophecies concerning Europe , NWO investigators . .) that they are aware that Bolshevism is an NWO invention , not a Russian one . .




Maybe I'll go into other parts of your post too later but my time is short right now . .

Just wanted to get that out of the way for good . .

I might add that all along I had the suspicion that your scepticism concerning this stemmed from the fact that it doesn't put (((Russia))) in a good light ( (((Russia))) because the NWO uses Russia for Bolshevism ) . .
 
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Maybe I'll go into other parts of your post too later but my time is short right now . .
I'm no hurry.
And I'll wait when you read my post completely.
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Alex . .

I'm back . . At your service . .





Sorry but my wife had a doctor appointment earlier this day and I had to drive her . . .

Back and ready . . .

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I'm no hurry.
And I'll wait when you read my post completely.
I did read your post completely yet felt that the claim you made had to be done with first and foremost . . . .

For the record , why didn't you use the same post to take a stand concerning what I wrote ?

Well . .

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I used German-language queries in Google.
Not much about this man is online and I admit that his prophecy concerning World War 3 is pretty much among the most prominent subjects but I suppose one has to "search a little" Not every google search ends with the first page after all . . .


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Will you share the links with us?
http://www.ausmeinersicht.com/Der%20...wo%20nicht.htm

https://gloria.tv/article/VxFKMNZ9BzK44PjJm7tyTJkj7

For start . . But like I said , they are in German .

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I can draw conclusions only about what I know.
No problem . . .


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Similarly, we can justify most of the unfulfilled prophecies.
I think everybody who can see can see how close we would be to such a scenario and that it would not at all be impossible. .

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No detail in the prophecy does not coincide with what happened on September 11.

Moreover, these are events of different scale. The fall of two skyscrapers and the destruction of New York.

Do you think that in 1994 it was so difficult to predict the Arab attack on New York?

Then I remind you of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_W...Center_bombing
I think the similarities to 9 / 11 are over-obvious . . . .

Also , may I remind you that the text says "the rain of glowing fire can be understood as a warning that WW3 is near" and that "the same applies for the destruction of New York" ?

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There is always some armed conflict in the Middle East.

Can you say me the time in the second half of the 20th century when everything was quiet there?
In the text it was meant that the Americans would lead a war on Arabian soil . . .




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Do you mean these fragments?

"Shortly before the outbreak of WW3, many people from East Europe and South East Europe will pour into West Europe."

"Shortly before the outbreak of WW3, millions of people from the East and South East of Europe will flood West European nations."


First, after the collapse of the Soviet Union, it was obvious who will now influence the countries of Eastern Europe. Or maybe someone in 1994 believed that people from Eastern Europe would migrate to Africa?

Secondly, the migration crisis in Europe mainly began not because of the migration of people from Eastern Europe, but because of the migration of people from Africa and the Middle East.
No beef , but you seem to take every opportunity to discredit the text . . . . . Yes , not every detail may be plausible but at the core I believe it is a possibilty . . .

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What allows you to talk about this as a fait accompli?



I believe that this text was written not to give prophecy, but as Russophobic propaganda. And the form of prophecy was simply used as the form of packaging to make the content of the Russophobic kernel of this message less obvious.
I already took a stand concerning that above . . .
 
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I think one can be certain from the clientele of the people into this stuff ( prophecies concerning Europe , NWO investigators . .) that they are aware that Bolshevism is an NWO invention , not a Russian one . .
Most people aren't aware that the Bolshevik Revolution was financed by American jews, and Wall Street. It also isn't a coincidence that it happened within a few year window of the establishment of the US Federal Reserve.

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I might add that all along I had the suspicion that your scepticism concerning this stemmed from the fact that it doesn't put (((Russia))) in a good light ( (((Russia))) because the NWO uses Russia for Bolshevism ) . .
The USA has done more for Bolshevism, than Russia ever could in the jew's wildest dreams.

At the very core of American-Boomer-Conservative propaganda is evil, Communist, Socialist Russia. Decades after the USSR ended, they don't care about the facts here. And the (((media))) insists on pushing that narrative. And this is part of why Russophobia is tiresome to many of us here. It's all based on lies, or hyperbole that's taken literally by most Americans.
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Most people aren't aware that the Bolshevik Revolution was financed by American jews, and Wall Street.

Yes . . . most conspiracy investigators agree that the main source of finance for the Bolshevik revolution were the jews Jacob Schiff and Max Warburg . . . .

. . as was the house of Rothschild . . .




"Trotsky's rebels" , as the Bolsheviks were named back then ( mostly jews from New York's West End . .) were trained on Jacob Schiff's private estate . . .

Trotsky was one of the main associates of Schiff . . .


Yes , Bolshevism was a jewish plot . .

Financed by jew bankers and perpetrated by jews . . .

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It also isn't a coincidence that it happened within a few year window of the establishment of the US Federal Reserve.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_American_Dream_(film)

The American FED ( Federal Reserve Bank ) was the first private bank in the history of the United States . .

It was established for money control and all central banks of the world today are modeled similar . .

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The USA has done more for Bolshevism, than Russia ever could in the jew's wildest dreams.
I agree . . For example the USA , among other Western powers , smashed Bolshevism's enemies during World War 2 . .


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At the very core of American-Boomer-Conservative propaganda is evil, Communist, Socialist Russia. Decades after the USSR ended, they don't care about the facts here. And the (((media))) insists on pushing that narrative. And this is part of why Russophobia is tiresome to many of us here. It's all based on lies, or hyperbole that's taken literally by most Americans.
 
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For the record , why didn't you use the same post to take a stand concerning what I wrote ?
Because partial reading of posts leads to their partial understanding by a reader.



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Not much about this man is online and I admit that his prophecy concerning World War 3 is pretty much among the most prominent subjects but I suppose one has to "search a little" Not every google search ends with the first page after all . . .

http://www.ausmeinersicht.com/Der%20...wo%20nicht.htm

https://gloria.tv/article/VxFKMNZ9BzK44PjJm7tyTJkj7

For start . . But like I said , they are in German .
I've seen these pages.

In the first link there are only pictures from the book that show safe places in Switzerland and Germany during the Third World War.



In the second link there is only the same thing that you brought in this topic, but in German.

Both of these pages do not provide any additional information.



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I think everybody who can see can see how close we would be to such a scenario and that it would not at all be impossible. .
When we were close to "the Russian occupation of Austria"?



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I think the similarities to 9 / 11 are over-obvious . . . .
What is obvious to you?
That all the incorrectly predicted details of the event as a result give an extremely accurate prediction



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Also , may I remind you that the text says "the rain of glowing fire can be understood as a warning that WW3 is near" and that "the same applies for the destruction of New York" ?
And for what purpose do you remind me of this?
The destruction of New York which is predicted in the prophecy did not happen.
What really happened on September 11 does not coincide in any detail with the prophecy.



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In the text it was meant that the Americans would lead a war on Arabian soil . . .
It is very difficult to find a point on the world map where once a decade American military operations would not be carried out.



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No beef , but you seem to take every opportunity to discredit the text . . . . . Yes , not every detail may be plausible but at the core I believe it is a possibilty . . .
The text discredits itself.
Here no detail which reliably coincides with what happened.



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I already took a stand concerning that above . . .
Where?



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You think the text spreads 'Russiophobia' . .
Do you think that it spreads Russophilia?



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I think one can be certain from the clientele of the people into this stuff ( prophecies concerning Europe , NWO investigators . .) that they are aware that Bolshevism is an NWO invention , not a Russian one . .
I did not understand the meaning of this sentence. Can you formulate the same in another form?



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I might add that all along I had the suspicion that your scepticism concerning this stemmed from the fact that it doesn't put (((Russia))) in a good light ( (((Russia))) because the NWO uses Russia for Bolshevism ) . .
My skepticism is directly related to the fact that nothing in the prophecy does not coincide with what is happening in the world.

Imagine how I could criticize the prophecy if it were written in it that two planes crashed into two skyscrapers in New York.
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Because partial reading of posts leads to their partial understanding by a reader.
I did read your full post ( as I've said before ) but only wanted to get your point about supposed (((Russiophobia))) out of the way . . . .

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I've seen these pages.

In the first link there are only pictures from the book that show safe places in Switzerland and Germany during the Third World War.



In the second link there is only the same thing that you brought in this topic, but in German.

Both of these pages do not provide any additional information.
To reapeat myself , most of the pages dealing with him are about his prophecy concerning WW3 . . . .

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When we were close to "the Russian occupation of Austria"?
I'm going to make this perfectly clear . . . .

The NWO is after the world reign ( by any means I might add . .). . . They once established Bolshevism in Russia, why shouldn't they try to do it again?

They originally ( in the 1910s ) chose Russia as a target for Bolshevism because , among other things , it was the biggest country in the world ( to give the rest of the reasons , also because the Czar was a mortal enemy to the jews and because of all the precious natural resources in Russia . . .) . . .

Are you familiar with the expression "history repeating" ?

The Bolshevik advance in World War 2 . . . .


The alleged advance in World War 3 . . . .


"This time the world . ."




Please do not take the mentioning of Russia too personal . . . .

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What is obvious to you?
That all the incorrectly predicted details of the event as a result give an extremely accurate prediction
That all events occuring right now could lead to such a scenario . . .

Our nations are flooded with immigrants , our economy is weak . . I think all the NWO needs is one little step ( as it looks right now . .) . . . .

The political "Left" is strong in some countries in Europe . . .

They will claim to offer solutions . . .

In the end there will be a Bolshevik takeover . . Simple . . .


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And for what purpose do you remind me of this?
The destruction of New York which is predicted in the prophecy did not happen.
What really happened on September 11 does not coincide in any detail with the prophecy.
May I also remind you that the official version of 9 / 11 is widely disbelieved ?

If it really happened the way the media says it did is widely disputed . . .


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It is very difficult to find a point on the world map where once a decade American military operations would not be carried out.
While we're at this subject , should it be the plan of the NWO to kind of trick the West ( i. e. concentrate the US military in the Middle East so they will be 'busy' and later unable to 'assist' Europe ) , they would be on agood road to . . .


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The text discredits itself.
Here no detail which reliably coincides with what happened.
If that's your opinion . . .

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Where?
In my post #10 concerning supposed 'Russiophobia' . . .

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Do you think that it spreads Russophilia?
People need to realise that the push for Bolshevism isn't a (((Russian))) phenomenon but one of the NWO . . .

I myself would welcome it if people stopped blaming Russians for Bolshevism but . .


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I did not understand the meaning of this sentence. Can you formulate the same in another form?
I meant to say that the people who generally are into this stuff ( prophecies concerning Europe's future , NWO investiagtors ) are already aware of the fact that the NWO is behind Bolshevism and not (((Russians))) as such . . . . .

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My skepticism is directly related to the fact that nothing in the prophecy does not coincide with what is happening in the world.

Imagine how I could criticize the prophecy if it were written in it that two planes crashed into two skyscrapers in New York.
I have two objections concerning that . . After all , even people who are said to have insight into future events can still be called 'human' and as such , they may make mistakes , probably even while writing stuff down or speculating about dates . . .

Second , concerning your example of 9 / 11 , wouldn't it be thought-provoking that practically all details listed as "The Destruction Of New York" in the text point to the 9 / 11 attacks yet no "plane crashing into the tower" is mentioned ?

Maybe the offical version really isn't true . . . Think about it . . . .

Sometimes the truth only becomes obvious after a second glance . . .
 
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I'm not interested in talking to a man who wants to get away from obvious things at all costs.
If that's your choice of words and your decision , so be it . . . .

I hope , though , your decision will be limited to this thread . .

We always got along fine in other threads . . .

Concerning the possibility of a 'World War 3 vision' , I say this . . .

"There are more things between Heaven and Earth than dreamt of in your philosophy . . ."

Shakespeare , Hamlet

But that's up the the reader to decide . .

The NWO , however , has an agenda . .

It wouldn't surprise me at all if they chose Bolshevism . .

Look no further than their "Protocols" . .

While we're at this subject , in a broadcast of "American Dissident Voices" the late Dr. Pierce tried to imagine what the Protocols would sound like if they were to be written at the date of the broadcast ( 1999 ) . . . .

 
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If that's your choice of words and your decision ,
My decision is not causeless. It appeared in response to your decision to play the game "I pretend to be a fool."
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My decision is not causeless.
I didn't imply that . .

We all have different perceptions . .

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It appeared in response to your decision to play the game "I pretend to be a fool."
Wasn't my intention at all. .

I can decide what is plausible to me and what isn't. .

But if you wish to cut this particular debate , no beef . .

I can accept other opinons . .

'Que sera sera . . ' - 'Whatever will be will be . . the future's not ours to see . .' . . .

Well , at least not up to everbody . .


 
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