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Archeologists believe that the Ainu migrated to the Northern parts of Japan at around the same time that the original Jōmon (presumably originating from southeast asia) migrated to the southern parts of Japan. Jōmon artifacts are found all throughout Japan, including on the northern island of Hokkaido, so likely there was some ethnic admixture. Later, it is believed, there was gradual migration of peoples from China through the Korean peninsula to Japan, who completely interbred with the Jōmon peoples already there. However, this later wave of migration seems to have made the greatest contribution to the main island of Honshu. The modern-day Japanese residing in the smaller southern islands Kyūshū and Okinawa likely are more representative of the previous Jōmon peoples. This is suggested by certain DNA markers, and by the fact they have a slightly darker skin complexion than mainland Japanese. While there was likely some genetic exchange before then, the Ainu people remained a distinct people on the island of Hokkaido and the northernmost parts of Honshū up into the feudal era, when the mainland Japanese began settling northward. During the feudal era, the Ainu were subjugated. Since they were known to be good warriors, many were invited to fight for local Lords in Honshū, and so many Samurai family lines have large proportions of Ainu blood. It is a mystery where exactly the Ainu came from, but it is interesting to speculate. The modern-day Siberians lack the Caucasian-like physical features of the Ainu, so one wonders whether there was a later migration that erased all traces of Ainu-like people that may have inhabited the northeastern part of Russia before then. And from what part of Europe, and at what time stage did the Ainu leave? Did they branch off from the original Caucasians? Or were they most closely related to the Uralic people (who are the descendants of the original Finns, Laplanders, and Hungarians) ? Yes, there is some suppression going on in the fields of history and anthropology in universities. But I doubt the original Japanese Ainu were actually what most would consider to be "white". They likely would have mixed to some extent with the asians along the way before they ever reached Japan. |
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June 15th, 2013 | #23 | |
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Apparently I am not the first to notice similarities:
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June 21st, 2013 | #25 |
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European R1b is dominated by R-M269. The frequency is about 71% in Scotland, 70% in Spain, 60% in France and 33% in Germany. In south-eastern England the frequency of this clade is about 70%; in parts of the rest of north and western England, Spain, Portugal, Wales and Ireland, it is as high as 90%; and in parts of north-western Ireland it reaches 98%.
It has been found at generally low frequencies throughout central Eurasia, but with relatively high frequency among Bashkirs of the Perm Region (84.0%). This marker is also present in China and India at frequencies of less than one percent. Japan at 0.0%. |
June 21st, 2013 | #26 |
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Lack of a genetic marker does not necessarily imply there is no relation. There is something called the Bottleneck effect. If the Japanese have European descendants, at some point in time the lineage may have been very small population size, where no individuals existed with the particular marker to pass it on.
In Sweden the incidence of this maker is less than 30%. |
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