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Let's Support Joe Owens
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I am all for local community campaigning but independent candidates, unless they are very well known and liked, do poorly in elections compared to someone standing for a political party.
I have said this before on here and on Stormfront. Joe Owens, or any other nationalist, needs to campaign and stand in elections as part of an organisation if only to give the impression of something big as opposed to something small like when standing as an independent. It's a simple marketing strategy. People like to follow something that is perceived to be followed by many others. I did this in Bradford campaigning alone to give the impression I wasn't a one man band operation but a large community organisation. If I was Joe Owens I would register the name Liverpool Together or Liverpool First and campaign and stand in elections under that name with the goal of taking over Liverpool council and getting an MP elected. If Liverpool First took off, other nationalists in other regions may decide to replicate it with their own version with the goal of winning power in their region. Another advantage is that despite the demographics in multi-cultural areas where nationalists can't get candidates elected because of the block vote tactics used particularly by Asians, Liverpool First, because it doesn't use traditional right wing images and names, could, with a bit of marketing nuance, win enough votes to get elected. Last edited by Gerry Fable; September 28th, 2018 at 11:08 AM. |
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From posting envelopes to Jews laced with razor blades, to boasting about his arrests for suspected murder, to boasting of selling-on drugs he had confiscated when working as a bouncer etc, etc.... If Owens had any genuine nous about him, he'd work in the background supporting those who might benefit from whatever support he may have to give them...no matter how dubious that support may be. In truth, he should just fuck off. |
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Fuck off aNDY, you rat faced jew lover.
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Ideally Joe Owens would have to take a behind the scenes role for the reasons you highlighted. Although my post specified Liverpool, mainly because the thread is about Liverpool and Joe Owens, I was hoping, even if I am being a little optimistic, others will take note and try it out in their community. |
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Research: Owens has stated his first action was to go door to door with a clipboard and find out what nrighbourhood problems were troubling the locals. He stated after the election that he had not factored into his research more recent arrivals (Slavs?). Without a candid de-brief from him we have to speculate that he carried out his door to door. No doubt that on the doorstep every scouser agreed with him and many of the Slavs as well raised the same issues: Fly tipping, non-whites,prostitutes,drugs, associated vice and intimidation by idle gangs of aliens. That as a given why didn't he win ? Liverpool City Council Municipal Elections 2016: 3rd May 2018 Kensington and Fairfield Registered electors 9,347 Turnout / votes cast 2,335 = 24.98% Sue Walker won the seat with 1,768 = 76.08% Identifying the concerns of locals is not enough he should first invest in a copy of the electoral register for Kensington and Fairfield ward and check he is not just being told what he wants to hear. Is he checking those who express support are eligible to vote in the first place sounds obvious but is he doing it ? More electors did not vote than he needed to win three times over. He needs to make sure anyone he spends time and energy on is actually registered to vote in the first place. Then make them a regular on his round of canvassing. He needs to research his opponents what are the councillors doing and by extension the labour party doing for scousers (and Slavs) ? Does the elected councillor live in the constituency ? He doesn't so he can never use that important point when appealing to electors Facetious and self evidently "racist" references to "Kenya" instead of Kensington and Fairfield is not "smart" it is stupid and looks like system direction. Back in the day scousers called it "Kenny" and may still do so identifying with your target electors normal terminology is important. Omitting Fairfield is self defeating as it is mainly in the Fairfield portion of the constituency that the Albanians and Africans are operating. The parliamentary constituency for the borough is Liverpool, Wavertree which happens to be the seat of prominent zionist jewess Berger. This was the seat of anti-fascist activist Silverman for decades and is regard as a jews safe seat. It may be a coincidence that a Bnp member has selected a jew fiefdom to make a comeback in legitimate politics but it looks like system direction in a city with plenty of constituencies including his own filled with robust normal registered scousers capable of voting for an enthusiastic patriotic candidate. Finally and this could be an important issue for Owens to my knowledge two current "activist nationalists" Mark Cotterill and Paul Golding gave up and walked away from public office once elected, as did Arnold Leese back in the day. The Bnp had over 100 councillors and it didn't seem to make any difference more recently UKIP had over 400 councillors and it did not seem to make any difference. In summation: Why not? It is not as if nationalists are doing anything else useful so re-born as local community leaders might stop them wasting time lamenting over Tommy Robinson stealing their demographic. Regular contact with legitimate electors might tell them something about their nation and even themselves.
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It's a pity the media (which dictates how candidates are presented to voters) don't follow your example.
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And people wonder why we don't get anywhere.
I've deleted my comments to this thread. Owens' background is widely known in Liverpool. That's not what this thread was about. I explicitly stated that this was about Owens' methods. I am not interested one way or the other in Owens as a person or his background - it's irrelevant. The only reason somebody would make an issue of it would be to discredit him - out of bitterness, narcissism, personal dislike for Owens, or because they are working for the enemy, or some combination of these. I am embarrassed by this thread and I apologise to Joe Owens. I will not make the mistake of commenting on this forum again. I will not reply to any further messages. |
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I entered this thread in reply to Gerry Fable, not you...
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Unfortunately (for you) you weren't able to delete the title of this thread which remains for all to see...."Let's support Joe Owens" That was the STATED purpose of this thread and it remains so despite your craven efforts to run away from your monumental fuck-up! Last edited by Henry.; October 4th, 2018 at 04:25 AM. |
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