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Jews and Italians -- what's the nature of their relationship?
The porn industry is run by jews -- and Italians. The second most prominent ethnic group in the Hollywood film industry after jews is Italians. The Italian mafia and jewish mob seem to have had a symbiotic relationship over the years.
Anti-Semitism never caught on in Italy the way it did in Germany and elsewhere in the pre-WWII years. Why are jews and Italians so cozy with each other? I've seen lots of threads on VNNF asking whether Italians are white, but I've never seen this topic come up. Maybe it's time this elephant in the living room was discussed.
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There are white Italians and there are non-white Italians.
I don't think we can paint all Italians with the same brush. But it is a fact, the swarthy Italians have Semitic ancestry. You can just see it by looking at them. I've heard Italian WN's say that southern Italians are less white than Northern Italians. |
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Northern Italy still has a semblance of the original Italian blood that brought Rome and Italy itself to power. But Southern Italy and Rome itself are just mixed blood muds in WN terms. |
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Some say that Africa starts in Naples.
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The "are Italians white?" topic has been beaten to death on these forums.
I'm interested in why jews don't seem to mind sharing some of their power with Italians. Looking at Hollywood, pornography, and organized crime, it's like Italian-Americans are the jews' faithful sidekicks or something. It's not my intent to paint all Italians with the same brush. Any well-intentioned person of Italian descent should be as eager to explore this topic as I am, rather than get defensive about it.
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jews have had an "up and down" relationship with Italians. From the empire days of Rome to Fascist Italy. A bit of the jewish history in Italy: 224 C.E. Italy- Forced Conversion 357 C.E. Italy- Property Confiscation 379 C.E. Milan- Synagogue Burning 855 C.E. Italy- Expulsion 945 C.E. Venice- Ban on Sea Travel 1021 C.E. Rome- Jews Burned Alive 1215 C.E. Rome- Lateran Council of Rome decrees that Jews must wear the “badge of shame” in all Christian countries. 1292 C.E. Italy- Forced conversions & expulsion of the Italian Jewish community. 1415 C.E. Rome- Talmud Confiscated So we see a History, much like everywhere else the jew has been. In regards to pre WW2 Italy. Actually Germany is the exception, not Italy. One of the core tenets of Fascism is unity, and this was typically achieved through "Nationalism" not "Racialism", As Mussolini stated "race was 95% feeling" so you see there was not a strong grasp of race. NS i.e. German Fascism was the first to bring forth the racial laws, so they are unique in that aspect, most of the other Fascist movements stuck with "Nationalism". Italy did not adopt anti-jew policy until urged on by Hitler, and then J. Evola was brought on as an adviser on race to Mussolini. There was even a little conflict between the Italian jews before the anti-jew policies, pro-fascist jews vs. anti-fascist jews. So as you see, its a complex History, but by no means have they been ignorant to the jews throughout History, or more of a "friend" to jews than most other Nations. As far as porn and movies, I guess there could be a few reasons for both, considering the many aspects of Italian peoples.
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It's believed the mafia basically controlled the porn industry until the 80's when the industry changed and came out with VHS tapes. I think it was the Colombo family in NYC who financed the first big porno "Deep Throat," they supposedly made millions off of it over the years. Even a few years ago some mafia guys in NYC were running online porn sites, and over charging customers. I don't think there is a special relationship, Jews will work with anyone when money can be made. Now days the Jews don't have to work with anyone, because they've legalized the illegal rackets, they control the financial/banking industry and they have a big part in the pharmaceutical industry, most drug addicts today are on prescription drugs and not "street" drugs like coke or heroin. There isn't much money left to be made in the criminal world now days, you basically have the non Jews fighting over the scraps.
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As far as anti-semitism goes - the Sephardic Jews and the "white" Italians look the same so it would be harder to notice any differences. Are Italians white? Another way of asking this same question is if the ancient Romans were as white as present day Nords? If you look at the statues and figurines of the early Romans they depict very Nordic looking features minus the long hair and long beards. If you visit present day Italy you see people that resemble some sort of hybrid between northern Europeans and Arabs with over half of these people looking like full blooded Bedouins. But if I even mentioned anything like this on Stormfront my response would be immediately deleted. Even d.n.a. evidence proves that there's been significant admixture between the peoples of southern Europe and Arabia. http://www.white-history.com/hh.htm Quote:
People Like Miss Calabria are rare nowadays. For the most part this is what most southern Europeans look like. These people are "white",huh? Here's pics of Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem. This is NOT what the Romans of Italia and Hispanolia looked like. Yet they're considered "white". Hmmmmmmmmmm http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...elope_Cruz.jpg http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...02_468x420.jpg Here's pictures of Arabs. Do they look any different than those southern Europeans? Here's a young Arabian woman. Here's another Arabic woman. She's "whiter" than many of the southern Europeans I've encountered. http://www.gixmi.com/wp-content/uplo.../arab-girl.jpg This chick looks whiter than Penelope Cruz. Yet she's Arabic. Hmmmmmmmm The Romans looked more like this. http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/i/...8/P1100337.jpg http://www.stcolmcilles.org/pupil%20...sar_statue.jpg http://www.hadrians.com/images/graph...drian_bust.jpg http://ed101.bu.edu/StudentDoc/curre...CaesarHead.jpg Last edited by balancedben; July 13th, 2010 at 07:43 PM. Reason: spelling and content |
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Yet another thread where babbling posters dive into what they know best: An "who is white" thread.
Thread starter asked to avoid that topic because it, and every other "who is white" topic has been beat to death, but since lemmings only know how to walk off cliffs, why should anyone expect something different?
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those southern europeans looked white to you?
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The pictures you used, no, but anyways that is not the topic. The TS was just vocalizing his observation and asking what others thought when it came to jews and Italians.
There is a ass-load of threads that go back and forth over who is white? What is white? etc...etc.. And to boot, he specifically asked to avoid that topic here, we should not be so self-centered that we can't respect someones request.
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Could it just be geographical closeness? I know a lot of other Europeans (Celtic/Nordic types) arrived earlier and spread into the South, Midwest, Northwest, etc. But Jews and Italians, at least in the US, are concentrated in the Northeast. They share neighborhoods and the like, and their cultures blended in together. I'm not sure how it is in Europe.
Just a thought. It's not really fair to post pictures of non-white looking people as Italian, since there's non-whites in all countries. When I think of Italian I think of Mediterranean subraces, which are white to me. Those people are not Med, they're mixed with non-white...which a lot of Italy is. |
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I forgot to add that the Roman Empire was present in the middle east. This is when Jews started emigrating to Europe. They probably migrated to Italy first and then started spreading throughout the rest of Europe.
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What proof do you have about Italians in the porn industry and Hollywood?
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LOL! Good question. Here we are pondering this issue and have not even seen any support to the claim that Italians are 2nd to jews in porn and hollywood.
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do these italian americans look white to you? they don't to me. in fact 3 out of 4 of them look like full blown arabs. anyhow, that's all i need to say. i was asked not to mention the topic again by Eric Wright and i don't wanna get my account deleted. i like this site and i like being amongst fellow white nationalists even if it's only a virtual sense. |
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You have posted pics of gypsys.
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