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Old July 13th, 2010 #1
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The porn industry is run by jews -- and Italians. The second most prominent ethnic group in the Hollywood film industry after jews is Italians. The Italian mafia and jewish mob seem to have had a symbiotic relationship over the years.

Anti-Semitism never caught on in Italy the way it did in Germany and elsewhere in the pre-WWII years.

Why are jews and Italians so cozy with each other?

I've seen lots of threads on VNNF asking whether Italians are white, but I've never seen this topic come up. Maybe it's time this elephant in the living room was discussed.
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Old July 13th, 2010 #2
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There are white Italians and there are non-white Italians.
I don't think we can paint all Italians with the same brush.

But it is a fact, the swarthy Italians have Semitic ancestry. You can just see it by looking at them.

I've heard Italian WN's say that southern Italians are less white than Northern Italians.
 
Old July 13th, 2010 #3
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There are white Italians and there are non-white Italians.
I don't think we can paint all Italians with the same brush.

But it is a fact, the swarthy Italians have Semitic ancestry. You can just see it by looking at them.

I've heard Italian WN's say that southern Italians are less white than Northern Italians.
This goes all the way back to the Roman Empire. Later in the Empire's history after Christianity started taking hold the population of Rome and Southern Italy was becoming heavily mesceginated from all the black, arabic, persian gladiators and slaves that the Hebrews were importing into Rome and Southern Italy.
Northern Italy still has a semblance of the original Italian blood that brought Rome and Italy itself to power. But Southern Italy and Rome itself are just mixed blood muds in WN terms.
 
Old July 13th, 2010 #4
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Old July 13th, 2010 #5
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The "are Italians white?" topic has been beaten to death on these forums.

I'm interested in why jews don't seem to mind sharing some of their power with Italians. Looking at Hollywood, pornography, and organized crime, it's like Italian-Americans are the jews' faithful sidekicks or something.

It's not my intent to paint all Italians with the same brush. Any well-intentioned person of Italian descent should be as eager to explore this topic as I am, rather than get defensive about it.
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The porn industry is run by jews -- and Italians. The second most prominent ethnic group in the Hollywood film industry after jews is Italians. The Italian mafia and jewish mob seem to have had a symbiotic relationship over the years.

Anti-Semitism never caught on in Italy the way it did in Germany and elsewhere in the pre-WWII years.

Why are jews and Italians so cozy with each other?

I've seen lots of threads on VNNF asking whether Italians are white, but I've never seen this topic come up. Maybe it's time this elephant in the living room was discussed.
Well, its a complex answer that is not as simple as black and white.
jews have had an "up and down" relationship with Italians. From the empire days of Rome to Fascist Italy.

A bit of the jewish history in Italy:
224 C.E. Italy- Forced Conversion
357 C.E. Italy- Property Confiscation
379 C.E. Milan- Synagogue Burning
855 C.E. Italy- Expulsion
945 C.E. Venice- Ban on Sea Travel
1021 C.E. Rome- Jews Burned Alive
1215 C.E. Rome- Lateran Council of Rome decrees that Jews must wear the “badge of shame” in all Christian countries.
1292 C.E. Italy- Forced conversions & expulsion of the Italian Jewish community.
1415 C.E. Rome- Talmud Confiscated

So we see a History, much like everywhere else the jew has been.
In regards to pre WW2 Italy. Actually Germany is the exception, not Italy.
One of the core tenets of Fascism is unity, and this was typically achieved through "Nationalism" not "Racialism", As Mussolini stated "race was 95% feeling" so you see there was not a strong grasp of race. NS i.e. German Fascism was the first to bring forth the racial laws, so they are unique in that aspect, most of the other Fascist movements stuck with "Nationalism".

Italy did not adopt anti-jew policy until urged on by Hitler, and then J. Evola was brought on as an adviser on race to Mussolini. There was even a little conflict between the Italian jews before the anti-jew policies, pro-fascist jews vs. anti-fascist jews.

So as you see, its a complex History, but by no means have they been ignorant to the jews throughout History, or more of a "friend" to jews than most other Nations.

As far as porn and movies, I guess there could be a few reasons for both, considering the many aspects of Italian peoples.
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Old July 13th, 2010 #7
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It's believed the mafia basically controlled the porn industry until the 80's when the industry changed and came out with VHS tapes. I think it was the Colombo family in NYC who financed the first big porno "Deep Throat," they supposedly made millions off of it over the years. Even a few years ago some mafia guys in NYC were running online porn sites, and over charging customers. I don't think there is a special relationship, Jews will work with anyone when money can be made. Now days the Jews don't have to work with anyone, because they've legalized the illegal rackets, they control the financial/banking industry and they have a big part in the pharmaceutical industry, most drug addicts today are on prescription drugs and not "street" drugs like coke or heroin. There isn't much money left to be made in the criminal world now days, you basically have the non Jews fighting over the scraps.
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The porn industry is run by jews -- and Italians. The second most prominent ethnic group in the Hollywood film industry after jews is Italians. The Italian mafia and jewish mob seem to have had a symbiotic relationship over the years.

Anti-Semitism never caught on in Italy the way it did in Germany and elsewhere in the pre-WWII years.

Why are Jews and Italians so cozy with each other?

I've seen lots of threads on VNNF asking whether Italians are white, but I've never seen this topic come up. Maybe it's time this elephant in the living room was discussed.
How many of those "Italians" are really Jews who's family immigrated here from Italy a hundred or so years ago?

As far as anti-semitism goes - the Sephardic Jews and the "white" Italians look the same so it would be harder to notice any differences.

Are Italians white? Another way of asking this same question is if the ancient Romans were as white as present day Nords?

If you look at the statues and figurines of the early Romans they depict very Nordic looking features minus the long hair and long beards. If you visit present day Italy you see people that resemble some sort of hybrid between northern Europeans and Arabs with over half of these people looking like full blooded Bedouins. But if I even mentioned anything like this on Stormfront my response would be immediately deleted. Even d.n.a. evidence proves that there's been significant admixture between the peoples of southern Europe and Arabia.

http://www.white-history.com/hh.htm

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This goes all the way back to the Roman Empire. Later in the Empire's history after Christianity started taking hold the population of Rome and Southern Italy was becoming heavily mesceginated from all the black, arabic, persian gladiators and slaves that the Hebrews were importing into Rome and Southern Italy.
Northern Italy still has a semblance of the original Italian blood that brought Rome and Italy itself to power. But Southern Italy and Rome itself are just mixed blood muds in WN terms.
Christianity has been one of the biggest excuses to "justify" race mixing. It's a shame what southern Italy has become. They're a mere shadow of their former selves. These people should be in Arabia and not in Europe. They're not white anymore. Even northern Italians are barely "white".



People Like Miss Calabria are rare nowadays. For the most part this is what most southern Europeans look like.











These people are "white",huh?

Here's pics of Penelope Cruz and Javier Bardem. This is NOT what the Romans of Italia and Hispanolia looked like. Yet they're considered "white". Hmmmmmmmmmm

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...elope_Cruz.jpg

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...02_468x420.jpg

Here's pictures of Arabs. Do they look any different than those southern Europeans?





Here's a young Arabian woman.



Here's another Arabic woman. She's "whiter" than many of the southern Europeans I've encountered.

http://www.gixmi.com/wp-content/uplo.../arab-girl.jpg

This chick looks whiter than Penelope Cruz. Yet she's Arabic. Hmmmmmmmm



The Romans looked more like this.

http://www.newyorksocialdiary.com/i/...8/P1100337.jpg

http://www.stcolmcilles.org/pupil%20...sar_statue.jpg

http://www.hadrians.com/images/graph...drian_bust.jpg

http://ed101.bu.edu/StudentDoc/curre...CaesarHead.jpg


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Yet another thread where babbling posters dive into what they know best: An "who is white" thread.
Thread starter asked to avoid that topic because it, and every other "who is white" topic has been beat to death, but since lemmings only know how to walk off cliffs, why should anyone expect something different?
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those southern europeans looked white to you?
 
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those southern europeans looked white to you?
The pictures you used, no, but anyways that is not the topic. The TS was just vocalizing his observation and asking what others thought when it came to jews and Italians.
There is a ass-load of threads that go back and forth over who is white? What is white? etc...etc..

And to boot, he specifically asked to avoid that topic here, we should not be so self-centered that we can't respect someones request.
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Could it just be geographical closeness? I know a lot of other Europeans (Celtic/Nordic types) arrived earlier and spread into the South, Midwest, Northwest, etc. But Jews and Italians, at least in the US, are concentrated in the Northeast. They share neighborhoods and the like, and their cultures blended in together. I'm not sure how it is in Europe.

Just a thought.

It's not really fair to post pictures of non-white looking people as Italian, since there's non-whites in all countries. When I think of Italian I think of Mediterranean subraces, which are white to me. Those people are not Med, they're mixed with non-white...which a lot of Italy is.
 
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I forgot to add that the Roman Empire was present in the middle east. This is when Jews started emigrating to Europe. They probably migrated to Italy first and then started spreading throughout the rest of Europe.
 
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I'm interested in why jews don't seem to mind sharing some of their power with Italians. Looking at Hollywood, pornography, and organized crime, it's like Italian-Americans are the jews' faithful sidekicks or something.
What proof do you have about Italians in the porn industry and Hollywood?
 
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History of jews in Italy :
Jews_in_Italy Jews_in_Italy


History of jews in Malta :
History_of_the_Jews_in_Malta History_of_the_Jews_in_Malta


sylvester stallone's mom (jewish/ italian)
 
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What proof do you have about Italians in the porn industry and Hollywood?
LOL! Good question. Here we are pondering this issue and have not even seen any support to the claim that Italians are 2nd to jews in porn and hollywood.
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The pictures you used, no, but anyways that is not the topic. The TS was just vocalizing his observation and asking what others thought when it came to jews and Italians.
There is a ass-load of threads that go back and forth over who is white? What is white? etc...etc..

And to boot, he specifically asked to avoid that topic here, we should not be so self-centered that we can't respect someones request.
i understand. i'm new to vnn forum. thanks for the heads up. i guess there's no sense beating a dead horse. from hence forth i'll refrain from bringing this up when on the threads and limit it to private conversations via email and such.

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LOL! Good question. Here we are pondering this issue and have not even seen any support to the claim that Italians are 2nd to jews in porn and hollywood.
there's all races involved in the porn industry BUT the jews run the show. they control pretty much all of hollywood too.

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History of jews in Italy :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_in_Italy


History of jews in Malta :
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sylvester stallone's mom (jewish/ italian)
i didn't know that stallone was part kike. that sucks.

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Could it just be geographical closeness? I know a lot of other Europeans (Celtic/Nordic types) arrived earlier and spread into the South, Midwest, Northwest, etc. But Jews and Italians, at least in the US, are concentrated in the Northeast. They share neighborhoods and the like, and their cultures blended in together. I'm not sure how it is in Europe.

Just a thought.

It's not really fair to post pictures of non-white looking people as Italian, since there's non-whites in all countries. When I think of Italian I think of Mediterranean subraces, which are white to me. Those people are not Med, they're mixed with non-white...which a lot of Italy is.
i hope i'm wrong about the southern europeans. i trust what i see though. i've been all over the world and most spaniards and italians i've come into contact with me didn't look quite white. sad to say but that's my impression and i see no reason to ignore it.

do these italian americans look white to you? they don't to me. in fact 3 out of 4 of them look like full blown arabs.



anyhow, that's all i need to say. i was asked not to mention the topic again by Eric Wright and i don't wanna get my account deleted. i like this site and i like being amongst fellow white nationalists even if it's only a virtual sense.
 
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those southern europeans looked white to you?
You have posted pics of gypsys.
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I'm interested in why jews don't seem to mind sharing some of their power with Italians.
I don't think they share their power with Italians any more than the neocon jews share their power with Dick Cheney and Bill Bennett.
 
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