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September 23rd, 2013 | #2 | ||
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What I'm going to quote comes from my uncle's book, The Linder Sourcebook: Origins, Distribution and Immigrants, by Harold Linder (2004).
I had dinner with my uncle last night, and he told me that 10% of those with the name 'Linder' are jews. For the morons, I'll do the math: NINETY PERCENT OF PEOPLE NAMED LINDER ARE NOT JEWS. Oh wait. That ten percent is actually smaller because it includes English with the name and blacks named Linder. So the percentage of Linders who are jews is < 10%. ..."I speculate that ultimate Linder origins for the world are: Switzerland 50% Germany 25% Sweden 15% Jewish, England, Black 10%" (p. 4) Quote:
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The name Linder comes from the linden tree.
Tilia is a genus of about 30 species of trees native throughout most of the temperate Northern Hemisphere. Commonly called lime trees in the British Isles, they are not closely related to the lime fruit. Other names include linden and basswood. The genus occurs in Europe and eastern North America, but the greatest species diversity is found in Asia. Under the Cronquist classification system, this genus was placed in the family Tiliaceae, but genetic research by the Angiosperm Phylogeny Group has resulted in the incorporation of this genus into the Malvaceae. Tilia species are mostly large, deciduous trees, reaching typically 20 to 40 metres (66 to 130 ft) tall, with oblique-cordate leaves 6 to 20 centimetres (2 to 8 in) across. As with elms, the exact number of species is uncertain, as many if not most of the species will hybridise readily, both in the wild and in cultivation. Limes are hermaphroditic, having perfect flowers with both male and female parts, pollinated by insects. The genus is generally called lime or linden in Britain[1] and linden, lime, or basswood in North America.[2] "Lime" is an altered form of Middle English lind, in the 16th century also line, from Old English feminine lind or linde, Proto-Germanic *lendā, cognate to Latin lentus "flexible" and Sanskrit latā "liana". Within Germanic languages, English "lithe", German lind "lenient, yielding" are from the same root. "Linden" was originally the adjective, "made from lime-wood" (equivalent to "wooden"); from the late 16th century, "linden" was also used as a noun, probably influenced by translations of German romance, as an adoption of Linden, the plural of German Linde.[3] Neither the name nor the tree is related to the citrus fruit called "lime" (Citrus aurantifolia, family Rutaceae). Another common name used in North America is basswood, derived from bast, the name for the inner bark (see Uses, below). Teil is an old name for the lime tree. Latin tilia is cognate to Greek πτελέᾱ, ptelea, "elm tree", τιλίαι, tiliai, "black poplar" (Hes.), ultimately from a Proto-Indo-European word *ptel-eā with a meaning of "broad" (feminine); perhaps "broad-leaved" or similar. Sourcebook: The surname Linder is derived from the linden tree, which is found over most of Europe and is much celebrated in folklore. Linden trees often served as the focal points of village squares, early outdoor justice courts and community meeting places. Dragons were thought to live under the tree. (p. xii) Last edited by Alex Linder; September 23rd, 2013 at 10:44 AM. |
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September 23rd, 2013 | #5 |
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E. Linder and Lindner
The two surnames, Linder and Lindner, are frequently confused. In response to my inquiry, Dr. Winfried Breidbach, Namenberatung, Gesellschaft fur deutsche Sprache (Name Consultation, Society for Germany Language), Wiesbaden, Germany kindly sent me information, including the following: "Origin: both Lindner and Linder are formed with suffix -er marking the relaton to the basic word: Linden + er = Lindener = shortened almost regularly = Lindner, Lintner, Lindtner. Lind, Linde, Linda + -er = Linder". "Concerning the original meaning of Lindner and Linder denoting a person there are two possibilties: 1. Linder, Lindner denotes a person who has residence "by or near a lime tree" ((bei der) Linde singular), "by or near a couple or a wood of lime trees" ((bei den) Linden plural). 2. Linder, Lindner denotes a person who came from a place or town called Lind, Linda, Linde, Linden, Lindenau etc. (each of these variants of place names existed/exists frequently). In case of a given family, there is no way to verify one of these two possibilities (except that old documents give explicit evidence)." Since linden trees are widespread over the German-speaking areas considered here, one might expect Linder and Lindner distributions to be similar. However, a study of surnames in German-speaking cities by Brechenmacher (1957), based on 1930 data, shows that each name has an area of dominance with relatively little overlap. In general, Linder is dominant in southern Germany and Switzerland and Lindner is dominant in eastern Germany and adjacent areas of Poland. The boundary area runs east-west about the latitude of Frankfurt. My study of current (2000) telephone listings gives generally similar results. (p. 6) |
October 1st, 2013 | #7 | |
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We've got a good number of Linders in Sweden. Stumbled upon this one today, a (*another) Linder that fought the jew-communists, back then, in the guise of the Soviet giant.
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