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Old October 5th, 2013 #4821
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This post reminds me of the segments of the Goebbels Diaries in the late 20's where he was fighting against the Jewish police chief in Berlin "Weiss" who kept trying to silence him and sue him for calling him Isidore.
That's exactly right. They hit this guy day after day, pointing out that he doesn't protect the public at all, he lets leftist and Albanian terrorists run free, while occasionally doing a PR stunt to make it look like the System is doing something about illegal aliens. This roundup of Golden Dawn hierarchy in the name of criminal investigation is Dendias' and the System's formal striking back, which is tacit admission that daily smearing in the controlled media is not getting the job done. This political attack under cover of law shows the chickenwire tyranny beneath the flowery float called democracy. It also shows that the System considers Golden Dawn a genuine threat to take power legally.

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MSM Repitition of Words strikes fear in people's heart closes the minds;Racist>Extreme>Hate>
Yes...the System is trying to frighten the rabbits and get them scampering back to the safety of the 'mainstream' parties. The stronger Golden Dawn has grown, the less interested the media have been in running polls. A plan is created to squelch their rising power, and it's implemented on the pretext of the murder of an anti-white rapper. All of a sudden polls appear, literally in days, showing, supposedly, that Golden Dawn support has declined significantly.

The mass media are used to try to create reality, and if they can't then to cover it up, not to report on it.

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The 30 year old's photo Pappas and the season that broke windows Samaras!
Saturday, October 5, 2013 - 14:19



The "levant sparrowhawks' journalism, the willing servants of the establishment, university of lies and rogue in the ocean of misinformation and empathy discovered yet another" terrible "element against the GOLDEN DAWN. Did you found something that refers clearly in a criminal case? Course not. This both "aggravating circumstance" that was discovered some youth's photos Pappas shot 30 years ago (!). It's unbelievable the amount of hypocrisy of all those who speak for prosecution of GOLDEN DAWN and not political persecution, the moment their whole philology and mudslinging focuses on ... bottles of wine, replicas and clothes! Awesome level, actually ...

By the same token, however, must be arrested and imprisoned and Antonis Samaras, not for any sartorial preferences but for his participation in political events did in 1983 in Messinia as ONNEDitis on leadership Averof. Should also remanded in custody for the suspected then joining the "Centaurs" and "Rangers" real Neodimokratika "raid guilds" that era? could even go into much more recent time and see what he was saying against SW Samaras as head of Political Spring, from 1993 until 1999.

Let us remember what the newspapers wrote of the time when Antonis Samaras had broken the windows of the administration building Gendarmerie Messinia and tore the head ponchos Brigadier: "The blue hooligans are compared only with assault battalions of Hitler ... Only on the Government Voulgaris parastatal groups experienced such moments ... Days paramilitary violence lived Kalamata ... The brains of LD took care to cultivate systematically hate their fans arriving from all over Greece. went for their first "pilgrimage" in Meligala and when arrived at the offices of the Communist Party in Kalamata screaming "Death to the Communist Party" ... Mr. Averof justified the establishment of the Task Force ONNED, saying it's part to help the movement of the official events "

Let's not forget that we could still have posts pictures of Tsimas, the tremble of Kyrtsou and other accusers our shirts KNE, formerly, and they have now become the most fanatical supporters of the Memorandum and capitalism. Can be any of these punitive? These cheap "lovebirds" of journalism can not grasp that exposed irreparably what obscenely false and write, both because dealing with clothing far back in time, and because they demonstrate with their writings that this prosecution against CHRYSIS DAWN is clearly political in nature and not criminal.

GEORGE BUILDER

PS: Let's not forget that at that time (1986) Voridis was the leader in Youth HOUSING, clutching axes, participated in an attack against leftists in Athens Law School and gave an interview to newspaper HOUSING entitled "Violence in the violence of the Marxists." These are not criminally punishable?

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[The meat of mass media is falsified reality. Polls are the Hamburger Helper. See, leftists can't sell their program under its true colors. It doesn't appeal to anyone. So they look around for things people do like. And shift their shitty product under its label. Science is respected by the public? Why not call our agenda science? So it is with, for example, global warming. It's not us marxists making these claims (which add up to the need for higher taxes and more socialism), it's sciencey scientists saying it scientifically! So it is with polls in politics. Polls are used to confirm that what the marxists want has already happened, is happening, or is about to happen. Golden Dawn has done nothing but rise in honest polls for the last two years. The faster it rose, the less interested the System became in running any polls at all, because the reality was hard to mask. The System has no moral problem with lying, but it's not always that easy! The more popular Golden Dawn becomes, the harder it is to falsify polls. There comes a point, reached recently, where you simply drop the polls and turn to more direct measures - like rounding up the party leadership and trying them as thought criminals. THEN you restore the polls. And you have them claim that the public is racing away from this party toward which the public has done nothing but run toward the last two years. Polls in the hands of leftists are simply a talking piece of wood on the ventrilomarxist's knee.]

Policy considerations behind the spurious polls
Saturday, October 5, 2013 - 12:57

We have said before that communication amid storm and rapid political developments are fully anti-scientific conduct any kind of poll or polls generally. In addition, however, it has become apparent even to the most ignorant that there are two kinds of polls today in Greece. Such projected by the mainstream media and those that are not running or "cut" with summarily.

Let's look briefly four polls, two of each type, while making one comparison of the effectiveness of these companies in the first of two consecutive national elections, to see their credibility. The reason we refer to the surveys were the first electoral process is that you had no idea about the power of political parties, while in the second and even the most naive had a tracer, derived from the first match.

First of all let's talk about the polls Professor Panas , whose latest poll 'cut' republicanism, while there were secure information that gave the Golden Dawn 15%. Correspondingly, the professor before the first election gave the Golden Dawn 5.3% falling outside the target by 1.7%, ie within the estimated statistical error, which was increased since this was the first entrance of the Golden Dawn in parliament. We say that a relatively credible source pollster data gives 15% Golden Dawn today.

The second example will be the company VPRC whose poll aired yesterday from all of the mainstream media. In the poll of that company displayed a "precipitation" of the Golden Dawn, which, as we will see below is a misnomer and in command. The VPRC in May 2012 gave the Golden Dawn 2.2% speaking of Golden Dawn outside parliament. Ultimately faltering miserably and solemnly ypotriplasiazontas our rates. Now refers to "fall" of the Golden Dawn, so we can understand the basis of "reliability" that obviously can not be taken into account.

Third example is the RASS - RASS - Antonis SamaRASS, whose latest poll also showed "fall" of the Golden Dawn and also aired solemnly by all the mainstream media. The RASS in May 2012 was more parsimonious than the VPRC giving the Greek Nationalist Movement 3.8%, falling out at say 100%. So fall and now 100% outside forecasting speaking of fall of the Golden Dawn.

Fourth example poll zougla.gr. In the current poll seems obvious trend of increase of the Golden Dawn after the political persecution. Poll speaks for 15% versus 11% in the previous corresponding survey. In May 2012 the poll zougla.gr had fallen extremely close to actual rates of the Golden Dawn speaking of 6.5% compared to 7% real. Becomes so highly dependable and as said before talks about the rise of the Golden Dawn after the political persecution.

It is clear therefore that the polls, such as the RASS and VPRC, temporal stem from political offices of government and have no relation to reality. In this case try to show "fall" of the Golden Dawn to be the cause. Ultimately, though, you realize once again that the world does not eat "red meat" and does not believe the journalists nor the polls they allege.

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Poll Defencenet: foreign centers behind the persecution of the Golden Dawn
Saturday, October 5, 2013 - 11:32



Over 70% of those who argue that the government executes orders foreign

In an online poll carried out by the website Defencenet and the motives which prompted the government to porgkrom against the Greek Nationalists and political persecution of leaders, MPs and members of the People's Nationalist Movement, over 70% of respondents answered boldly that the witch hunt of government stems from orders of foreign centers, seeking to eliminate the People's Association-Golden Dawn!

Where the media give step into Greek people there and demonstrate the failure lasted several days slanderous campaign against the Movement of Greek Nationalists. Amid an unprecedented intimidation of civil liberties of the Greeks, from parties and media organizations insult and threaten the Nationalists, the Greek people said their concrete support to the Nationalist People's Movement, deploring with abhorrence unconstitutional and illegal political persecution of our fellow competitors.

In this poll and in a sample of about 10,500 people, 70.37% answered that the persecution against the People's Association-Golden Dawn is the product mandates to government centers abroad. The 17.68% also consider that this is a political persecution which, however, due to internal political conspiracy, while only 8.92% was the victim of propaganda media (either obsessions and dogmatism), considering that the prosecutions arising from the "criminal" acts of the party.

It is clear that the anti-nationalist (antichrysafgitiki to be precise) hysteria contractors informing the Greek People has found no response in large masses, which is no longer difficult to duped by government machinations against our movement. Additionally, however, it turns out that the instinct of the Greek people has identified the source of which was unleashed and the immoral and illegal war against the Golden Dawn: are those foreign centers which distinguish the Golden Dawn the only mortal threat to their interests!

The correctness of the belief of the Greek people, reaffirmed in statements and the former Minister of Justice, Roupakiotis, which revealed an open secret: that the U.S., European Union and Jewish organizations , strongly pressed and chock the government to move in any way by the People League-Golden Dawn!

To this end, the spokesman of the Golden Dawn agonist Kasidiaris also voiced the belief of the vast majority of the Greek People saying: "The pre-trial detention is unjust, there is absolutely no incriminating evidence to the Chief and members of the Golden Dawn. We are witnessing the greatest political crime in later Greek times. Instead of being in jail thieves, fraudsters with off-shore companies and scandals, the embezzlers of public funds remain inside the house and leads to Korydallos people only crime is that they told the truth, they demanded political catharsis, claimed a independent Greece. "

In conclusion, the Golden Dawn continues relentless political struggle voicing million Greeks who refused to bow to terrorism a government that serves the interests of foreign powers.'s Will our people get rid of thieves and crooks political life, is that that will open the way to the truth, in a period of darkness and false from those impoverished Greeks and sell out to Greece.

Golden Dawn to xevromisei place!

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Crowded offices of the Golden Dawn across the country despite the war and the mud
Saturday, October 5, 2013 - 8:32



The kalamatiana our fellow ignore the vile propaganda of rotten political establishment.

Despite the telethon culverts, insults and mudslinging against the Golden Dawn and the unjust and unconstitutional arrests of comrades / our Members and the Chief, our kalamatiana our fellow wrote the oldest of footwear terrorism and the mainstream media attended the offices of T. O. Kalamata where an extraordinary speech about current political developments. Fellow speakers and members of the 5-membered, fellow Kourakos Nicolaos, Achilles Mastoridis, Constantakopoulos George and Secretary T. C. Kalamata and Central Committee member and rival Lycurgus flour.

Main theme of the speech was unjust arrests of comrades and our leaders, GG Golden Dawn, Nikolaos Michaloliakos. During his speech was read the ridiculous charge that was based on lies, staged complaints and reports of the channels of the relationship. Categories without basis and without the slightest evidence, which was still not enough (for them) lead to the arrest of comrades and of our leaders. The reason was obvious since the coalition of the memorandum had failed to deal with us politically proceeded to unconstitutional arrests. Mouthpieces of the rulers of our country should in any way except to make political game the Golden Dawn, the only parliamentary movement that they know will be a major obstacle to their insidious plans. So flew the "democratic" their masks and took their teeth determined this time to bite openly. The bad thing about them was that bite but bitten steel. Not calculated, however, that our ideology and our morale is steel and famously steel as banging hardens.

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Monday & Saturday: 20:00 -22:30

T. C. Xanthi: lecture on "the necessity of the Popular Nationalism in Greek society '



Successfully held in the afternoon Wednesday, October 2, 2013, the concentration at the offices of T. C. Xanthi and the speech of the Secretary of our local and rival Kapageridis users on the "necessity of nationalism in Greece today."

The comrade, since we exposed all the recent events involving our Movement, said satisfaction with the developments regarding the politically persecuted fighters us and expressed his belief that it will have a happy ending this whole ordeal. Read the message from our leader written through the jail and excited, he said, once again and asked and from our faith in our leaders, which spontaneously tabled all shouting "LONG LIVE THE HEAD."

Then began his speech by saying that the current regime is equally devastating, vicious antifysiko and the communist terror experienced by peoples of the former Eastern bloc. Their only essentially difference is that in the jungle while liberalism imposed plush and communism with terror. Opposite to this pseudo-dipole we champion the People Nationalism derived directly from the traditions and heritage of Our Race, who created the brilliant culture of this planet.

Continuing agonist said the hope arises today because the Greek people, a naturally rebellious People, shows a clear tendency to return to the natural way of thinking and living of the People's Nationalism, chooses to follow once the certain uphill Blood and Honour ingredients of which induced the temporal Ellinikos living, as evidenced by Ancient Greek, Byzantine and post-Byzantine literature, as shown on the memoirs of Heroes in 1821, but in relatively recent Greek history.

With Greece and Greeks in immediate danger, he said, the People's Nationalism seems more necessary than ever. All systems according to the very laws of nature are inclined towards entropy, is a recognized and secure. The Western culture has become "technical" and approaching its end. There are two possible options from which to choose is called the Greek People. One is the slope of the Popular Nationalism to return and update the traditionary eternal values of our nation, the revival of the instinct of survival of our people. The other is the downhill, the decline of the maintenance of this antifysikou existence the same way the Greeks and by deduction system that underpins it. So ended agonist, Greeks must first epanellinistoun after to make state fit them and then a Greek culture that shine with light worthy name of Hellenism.

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Speaking at the offices of MC Halkidiki



For another week, the offices of the MC Halkidiki People's Association-Golden Dawn yesterday flooded with people. Dozens of fighters from every corner of Halkidiki gathered in Poligiros, to declare their support to the struggle of the Golden Dawn and state "present" in the battle between our movement for the liberation of Greece.

At 20:00, he began a planned speech by a member of the Prefectural Committee Halkidiki. In his speech, comrade, reported on current events and the dirty war that has declared sinful power system, against the Golden Dawn. He also stressed that with faith in our leaders will emerge victorious from this battle.

Then why was the Section Head, the winner of the MC Halkidiki, who made a historical - political flashback to the distant 1991, when executives SW, assassinated Nick Temponera. Nobody prosecutor not found then, to classify as a criminal organization Democracy.

Last step ascended the Secretary of the MC Halkidiki Ilkos Kosmas, who urged attendees to rally and race around the Chief of our movement, until the final victory. Then the secretary responded to questions from the world. As each event of the Golden Dawn, so this one, ended with the National Anthem and the Anthem of the Golden Dawn.

Halkidiki:
Tertseti 4 (behind the Prefecture), Poligiros
Tel: 6970885776
Opening hours: Monday 18:00 to 22:00

Crowded offices T. C. West Attica



Crowded and offices in western Attica with dozens fighters to enter successive scheduled speeches by member committee of local organization. The world turns its back on the status and thickens the lines of the Golden Dawn with greater attendance than ever. This shows that agonists and friends of the Movement is not intimidated by the slander and propaganda which has set up his company Samaras nor by the tens of afferent rivalry across Greece. They can not fight us and it will be seen soon and the general public as it will collapse like a house of cards all the calumnies against the Nationalist Movement sufficient justice to do this correctly you well know not to close your eyes and succumb to pressures from above.

LOCAL ORGANIZATION WEST ATTICA
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No Prison for Nationalists!
Thursday, October 3, 2013 - 7:28

"The louder by hitting the hammer, the sharper echoes the gantry volume of my volition."

F. Nietzsche

Saturday, September 28, 2013. The tyrannical regime which impoverishes our people entering the peak of dirty, illegal and entirely unethical campaign against the People's Nationalist Movement: captured by the Chief and members of the People's Association-Golden Dawn, a legitimate political movement which was passed by 500,000 Greeks in the national elections of June 2012.

At the same time, the decoys enslavement and subjugation, those who concealed (what does consideration.) All crimes of post-dictatorship Regime and party starter and corruption against the Greek People, rejoicing in a delirium antichrysafgitikis hysteria. All schemes Regime corrupt clap with hatred, seeking not a fair trial, but rather the execution of captured. Besides, they have pre-order the defendants to Idea fighters and our leader.

"Arrested Nikos Michaloliakos" write with Talmudic intensity envy and hatred, the high priests of cheating our people. Laugh with glee and aftosynchairontai it believes the movement is extinguished, will therefore continue to steal from the Greeks and to sell out the history and land of our ancestors. The most audacious of them, the servants of international Zionism and employees of international usurers, speak of "victory of democracy". Obviously mean "democracy" of the memoranda, the unemployed, immigrants and of course the oligarchy of wealth, which continues to enjoy the special prerogatives, while the Greek people pulled deeper into the abyss of poverty and despair.

The government is the submissive of international capital, wanted to terrorize the Greek people. Wanted to raise his finger and tell him: "I will not vote, nor will support any political formation you want, but those parties that you require the controlled of us channels, newspapers and radios! "He wanted to impose namely, deprivation of political freedoms in order for the State to continue to be hostage to the usurers and domestic servants.

FAILED!

Failed because the Golden Dawn did not die, the ideas nor imprisoned, nor dying. Notwithstanding the disgraceful and unlawful assault, Status of memoranda Movement stands solid as a rock with the Chief alive and flourishing and our Fellow integers, Civil Soldiers a titanic political struggle against the enemies of the Greek People.

They do not kill me makes me stronger!

Regime attacked with all his rage, but they failed to kill us. And the stormy heretofore path of the Popular Nationalist Movement has demonstrated that what does not kill us, makes us stronger! Faith in law and the sanctuary of our struggle remains unwavering. Love for the Homeland remains alive for this and our flag fluttering proudly!

A year ago, the People's Nationalist Movement was able to bare the postwar fraud, bringing its presence in joining up those political "opponents" against the Golden Dawn. Today the People's Association-Golden Dawn, succeeds to demonstrate to the Greek people, not only what the gang sells the Fatherland and impoverishes our people, but who are the originators of this gang. Is that the U.S. lobby, which hastens to visit Antonis Samaras to collect pennies for the valuable anti-national offices. Gloat of course, about the illegal and unconstitutional prosecution. But rejoice temporarily: the Greek people has not said his last word!

FREEDOM TO ETHNIKISTES POLITICAL PRISONERS!

Long Live the Victory!

Evangelos Karakostas

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The call of Plato for the politicization of the Tribe
Friday, October 4, 2013 - 7:28



"-Those who are pregnant in the body only, and call upon the women whelp children-because this is only the nature of their love. The Brood them, which they hope will preserve their memory and give them the blessedness and immortality which they wish in the future.

But the souls who are in pregnancy - because of course there are some who are more creative in their souls than in the body - conceive that which is proper for the soul to conceive or contain. "

- "And what are these conceptions?"

- "Wisdom and virtue in general. And are such parents, poets and all artists who should the name of the inventor. But the maximum and finer kind of wisdom [Note: wisdom] is a big difference, those who care about their definitions [Note: Laws] of States and families who call temperance and justice. "

208-209 Symposium, Plato

In the above passage, we see that Plato, Socrates orally, recognize the correlation between the woman's father child and political philosophy. So without much reasoning gives the following conclusion: Plato, referring to political philosophy, likens the fertile woman gives birth. And extols even saying that of the arrest, that wisdom and virtue that stands out is far more creative than others.

Mentioned briefly, in politics - probably better to politicization - of the nation or race. And do not hide even equating the "definitions of States", that the Laws of, those laws and rules of nature governing the family. Deepening not the last words, referring to Temperance and Justice, proceeds by turning inside Community calling for the emergence of a potential problem and requiring the application of Temperance and Justice as the basis and prerequisite for a solution to this.

And finally worth noting that, referring to the "definitions", not for descriptive and narrative in command of a tyrant, an impersonal, cold and distant manager of power and administration, but in those institutionalized Values (Justice, both moral-prescriptive and Social), which emerged from the Democratic Community and mark their nature and constitution of which are similar to those of the family which in turn is a consanguineous collectivity (such as the People). This particular observation differentiates visa to the Socratic word platonic "Symposium," From which kind dependence takes place nowadays between the ruler and the ruled, governor and administer.

This is because both the Platonic vision - vision (excellent state) and that the real vision of the Greek community, which had progressed to the state evolution, considers Temperance virtue of citizens, under the necessary presence of a revolving power and from citizens. In this way, Plato suggests the two sources of risk:

1. Their individual enrichment (recall that Plato had repeatedly expressed against private property and in favor of the collective) that efferent whittling the Democratic Community.
Two. Silly and without purpose "emancipation" of the person from society - State - Popular Community (individualism).

Indicatively that the combination of the two led Western Peoples in the current quagmire that losing actually own the States and made the individual interest overriding the collective and shallow sake of modern urban lifestyle and thinking.

NOTE

In "Symposium", Plato likens just the woman to the philosopher-general-but commits a social exceeded both very innovative for that time and for the present, the policy identifies with the arbitrariness of lawless power. He preaches that political philosophy can be a woman with superior personality. "Dares" and not refraining even to name the model and to present it: none other than the Diotima of Mantinea.

According to one aspect, rather complementary to the theoretical part, Diotima not a real person. Represents, however, the (pro-) wisdom, and therefore identify more feminine spiritual natures of.

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http://greece.greekreporter.com/2013...n-as-criminal/

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[Good example of what democracy really means, or means in practice: dictatorship. Vote for who they tell you or else!]

Greek PM: Government aims to eradicate Golden Dawn

The Associated Press

Saturday, Oct. 5, 2013 | 12:13 a.m.

Greece's prime minister says his government is aiming to completely eradicate the extreme-right Golden Dawn party, whose neo-Nazi leaders have been arrested. There are 10m people in Greece, not counting illegals, and 500,000 of them have voted for Golden Dawn. If new vote were taken today, that number would be over 1,000,000. He's just going to "eradicate" their voice because he disagrees with their opinion. That's "democracy" in action.

Antonis Samaras said Monday the judicial system is now in charge and "will take care of them" and get rid of them. He says the government will do everything it can to help "but we have to do whatever it takes."

"There is no room for the neo-Nazis in any part of the democratic world, and there is no tolerance for the neo-Nazis, or for any kind of extremism, undermining democratic institutions," the Greek leader said.

Samaras spoke at a private meeting of the American Jewish Committee, which advocates globally on Jewish issues. Some 100 invited guests loudly applauded his pledge to crack down on Golden Dawn.

What business is it of foreign jews what happens in Greece?

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Golden Dawn cleaned up a neighborhood around Athens - will it now drift back to illegal-alien-criminal control?

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[NYT op-ed]

Saving Greek Democracy by stilling the voice of 20% of the population
By NIKOS KONSTANDARAS
October 4, 2013

ATHENS — As news broke of the arrests of Golden Dawn’s leadership early last Saturday, many Greeks felt as though they were waking up in another country. It was not only that the long-delayed crackdown on the neo-fascist party was stunning in speed and scope; more importantly, the arrests went a long way toward restoring faith in our democratic institutions. Greece’s economic collapse is widely blamed on systemic mismanagement, corruption and cronyism, its government criticized by populist opposition leaders as little more than the proxy of foreign creditors imposing harsh austerity on ordinary people. The economic dead end of the last six years has prompted the collapse of the two centrist parties that once shared 80 percent of the vote, spurring the rise of once-marginal political groups.

The arrest of Golden Dawn’s leaders, including 6 of its 18 members of Parliament, and the probe of the organization’s links to members of the police, was a sudden reaffirmation of the government’s will to restore order criminal regime's desperate attempt to save itself. But Greece also faces a difficult and delicate challenge: It has to protect its democracy against those who would subvert it, or face a backlash with unpredictable consequences if Golden Dawn can make the case that it is the patriotic victim of political persecution. The government’s task will not be easy because the forces that empower Golden Dawn — popular discontent and institutions that abstain from their responsibilities — are still present.

The arrests have raised troubling issues about balancing freedom of political expression with the need for law and order. No they don't. Anything with eyes can see GD was busted for being popular and persuading people's its ideas were right. "Saving democracy" is cant. Samaras and Dendias are tyrants, and the System is a dictatorship. At first the media covered the incident as if all the suspects had been convicted, only to veer toward the other extreme, with many commentators seeing the conditional release of three Golden Dawn members of Parliament as possible vindication of the group. The pretrial detention of Golden Dawn’s leader, Nikos Michaloliakos, ordered early Thursday, put things into perspective: The judicial investigation will be long and complicated.

Golden Dawn’s cadres have already begun the counterattack. Members staged loud protests outside the court complex, and when the three lawmakers were released they shouted insults at journalists, pushing and kicking at some reporters. “Only bullets can stop us,” Nikos Michos, one of the three, later said. Until last year’s elections, Golden Dawn voters numbered only a few thousand. But now the party’s popular support is growing as Greeks — once the most avid supporters of E.U. membership — have lost faith in the country’s course. A poll released shortly before the arrests showed that, in the past year alone, negative opinions of the European Union had risen to 55 percent, while support for the euro had dropped from 67 percent to 51 percent. In the same poll, Golden Dawn was projected to get 13 percent if elections were held now, making it the country’s third-strongest political party.

In this climate of suspicion, institutions appeared powerless to impose the law, and the police seemed not to care about Golden Dawn’s crimes nor its infiltration of their ranks, leading many to fear that democracy itself was being undermined by growing extremism. Neo-fascist thugs prowled the streets, attacking immigrants and members of minority groups, while their leaders in Parliament carried out verbal assaults on rival lawmakers, immigrants and minorities. At the same time, decades of tolerance for left-wing violence has fostered a sense of lawlessness that allows the far right to claim they are reacting to the excesses of the left.

It seemed nothing could stop the slide toward greater violence. Then, on Sept. 18, a self-professed member of Golden Dawn stabbed and killed Pavlos Fyssas, a 34-year-old anti-fascist activist and rapper, in a brawl in Piraeus. His murder prompted a huge outcry. After years of inaction, the government and state authorities caught fire. Golden Dawn’s impunity has ended. Its leaders face charges that include heading a criminal organization, murder, assault, blackmail and money laundering. People who supported the party can now see behind the anti-austerity, anti-system politics. Those who opposed the party and its racist, anti-Semitic rants are at long last encouraged that the state has acted against it. Officials of the government and democratic institutions need to act carefully but decisively. They have to convince Golden Dawn’s voters, and others — including left-wing parties — that they are prosecuting crimes, not ideas, however abhorrent the free expression of some ideas might be. As the mayor of Athens, Giorgos Kaminis, one of the few leaders who has faced up to Golden Dawn thuggery over past years, and was physically attacked by one of the group’s Parliament members when he banned a food handout for “Greeks only,” said months ago: “We must drive them mad with the imposition of the law.”

If Golden Dawn’s prosecution is seen as legally flawed and politically motivated, the group will gain power and legitimacy. If court procedures are impeccable, if citizens can believe, at last, that the law applies to all without exception, then a group that based its power on hatred and fear will provide Greece with the greatest gift in these grim years of uncertainty: new faith in its democracy.

Nikos Konstandaras is the managing editor and a columnist at the Greek daily newspaper Kathimerini.

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"They have to convince Golden Dawn’s voters, and others — including left-wing parties — that they are prosecuting crimes, not ideas,"

The Holocaust is a shield of Israel and their gentile agents of criminal enterprise.
 
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The MSM just wheeled out the oubituary of Gen. Vo Nguyen Giap, 102 yrs old, who successfully drove out France and US forces at the end of WW II from Vietnam's shores. No such equivalent of worldwide news praise would ever run about a GD general ousting the end of U.S. sanctions or a purge of elite Jews in Athens.
 
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Greece’s neo-Nazis: Breakthrough or backlash: Will the arrest of Golden Dawn’s leaders rebound on Greek democracy?http://www.economist.com/news/europe...gh-or-backlash





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THE arrest of both leaders of an elected party is unprecedented for a member of the European Union. On September 28th the Greek government began a crackdown on Golden Dawn, a neo-Nazi party, which has 18 MPs in Greece’s 300-strong parliament. Among those put in handcuffs by counter-terrorism officers in bulletproof vests and balaclavas were Nikos Michaloliakos, leader of Golden Dawn, four other MPs and 14 party supporters. Mr Michaloliakos’s deputy, Christos Pappas, gave himself up to police a day later.

Police and intelligence services have been gathering information on Golden Dawn’s supposed criminal activities for months. But it was the alleged murder of Pavlos Fyssas, an anti-fascist rapper, by a Golden Dawn supporter on September 18th that prompted the crackdown. Mr Fyssas’s killing sparked a national and international outcry and mass rallies against Golden Dawn. As protests against his party intensified, Mr Michaloliakos threatened to pull his lawmakers out of parliament, a move that could have forced a series of by-elections, destabilising Greece’s fragile coalition government.

Under the constitution a party cannot be banned, so the government has had to resort to criminal law to rein in a party it has come to see as a threat to the country’s nearly 40-year-old democracy. The legal basis for the arrests is a report by a prosecutor laying out allegations against the Golden Dawn leadership, including murder, attempted murder, carrying out explosions, possessing explosives and robbery. It says Golden Dawn’s structure is paralleled by a military-type operational force whose members attack mainly immigrants. The group’s strict hierarchical structure, similar to the Nazi Führerprinzip, meant the party leadership knew of every attack and local chapters followed central orders.

On a visit to New York on September 30th, the Greek prime minister, Antonis Samaras, said his government would do “whatever it takes” to eradicate the “shame” of Golden Dawn. On the same day his government submitted a draft law to parliament aimed at cutting state money for the party. (Golden Dawn was due to receive more than €873,000, or $1.2m, in 2013.) The law would suspend state funding for a party if any of its leadership or its MPs are being prosecuted for felonies.

The success of the crackdown will depend on whether the prosecutor has a solid case. If it can be proved that Golden Dawn is a criminal organisation linked to murder and robbery—and there appears to be plenty of evidence—then the arrests will be legitimate and could boost Mr Samaras’s government. If not, it may look like a heavy-handed and even anti-democratic effort to put an end to a political movement which, however ugly, enjoys considerable popular support.

Optimists say that, if he feels his New Democracy party has become more popular, Mr Samaras may be tempted to call new elections next spring in the hope of getting a stronger government than the present, uncomfortable two-party combination. A more stable government would help Mr Samaras in negotiations with Greece’s international lenders about a possible third bail-out of the recession-ridden country. Representatives of the “troika” of the IMF, the EU and European Central Bank have recently been in Athens and are expected to return soon. The government also needs to finalise next year’s budget and meet conditions for the next tranche of €1 billion of its current bail-out, including more public-sector cuts and faster privatisation. At least Mr Samaras has now won brownie points with his unexpectedly firm move against neo-Nazis.
 
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"Yes...the System is trying to frighten the rabbits and get them scampering back to the safety of the 'mainstream' parties. The stronger Golden Dawn has grown, the less interested the media have been in running polls. A plan is created to squelch their rising power, and it's implemented on the pretext of the murder of an anti-white rapper. All of a sudden polls appear, literally in days, showing, supposedly, that Golden Dawn support has declined significantly.

The mass media are used to try to create reality, and if they can't then to cover it up, not to report on it. "



Since 1960s starting with the Selma church bombing of AA gilrs. Of course it could have been an inside job. Regardless the media ate it up like a cake. Desensitize congress and the whites enacted civil rights act- immigration act without a national referendum vote.

This is like waking up in the morning it’s the same day of Ground Hog Day with Bill Murray of paralysis we’re in,. Greek people will get it right this time and revolt against the criminals..
 
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"Yes...the System is trying to frighten the rabbits and get them scampering back to the safety of the 'mainstream' parties. The stronger Golden Dawn has grown, the less interested the media have been in running polls. A plan is created to squelch their rising power, and it's implemented on the pretext of the murder of an anti-white rapper. All of a sudden polls appear, literally in days, showing, supposedly, that Golden Dawn support has declined significantly.

The mass media are used to try to create reality, and if they can't then to cover it up, not to report on it. "

Since 1960s starting with the Selma church bombing of AA gilrs. Of course it could have been an inside job. Regardless the media ate it up like a cake. Desensitize congress and the whites enacted civil rights act- immigration act without a national referendum vote.

This is like waking up in the morning it’s the same day of Ground Hog Day with Bill Murray of paralysis we’re in,. Greek people will get it right this time and revolt against the criminals..
Our polls show that GD is well over above 20%, not counting the 30% of the voters who did not vote in the last elections but will vote now.

The ones who run the show in the background, against us miscalculate, as always, a simple fact about the Greeks and especially the hard core of GD and our groups.

It is impossible to scare us, as we live for the fight, we are trained in ways this idiots attack us are not.

NO we will not revolt and we will not fall into their traps to spiral the country into civil war.

When the problem is 1000 civilians, among ten million, you dont revolt you just eliminate surgically the problem.
 
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The Twilight of Golden Dawnhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/justin...b_4032718.html





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Developments in the judicial inquiry into Golden Dawn were evolving rapidly when, early Saturday morning, in a crackdown that dominated worldwide news, the Greek police arrested the general-secretary of the country's neo-facist party along with many key accomplices. Nikos Michaloliakos was hauled before the courts in tandem with his parliamentary spokesman and second in command, Christos Pappas, facing charges of murder and assault in the recent death of left-wing hip-hop musician and activist, Pavlos Fyssas.

Resulting investigations into the respective homes of its leaders along with clandestine recorded conversations among its members by Greece's Secret Service, EYP, have exposed Golden Dawn as an organization with a strict military structure that persecutes immigrants and glorifies Hitler, all under the guise of helping the weak and elderly.

Depicting its members as common thugs, Greek Deputy Public Prosecutor, Charalambos Vourliotis, denounced Golden Dawn as a criminal organization that is a threat to Greece's public institutions and the country's constitution. Aside from charges of murder, extortion, arson and blackmail, Mr. Vourliotis stunned the Greek public by revealing details of the group's "Centaur Program" that aimed to recruit minors as young as 14 years old into youth hit squads.

In a shocking nine-page report, Vourliotis outlines how Golden Dawn adhered to a hierarchial "Fuhrerprinzip" structure with "Fuhrer" Michaloliakos' political authority above and beyond any written law. A rigid chain of command was in place whereby Michaloliakos would transfer orders through Pappas and his other officials, Elias Kassidaris, John Hare, Elias Panayiotaros and Christos Michas.

How, one would ask, was this extremist fringe group able to become such a force on the Greek political scene, rising from 0.3 percent of the popular vote in the country's 2009 elections, to over 400,000 or 7 percent of the total and capture 18 parliamentary seats a mere three years later?

Golden Dawn was created sometime around 1980 by its leader and disciple of former Greek military dictator Georgios Papadopoulos, Nikos Michaloliakos. The group's early endeavors centered around the publication of a radical magazine, Chrysi Avgi, that praised the ancient Gods of Olympus and proclaimed the superiority of the Greek race.

In the early 1990s, Golden Dawn would seize upon the turmoil surrounding the use of the name Macedonia, a region of Northern Greece, by a Former Yugoslav Republic (FYROM) to plan xenophobic protests and violent attacks against foreigners and become a true political movement. The massive wave of immigrants, many of them illegal, that would soon follow and the impossibility of the Greek State to integrate such numbers and to police crime-riddled immigrant neighborhoods would serve to strengthen the hand of the organization.

It would come to be known that Greek police officers often co-operated with Golden Dawn, sending Greek citizens in need of protection their way. The party would assist the elderly when withdrawing money from bank machines, investigate break-ins and thefts from locals' homes and help Greeks collect delinquent rents from immigrants.

A deepening financial crisis that would drag on for years, bringing unemployment to dizzying levels and wiping out a quarter of the Greek economy, along with the portrayal of Greece as a land of lazy, tax-evading criminals in the international media would play right into Golden Dawn's racist hands, enabling it to become the third most popular party in the country.

The brutal assassination of Pavlos Fyssas, however, appears to have spurred a dormant Greek State into action. Responding to the outcry of a horrified electorate, the government has taken bold, unprecedented action against a political party, all under the threat of being accused of persecuting political opponents.

Notwithstanding the seriousness of the charges, some of the accused lawmakers were released until they face their day in court. Regardless, there can be no denying that this is the beginning of the end for Golden Dawn, the overt bullying and illegal activity of its executives testament to the fact that it could not handle its constitutional presence and was doomed, as all fascist organizations, to implode.

That bitch's name is Justine, and wasn't Emporer Justinian a hardcore Christian who butchered Whites that still worshipped their original pagan gods?
 
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Golden Dawn developments “testing the far-right waters” in Cyprus toohttp://www.balkaneu.com/golden-dawn-...waters-cyprus/





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The fast moving developments over Golden Dawn in Greece have stirred a domestic debate in Cyprus regarding the nature and the actions of the far-right party of the National Popular Front (NPF or ELAM in its Greek acronym). The debate heated up after the AKEL leader presented the Justice and Public Order Minister with material showing military style exercises taking place in Troodos with ELAM’s involvement, in scenes resembling Golden Dawn’s structure of violence. The ELAM leaders have not made a secret out of the close links with its Greek sibling party. “We are the Golden Dawn of Cyprus,” a spokesman declared last week, while reports have attributed attacks against immigrants to the Cypriot xenophobic organisation. As Dr Christos Kassimeris, Associate Professor in Political Science at the European University of Cyprus, notes, “founded in 2008, and having contested only one national election, the NPF echoes authoritarianism, anti-communism, anti-Turkism, and all things anti-immigration”. In a written analysis for IBNA, Dr Kassimeris comments: “For more than thirty years, politics in Cyprus featured no party of the extreme right. Today, the NPF is Cyprus’ new voice of fascism, its growth obviously favoured by the recent legitimacy crisis of the political system and the newly emerged economic crisis. More precisely, the entry of Cyprus into the European Union, the election of a President from the ranks of left-wing AKEL, the Church’s xenophobic stance, and the continuous efforts for rapprochement with the Turkish-Cypriot leadership are all key factors that help explain the reappearance of the extreme right in Cyprus; however, polling barely over 1 per cent in the 2011 national elections will hardly ever constitute a story of political success–it is an electoral achievement nonetheless.” According to the Cypriot political scientist, ELAM is rightly causing concern among some in Cyprus: “Successful or not, the sheer presence of an extreme right-wing party in a divided country that has long been tarnished by ill-conceived political agendas is definitely cause for alarm. Political conditions in what was a long-standing polarized Cyprus between left and right are nowadays all the more blurry, particularly, since AKEL held executive power for the first time in 2008. A seemingly disoriented electorate surely is fertile ground for the rise of an extreme right-wing party, as in Greece, given that nationalism is the unifying theme that caters to the concerns of the vast majority of Greek-Cypriot voters.” Yet translating the party’s growing appetite for nationalism into a sizable voting force seems like an implausible scenario at present. “Dominated by no more than a few highly influential, and therefore popular, political parties, the electoral landscape of Cyprus makes no promises for success to newly emerged parties, especially when their main characteristic is extremism. That the National Popular Front has increased its popularity to 2 per cent, according to a July 2013 opinion poll, is only significant for statistical purposes, even though such a percentage would allow the party entry to the House of Representatives,” adds Dr Kassimeris. “The manifesto of the National Popular Front maintains an ideology that is almost novel to politics in Cyprus, but whether current phenomena denoting fascism and xenophobia will continue to appeal to the Greek-Cypriot voters remains to be seen. If anything, developments concerning the activities of key Golden Dawn members of the Greek parliament will certainly test the waters in Cyprus too,” concludes the European University Cyprus Assistant Professor in Political Science.
 
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