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Old July 20th, 2009 #1
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'Hello mum, this is going to be hard for you to read ...'

At 19, Rifleman Cyrus Thatcher was one of the youngest victims of the Afghan war. These letters – given to The Independent by his family – reveal the excitement of a teenager sent to fulfil his dream, and his maturity in confronting the possibility that he might not make it home

Monday, 20 July 2009




In the spring of this year, the 2nd Battalion, The Rifles deployed to Afghanistan. Halfway through the battalion's tour, it has lost nine soldiers, with dozens injured.

Of those to have given their lives, four were teenagers. Here Rifleman Cyrus Thatcher, who was 19 when he was killed by an explosion near Gereshk seven weeks ago, tells his own story, through letters home and the last letter he left behind to bid farewell to his family – his mother Helena, father Robin and brothers Zac, 21, and Steely, 17.

Following are the words of a proud soldier described by his officers as possessing "a rucksack full of potential", and by his friends as a rascal always cracking jokes and helping to keep morale high. Most of all, they are the words of a young son to his mum, dad and brothers.

Terri Judd

27 April 2009

Hello Mum

I've just got your bluey [letter] (the 1st one) yea you are right it does get fucking hot, I can't work out wether I'm tanned or just burnt to fuck!! I've spoke to you on the phone so you no what I've been doing. I'm well proud of you loosing all that weight. Suppose you've got a pretty good insentive. We'v had the same shit maybe a month now. Everyday a Monday out here. You kind of loose track of days. I cant quite work out if its going fast or slow. This pen is shit its doing my head in!!

Iv been thinking of loads of things and places to do, go and see. Me and Elliott are gonna go to Amsterdam after this. THINK WE MAY HAVE DESERVED IT!! It should be a good day (November 5th) [their homecoming parade]. On the 6th we can go Belfast Iv'e got loads of sad things I wanna buy ie Sky+ Big TV. Get the old man to help me rearange my room and help me fix my shelves. Im not the DIY type normally resort to celler tape or blue tack. HA HA HA. Hope everyones safe at home. Complete detox out here – water no drink. So my dance moves might involve a bit of stumbling when I return! Im coming home 2 weeks earlier now so that's kinda good, it might be worth Zac picking me up give me a bit of chill out time so I don't try stab a gobby civvi plus he's a good listener, sumtimes I wonder if he's listening or thinking of sumthing completely irrelivant.

Well pass this round the family so they can all admire my extream spelling (infantry eh!). Lots of love to all the nearest and dearest. Love Ya!! Xxxx

1 May 2009

Hey Mum + family

Ill always address my letters to you cuz I no your probley the only one who gets to the mail!! You'll have to let me no how quick these are getting you ill keep writing the date?? Everything is good up this way getting hotter, still moving at a million miles per hour (HA HA HA) I think Iv'e stopped burning Im slowly going brown and my hair is getting ridiculous just wait till I come home ill look like a fucking wooky?! I was gonna write to granny + grandad but to be honest with the few spare hours I get Id'e rather write home ey? BTW send my regards to Daphne, Joan, Brian etc. Let em no how Im doing?

Every so often we get old people and churches send us little gifts like baby wipes, razors, sweets and stuff so its quite a good bit of moral. Got some really good photos ill have to bring my camera back so we can get that Kosovo collage on the go, to bring back on the 5th of November. If you saw what and where Ive been sleeping you would be shocked!! So pictures will back me up!

Unfortunately 3 blokes died 2 days ago in an IED explosion in one of the FOBs [Forward Operating Bases] bout 2 kilometers away – we visited that FOB 2 days before the attack – fucking mental quite scary actually! We'v had a rest day so Im doing a bit of hand washing and fitness! God you'd be so proud Ha! Ha! Ha! We've still had spam, rice, beans and unflavoured noodles every day – promise me actually I promise you if I see spam in the house ill fucking destroy it!! Im getting pretty good at making flat bread and we bout a goat of a local for 200 dollars and we slaughtered it. I got a good video. Its either catch it, kill it, or make it out here or else you go hungry LOL!! The showers are also freezing whilst Im on the subject of moaning?? Id'e best go again BUT ill keep writing when I get the time + ill be home in a couple of months. Love you'zzz all don't worry bout me to much. Theres only 3 things that kill people over hear BULLETS, BOMBS + EGOS so I might go down with a bad case of swollen head!! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Love ya xxxxx

12 May 2009

Hello Mother

Yesterday was a massive day for moral an american chopper came in yesterday. I got 5 blueys one from Zac, Daphne, I think Sharpie sent one and Dad?? With some pictures that was great. I stared at them for about an hour I cant explain how good it is to get pictures and stuff you get grown men close to tears at the sight of there kid or a good night out its really strange how this place fucks with your head and emotions. A BIG ONE that I NEED you to try do (get started ill help when I get back) is appeal to local charitys, churches, major companys ie Zoo, Cadburys, boots you name it. Write to them and explain my whereabouts and they do send gifts, chocolate, sweets, magazines you name it trust me a lot of the lads parents did it and they've got clothes, the lot. Trust me Red bull, lucazade, fags AND SWEETS are wicked just keep sending them and URGE people to send photos they keep the moral SKY HIGH. I thought Steely and Zacs [poses] in the garden were quality. I can only prove how much a letter or small parcel means by finding time to right back – that's probley the most precious thing I have and Id'e trade hours for a letter.

On some much sadder news one of our rifleman died a few days back, we had a parade and a few minutes silence its so strange how many emotions you go through living in these conditions its like everything wants to beat you and rewin your day. Its about not letting it get to you and don't worry nothing fucking gets to me. Well Im off I love you all loads thanks for my parcels and letters. Lots of love xxx

14 May 2009

Hey Mum!

Its just gone 10 in the morning here Im on a stag rotation for the next 7 days guarding the FOB. Its 6 hours on 3 hours off so not much sleep. (Im already an hour in). If you could see what Im looking at now you'd be pretty shocked. Its pretty stunning to be honest. I could probley sling shot a stone from where we were last contacted [shot at] from Ha! Ha! Ha! Pretty fucking crazy huh? I shouldn't really tell you this but its safer than on the phone – were leaving this place. Its gonna be a fucking massive operation moving this lot + a lot of helicopter rides. So when I come back after R&R [leave] ill fly to [the main British camp] bastion then out to our new FOB. You don't really do much on stag. Swetting my tits of its gonna hit 50 degrees today. AAAAH Shit my grenade just fell out of my [body armour] – we wont mention that to any higherarcy will we now.

I think you said you were going to a weight loss thing a few days ago hope that well? (Just keep going) 37 days ill be home – not that Im counting or anything??? THINK there's a bird coming in today at 13.30 so this bluey will probley arrive with the others – well as always gotta go ill try ring when I get a top-up of minuets on Monday. FUCK knows what day it is I thought it was Sunday today. Ha! Ha! Well lots of love to you all!

Cyrus Thatcher was killed on 2 June 2009. This is the letter he wrote to be delivered to his family if he died:

Hello its me, this is gonna be hard for you to read but I write this knowing every time you thinks shits got to much for you to handle (so don't cry on it MUM!!) you can read this and hopefully it will help you all get through.

For a start SHIT I got hit!! Now Iv got that out the way I can say the things Iv hopefully made clear, or if I havent this should clear it all up for me. My hole life you'v all been there for me through thick and thin bit like a wedding through good and bad. Without you I believe I wouldn't have made it as far as I have. I died doing what I was born to do I was happy and felt great about myself although the army was sadly the ending of me it was also the making of me so please don't feel any hate toward it. One thing I no I never made clear to you all was I make jokes about my life starting in the Army. That's wrong VERY wrong my life began a LONG time before that (Obviously) but you get what I mean. All the times Iv tried to neglect the family get angry when you try teach me right from wrong wot I mean to say is I only realised that you were trying to help when I joined the army and without YOUR help I would have never had the BALLS, the GRIT and the damn right determination to crack on and do it. If I could have a wish in life it would to be able to say Iv gone and done things many would never try to do. And going to Afghan has fulfilled my dream ie my goal. Yes I am young wich as a parent must brake you heart but you must all somehow find the strength that I found to do something no matter how big the challenge. As Im writing this letter I can see you all crying and mornin my death but if I could have one wish in an "after life" it would be to stop your crying and continueing your dreams (as I did) because if I were watching only that would brake my heart. So dry your tears and put on a brave face for the rest of your friends and family who need you.

I want each and everyone of you to forfill a dream and at the end of it look at what you have done (completed) and feel the accomplishment and achievement I did only then will you understand how I felt when I passed away.

[To his brothers:] You are both amazing men and will continue to be throughout your lives you both deserve to be happy and fofill all of your dreams.

Dad – my idol, my friend, my best friend, my teacher, my coach, everything I ever succeeded in my life I owe to you and maybe a little bit of me! You are a great man and the perfect role model and the past two years of being in the army I noticed that and me and you have been on the best level we have ever been. I thank you for nothing because I no all you have given to me is not there to be thanked for its there because you did it cause you love me and that is my most proudest thing I could ever say.

Mum, where do I start with you!! For a start your perfect, your smell, your hugs, the way your life was dedicated to us boys and especially the way you cared each and every step us boys took. I love you, you were the reason I made it as far as I did you were the reason I was loved more than any child I no and that made me feel special.

Your all such great individuals and I hope somehow this letter will help you get through this shit time!! Just remember do NOT mourn my death as hard as this will seem, celebrate a great life that has had its ups and downs. I love you all more than you would ever no and in your own individual ways helped me get through it all. I wish you all the best with your dreams.

Remember chin up head down. With love Cyrus xxxx

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Old July 20th, 2009 #2
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Most of all they are the words of immaturity.
 
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Most of all they are the words of immaturity.
When I was his age I had just finished Field Medical Service School ('C' School) and was sent to a Marine Corps infantry unit where the company I was assigned was on Alpha Alert. That meant that if anything happened anywhere in the world our asses were put on choppers and taken to a plane heading to the hot spot in question. Every member of the company was dressed out in bdus with their gear and rifles at the end of their bunk.

Alpha Alert lasted a week and was rotated through the companies in the battalion. During the time we were on Alpha Alert we couldn't leave the barracks except for dinner at the chow hall across the street.

I was just as immature and frankly a little more than frightened. Never did I realize that I would wind up with a Marine Corp combat unit when joining the Navy and then to be informed of the nature of Alpha Alert on top of that made the introduction sketchy at best.

Cut this fellow a break. He deserves it.

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Another Walmart, trailer park, ZOG-dupe bites the dust. Good riddance. I'll bet his sisters are so heart broken they haven't sucked any black cock in two days.

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Kind've a heartless way to speak about a fellow White who we are supposed to be about 'saving'.

So he doesn't have perfect grammar or high IQ, who gives a shit.

He was a white man who loved his family. Yeah he was naive and believed the jewish lies about fighting the war over there.. but who is to blame for that? his naivety or the jewish liars
 
Old July 20th, 2009 #6
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Most of all they are the words of immaturity.
Immaturity, sure. He was only 19. Just a mere child. But as a mother, his letters are endearing and his last letter heartbreaking to the point of tears in my eyes.

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WTF. Did you even read it? He had 2 brothers. A sons communication to his mother, how is that trailer park or walmart?
 
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Another Walmart, trailer park, ZOG dupe-bites the dust. Good riddance. I'll bet his sisters are so heart broken they haven't sucked any black cock in two days.
I didn't know where he bought his groceries, what kind of dwelling he lived in or who his sisters have sex with, so thank you for the brilliant insight.

He was indeed duped, which is why his death is so tragic... at least to me.
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WTF. Did you even read it? He had 2 brothers. A sons communication to his mother, how is that trailer park or walmart?
My bad. I'll bet his brothers are so heart broken, they haven't sucked any black cock in days.
 
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My bad. I'll bet his brothers are so heart broken, they haven't sucked any black cock in days.
Whats with your obsession with sucking black cocks?


I could understand if it were people you knew.. but you dont know anything about them. So it comes off a bit gay you keep bringing it up
 
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My bad. I'll bet his brothers are so heart broken, they haven't sucked any black cock in days.
Obviously you missed the entire point I was making. Who the fuck are you to judge and be so disrespectful of someone you do not know nor have any knowledge of. No where in the letters did it seem he had cock sucking nor nigger loving brother. Just only letters from a son back home to his mother. A son, in a war he didn't start nor belong in, writting his mother back home. Plain and simple.
 
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My bad. I'll bet his brothers are so heart broken, they haven't sucked any black cock in days.
You had better thank your lucky stars you are not around me... I would smash your teeth down your throat, you scum bag.
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Obviously you missed the entire point I was making. Who the fuck are you to judge and be so disrespectful of someone you do not know nor have any knowledge of. No where in the letters did it seem he had cock sucking nor nigger loving brother. Just only letters from a son back home to his mother. A son, in a war he didn't start nor belong in, writting his mother back home. Plain and simple.
You're the one who misses the entire point. All ZOG military ops are fraudulent, unreal, a pack of lies that benefit no one but ZOG. If you are stupid enough to allow yourself to be used for ZOG's ends, you deserve whatever your dumb, flag waving ass gets. There is no honor in it at all. Not only do you deserve your fate, you should be held up as an example of a failure, dupe, tool, etc.

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You had better thank your lucky stars you are not around me... I would smash your teeth down your throat, you scum bag.
You'd really like me to fuck your brains out, wouldn't you?
 
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Fissle, I get frustrated with Kwans, too. Well, this guy was a Brit, so I guess he wasn't a Kwan. I don't think they have WalMart in England, do they? Anyway, I was doing dumb things when I was 19. Most of us were. I don't fault the kid. You shouldn't, either, unless you have been a WN your entire life.
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You're the one who misses the entire point. All ZOG military ops are fraudulent, unreal, a pack of lies that benefit no one but ZOG. If you are stupid enough to allow yourself to be used for ZOG's ends, you deserve whatever your dumb, flag waving ass gets. There is no honor in it at all. Not only do you deserve your fate, you should be held up as an example of a failure, dupe, tool, etc.
He is a 19 yr old Brit. How is he being dupped by the Kwan? Your missing major points of the story. Are you drunk or in need of an eye exam to actually read the main post, since its so obvious you didn't to start with before spouting your 2 cents of cruel nonsense.
 
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Another Walmart, trailer park, ZOG dupe-bites the dust. Good riddance. I'll bet his sisters are so heart broken they haven't sucked any black cock in two days.
ROTFLOL!!!!!

Absolutely.

Now,seriously speaking I would like to explain my point of view,hope you'll understand it :

1.-The dead soldier was a ZOGBOT

It doesn't matter if he is 19,18 or 79 years old,he still is a ZOGBOT .Period.

I ask you all:

2.- What makes him different from other ZOGBOTS??????

Cos I got breaking news:
All ZOGBOTS have a Family: A Father,A Mother,Brothers,Sisters,a Wife,Children,etc.

Why do you feel sorry for him?

because he is YOUNG? ...Guess what? ALL ZOGBOTS WERE YOUNG,SKINNY AND NAIVE.

Come 0n,give me a fucking break! He was trained to kill! his bullets are as deadly as the ones of a 300 Pounds 6'8 ZOGBOT.

It doesn't matter the reason WHY he became a ZOGBOT.

3.- Some of you remind me of that whining Ol bitch of Cindy Sheehan.

Well,Cindy Sheehan is angry because her ZOGBOT of a son did not return to home as a "ZOGBOT HERO" but inside a coffin!

that's the truth.Period. FUCK HER!

5.-To the young Women here: If you,your sister or daughter would get pregnant by that same brit soldier: WOULD YOU DEMAND FOR CHILD SUPPORT? or WOULD YOU LET HIM GO because He is a 19 year old idiot?

HA! I already KNOW your answers.

So How come "HE IS OLD ENOUGH" to become a Parent and pay child support and at the same time "YOUNG AND NAIVE" to become K.I.A.?

4.-When the STHF I bet that many 18,19 year old ZOGBOTS are going to knock your doors down ,pointing their rifles at your 75 year old grand mothers's head, what are you gonna do? are YOU going to say: "Oh how young you are? ", "You just look like my young brother" "I'm a mother too"


FUCK THAT!

If some of you disagree with my point of view , explain.
 
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ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!



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You're the one who misses the entire point. All ZOG military ops are fraudulent, unreal, a pack of lies that benefit no one but ZOG. If you are stupid enough to allow yourself to be used for ZOG's ends, you deserve whatever your dumb, flag waving ass gets. There is no honor in it at all. Not only do you deserve your fate, you should be held up as an example of a failure, dupe, tool, etc.
I Agree.

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You'd really like me to fuck your brains out, wouldn't you?
ROTFLOL!!!!!!!!!


Thanks Man,your posts just made my day!!!
 
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An illiterate high school drop out got killed, so?
 
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Most of all they are the words of immaturity.
Regarding the maturity of this 19 year old :

Not sure about that really, the way he faced his death is far more mature than most other people. And the fact that he wrote a letter imploring his parents to carry on with their life, and not spend it in constant sadness over his death, is a particularly noble thing on his part.

There are more people in this world, shit scared of the prospect of dying and for what? because they had not acquired their material desires? because they think their life somehow more significant than that of Alexander the Great or Achilles, whom themselves eventually fell victim to nature? Dying is a natural process just as birth is, this 19 year old faced his ending with courage one found lacking in many.

The more people we have who see life and death in such a way, the better off our position would be.

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I died doing what I was born to do I was happy and felt great about myself although the army was sadly the ending of me it was also the making of me so please don't feel any hate toward it.
A well-programmed ZOGbot never turns on its creator.

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