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Old February 15th, 2013 #81
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In 1941 the Germans started to mass kill first Slovene hostages in order to frighten the local people and prevent them to join the national resistance.



Those are not German Army uniforms. The light machine gun looks like the Czech type related to the British Bren[Brno Enfield].
 
Old February 15th, 2013 #82
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Kajtimar, I have shown you overwhelming evidence that the National Socialists viewed many Slavs as Aryans, the ones that weren't were the communist and Jewish associated ones, or the ones who opposed Germanisation.

Why is it so hard for you to grasp?

You try and show me evidence yet it shows nothing, you show me quotes from a philosopher who pretended to be Polish and not German, he wasn't even a National Socialist.

Do you know that Hitler wanted actually to take back parts of Poland under a friendly way first and offered peace many times between 1936-1939?

Jewish Bolshevism was and is the main enemy of any National Socialist, this was very popular and supported in eastern Europe which is why Hitler said they belong to it.

I also stated before, it dates back to his teenage years when he was in Vienna when Austria was under the Austria-Hungary dual monarchy and Austria had many other non-Austrian German ethnic groups there, Hitler was a German nationalist and did not want Austria to become Slavic.

I don't understand why you are saying that I am wrong - I am not.

There is not one quote or anything that Hitler or ANY National Socialist says that Slavs are not Aryan, just they were "subhuman" or "inferior" to Germanic people, I never doubted that.
 
Old February 15th, 2013 #83
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*Lol!*

Finnish people? Hungarian people? They are NOT Slavs, haha!

Speaking of Hungarians:

> Hungarians occupied the major part of Prekmurje.



Hungarians were implementing magyarisation in Slovenia.
Okay. According to you, Estonians, my people, are descended from Finns and use a Hungarian language, but Finns and Hungarians are not Slavic.

[/QUOTE]The Estonians are a Finnic people, and the official language, Estonian, is a Finno-Ugric language closely related to Finnish and to Hungarian.[/QUOTE]

Which is it sir? Also, I do not even understand the point of this entire thread except to cause dissent, as if there were not enough already. I do not see very much evidence that Hitler hated Slavs. They may not have been his favorite people but many Slavs fought alongside National Socialist Germany in WW2. Also, Wikipedia as a source is not the most reliable one, especially on race and ethnicity.

As for name calling, I believe I have called it as I see it.
 
Old February 15th, 2013 #84
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Nicolaus Copernicus

The National Socialists based their scientific weltanschauung on Nicolaus Copernicus' discovery that the Earth orbited the Sun. He was Polish and I assume Slavic.
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Old February 15th, 2013 #85
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Here's something from an antifa, and even he admits it:
http://www.ukemonde.com/zhydy/jewsandcommunism.html
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Not widely discussed in examinations of World War II is the fact that many eastern Europeans, including Ukrainians, Russians, Belarussians, and Baltic's, considered the 1941 German invasion of Russia, at least in its early stages, as liberation from Soviet communist oppression.
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Many prominent Soviet officials, including political Commissars, party officials, and NKVD agents would be rounded up and shot, as a form of vigilante justice and an inordinate number of these officials were Jews. Scores of Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarussians were motivated to join forces with the Germans in order to crush Stalin.
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It is an unpleasant fact that many of the worst Communists, those associated with many of the worst atrocities, were of Jewish background. Lavrenti Beria brought about the infamous Katyn massacre and other atrocities. Lazar Kaganovich, who personally claimed to be responsible for 20 million killed, stood atop the rubble of a Christian church proclaiming, "Mother Russia has been cast down, we have torn away her skirts!" Genrikh Yagoda sent hundreds of thousands to work on the Baltic Sea canal project where countless numbers of Russians, Ukrainians, and Baltic's perished. Natalfy Frenkel and Mathias Berman founded the infamous Gulag system, with camps commanded by figures such as Rappoport, Solz, and Spiegelglas, all of whom are mentioned at length in the work of Sozhenitzen. Ilya Ehrenburg, the World War II communist counterpart to Goebbels, incited Soviet troops to rape and maim German, Polish, and Czech women as a form of punishment.
My favorite story is, when Yagoda was on trial, him begging Stalin for his life like the little Jew sissy faggot pervert that he was.

/thread, you can leave now you antifa turd. You're not a real Slav.
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/thread, you can leave now you antifa turd. You're not a real Slav.
He's not one of us that's for sure.


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the "nation" is a social construct.
 
Old February 16th, 2013 #87
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Saying "Declares War", and "Boycotting Germany" are 2 different things. Declaring War means you intend to directly attack the said country in the future.

I'm not arguing that the Germans didn't shoot some Jews, my problem is with the 6 million number. As far as I'm concerned the Polish deserved it. If they knew they weren't in any position to defend themselves against Germany then they should have given into their demands which were really simple actually, return what belonged to Germany to begin with.
War is not just a military operation. It can mean anything, including an economic one. The Jews waged a economic war on Germany.

Look at the economic war that has been waged on Iran by the West.


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That is why the "nation" is a social construct.
No Nation is a political construct influenced by the ethnic group(s) living within those political boundaries
 
Old February 16th, 2013 #88
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Anyone who has read Mein Kampf knows he was anti Slav. BUT...we have a new situation wh re we dont really have the luxury of squabbling localy about our white neighbors and keeping our culture "all british" or even "german" anymore....... we need to be thrilled that they are not jews, chinks, or nigs.......

Its not about bei ng a sub culture of white for us now..... its about being simply WHITE.

So Hitlers ideals were correct they were just based on a different scale at a different time. His principles are still solid.... but the game has changed.
 
Old February 16th, 2013 #89
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Nicolaus Copernicus

The National Socialists based their scientific weltanschauung on Nicolaus Copernicus' discovery that the Earth orbited the Sun. He was Polish and I assume Slavic.
Copernicus was born in Poland, but the area he was in had been under Teutonic knights control before that. Historians today argue that he identified with no modern ethinicity ; being mainly "Prussian".
 
Old February 16th, 2013 #90
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That might explain it then....



Like someone else mentioned earlier, Goebbels' dated a Czech actress called Lida Baarova.
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Old February 16th, 2013 #91
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Can this please be moved out of the "Nazis: The facts" forum?

This sub forum is meant to portray exactly that, facts, not the whining of some neo-marxist anti-fa.
 
Old February 16th, 2013 #92
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The only Slavs Hitler hated were the non white looking Slavs, do you want me to start posting pictures of the non white looking Slavs?
 
Old February 17th, 2013 #93
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Anyone who has read Mein Kampf knows he was anti Slav. BUT...we have a new situation wh re we dont really have the luxury of squabbling localy about our white neighbors and keeping our culture "all british" or even "german" anymore....... we need to be thrilled that they are not jews, chinks, or nigs.......

Its not about bei ng a sub culture of white for us now..... its about being simply WHITE.

So Hitlers ideals were correct they were just based on a different scale at a different time. His principles are still solid.... but the game has changed.
There is nowhere in Mein Kampf that Hitler says that Slavs are non-Aryan or so much "inferior" what he does on about was the decline of Germans in the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Hitler in his book even calls Russians "great people" that the Jews had destroyed.

Many of Hitler's close friends or allies were Slavic.

Goebbels had a Czech girl but this is what the Daily Mail says:

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One of his conquests was Czech actress Lida Baarova, but his obsession with her angered Hitler because she was a racially 'inferior' Slav
Load of rubbish.

Hitler was heavily influenced by an Austrian Georg Ritter von Schönerer who was very anti-Slavism and a prominent of Pan-Germanism, you need to understand early 20th century politics to realise both Germanic peoples and Slavs had competition.

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The only Slavs Hitler hated were the non white looking Slavs, do you want me to start posting pictures of the non white looking Slavs?
Many of the commies were white.
 
Old February 17th, 2013 #94
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Hitler was heavily influenced by an Austrian Georg Ritter von Schönerer who was very anti-Slavism and a prominent of Pan-Germanism, you need to understand early 20th century politics to realise both Germanic peoples and Slavs had competition.
*Goebbels wanted to divorce his wife, and resign from his post as propaganda minister, in order to marry Lida Baarova, but Hitler objected to this. Not because Lida Baarova was Slavic, but because Goebbels was already a married man, and common knowledge of his infidelity would have been a propaganda disaster for the party, and losing Goebbels during the German war-effort was simply unthinkable.

* According to a BBC documentary I watched on TV.
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Old February 18th, 2013 #95
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*Goebbels wanted to divorce his wife, and resign from his post as propaganda minister, in order to marry Lida Baarova, but Hitler objected to this. Not because Lida Baarova was Slavic, but because Goebbels was already a married man, and common knowledge of his infidelity would have been a propaganda disaster for the party, and losing Goebbels during the German war-effort was simply unthinkable.

* According to a BBC documentary I watched on TV.
True, also the rumors of the Goebbels affair with the Czech Baarova broke right in the middle of the Sudetenland crisis (late summer 1938) involving the Czechs so this was considered disgraceful from a Nationalistic point of view. Baarova was married too and her husband was an actor and when he found out about the affair he punched Goebbels right in the face and knocked him down across the floor.
 
Old February 18th, 2013 #96
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Lot of embarrassingly stupid comments here, and I am not counting Kajtimars.

Just one example, If Hitler was so anti Slavic, as some claim, why didn't he leave Slavic Slovakia to the non Slavic Hungarians who wanted to fully occupy it?

Why not just divide Slovakia between Germany and Hungary? Nothing easier and more logical right?

Could have given Slavonia to Hungary as well.

Hitler may have been more of a 'chauvinist' in his early years, due mainly to the climate at the times and his experiences with the AH Empire, but he later evolved into a pan European leader who had people from every European nation fighting with him against international jewry.
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Old February 20th, 2013 #97
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Anyone who has read Mein Kampf knows he was anti Slav. BUT...we have a new situation wh re we dont really have the luxury of squabbling localy about our white neighbors and keeping our culture "all british" or even "german" anymore....... we need to be thrilled that they are not jews, chinks, or nigs.......

Its not about bei ng a sub culture of white for us now..... its about being simply WHITE.

So Hitlers ideals were correct they were just based on a different scale at a different time. His principles are still solid.... but the game has changed.
This is well put. Hitler's nationalism was based on the times. The times have changed and WNs have to change their thinking to White first, nationality or ethnicity second then everything else. If Hitler were alive today he would have undoubtedly thought like this. There is nothing wrong with being proud to be German, Greek, Estonian, English or Slav but be a proud White first and foremost.
 
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Just one example, If Hitler was so anti Slavic, as some claim, why didn't he leave Slavic Slovakia to the non Slavic Hungarians who wanted to fully occupy it?

Why not just divide Slovakia between Germany and Hungary? Nothing easier and more logical right?

Could have given Slavonia to Hungary as well.

Hitler may have been more of a 'chauvinist' in his early years, due mainly to the climate at the times and his experiences with the AH Empire, but he later evolved into a pan European leader who had people from every European nation fighting with him against international jewry.
That's my interpretation as well.

Plus, Hitler had a tendency to bash anyone. He said the French were as lazy and worthless as the Russians and that America was like a third world country with advanced technology. He said the Spanish were untrustworthy religious fanatics and the British were arrogant despite being in decline. He even said purebred Germanics were gullible and poor musicians.

It's hardly something to get upset about.
 
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Nazis launched the realization of genocide in Belarus since the first days of occupation.

List of destroyed Belorussian settlements by Nazis/Список уничтоженных нацистами населённых пунктов Белоруссии:

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_...BD.D0.B8.D1.8F

5,295 Belorussian settlements were burned by the Nazis together with all their inhabitants.

Wehrmacht Ober-Gefreite (lance-corporal) Iohannes Gerder used to write in his diary during the first months of staying in Belorussia:
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"August, 25. We throw grenades at houses where people live. The houses easily catch fire and burn down fast. Fire jumps over to other log huts. What a spectacular view! People cry and we laught at their tears. We have burnt about 10 villages this way.
August, 29. We grabbed 12 people who we came across in a village and took them to a cemetery. We made them dig a deep and ample grave for themselves.
There is no and there can be no mercy for the Slavs. Damned humanity is alien to us."






Хатынь memorial


Оver 2 000 000 people were killed in Belarus during the three years of Nazi occupation.

>Source: Vitali Silitski (May 2005). "Belarus: A Partisan Reality Show

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The Schutzmannschaft Batallion 118, reinforced by troops from the Dirlewanger Brigade, a unit mostly composed of criminals recruited for anti-partisan duties, entered the village and drove the inhabitants from their houses and into a shed, which was then covered with straw and set on fire. The trapped people managed to break down the front doors, but in trying to escape, were killed by machine gun fire. 149 people, including 75 children, were killed. The village was then looted and burned to the ground.


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В ответ на зверства оккупантов стали формироваться партизанские отряды. К концу 1941 года в рядах партизан сражались 12 000 человек в 230 отрядах. Численность белорусских партизан к концу войны превышала 374 тысяч человек. Они были объединены в 1255 отрядов, из которых 997 входили в состав 213 бригад и полков, а 258 отрядов действовали самостоятельно.

The cruelty of the Nazis caused formation of partisan groups. At the end of 1941 partisan movement was compromised of 12 000 people in 230 squads. The number of Belorussian partisans at the end of the war exceeded 374 000 people.

>Source: Коваленя А. А. и др. Великая Отечественная война советского народа (в контексте Второй мировой войны) / Под ред. А. А. Ковалени, Н. С. Сташкевича, пер. с бел. яз. А. В. Скорохода. — Мн.: Изд. центр БГУ, 2004. — 231 с. — 107 600 экз. — ISBN 985-476-239-4
 
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Are you ignorant of the movement in Russia or are you purposely trolling?
The biggest and most significant far right nationalist organization in Russia is Русское национальное единство. The official ideology of this party condemns Nazism and Hitler.

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Православный русский национализм, который трактуется в рамках особого предназначения русского народа и России перед Богом. Россия признается государством как русских, так и россиян (коренных неславянских народов России). РНЕ имеет относительные монархические симпатии, однако считает, что прежде возрождения самодержавия в России должна установиться Русская национальная диктатура (регентство). Законодательная власть должна строиться на основе сословно-национального представительства.
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Русское...B3.D0.B8.D1.8F

It's clearly Christian and pro-monarchy.

Showing me a picture of disorganized teen clowns giving a Roman salute does not prove much.

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Гитлер же для нас - преступник номер один. Во-первых, потому, что мы славяне, во-вторых, потому, что у нас воевали отцы и деды. У меня лично дед потерял ногу на войне. Поэтому как можно сравнивать нас с фашистами, национал-социалистами? Те, кто читал «Майн Кампф», знают, что последняя глава посвящена уничтожению славян. Как я могу почитать Гитлера, копировать что-то?!

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Oh, look. He is basically saying "a Slav cannot be a supporter of Hitler". Look for the reasons in this thread.


+ I post sources. Where are your sources, Neo-Nazis? You cannot possibly expect me to reply sourceless posts.
 
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