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Old December 12th, 2020 #41
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If you notice in my original post, I did not call you a kike, rather I identified your tactics as commonly-used by kikes.
I cannot agree to the monopolization of common sense by Jews alone.

For me, it's a common thing to go to a bakery for bread, go to a surgeon for surgery and go to a historian for historical facts.

I reject the opinion that only Jews can do this, I also do so and consider it a manifestation of common sense.

If there are doubts that the historian is writing the truth, then you need to check the facts that he cited.



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To expose kikes and/or kikery.
What you do is called labeling your opponent and not some kind of exposure.



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No, not all, only if the shoe fits.
As I can see, according to previous posts, shoes always fit.
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Old April 1st, 2021 #42
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At the moment I am responding to two posts (1, 2) of a person who is not able to understand that for communication I invited him to this topic.






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Okay..

1. Heard there's alien life in lake baikal
Baikal is located 2 thousand kilometers from me. I have not been there and therefore I can neither confirm it nor deny it.



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2. Bulgaian AKs are the best AKs!!
I am not a weapon tester and therefore I do not know anything about whose AKs is better.



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3. You should invite 'Brother John Trent' to Russia to experiance Russian girls.
I am sure we will be able to communicate with him without prompting from third parties.



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$. I only bang girls from Hungaria, Bulgaria, and Romania because outside of there girls don't like my jokes so they can fuck off!!
If you expect advice from me, I can suggest that you develop your sense of humor and then perhaps the territory of your sex life will expand to other countries.



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5. Russian Mafia are largely jews that's why I'm friends only with Bulgarian and Romanian.
I have no connection with the local and international underworld so I have nothing to say about this.



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6. Chechnians are a fucking nightmare!!!
I have never met with Chechens.

In any case, Kadyrov is better for Russia than Dudayev.



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7. Rasputin was amazing and might still be alive!!
I read several pages from his book.

In it, he appears as a sane religious person.



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Hey Alex Him.. Here's a picture of me with a Boss! Maybe you can tell me who he is?

His Father was big in the Soviet days..
This is the first time I see both of these faces.
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Old April 24th, 2021 #43
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Alex, why do you love communism so much??
I just admit that life in the Soviet Union had both advantages and disadvantages.

I have not written anywhere that I love unconditionally everything that was in the Soviet Union.



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Stalin (who wasn't even Russian) killed more of your own people than anyone else???
The scale of repression during his reign in the West is greatly exaggerated - https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=...5&postcount=15
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Old April 24th, 2021 #44
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Here I am answering a question from this thread - https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=...6&postcount=99


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Mommy and daddy babyboomers are going to stick up for you?? You are a communist bolschevic relic of an era I don't want anything to do with!!!

I hate commies!!!

Hey mom and dad.. how's NO retirement sound?? The college/university loans heve dryed up so who's tits are you going to suck on now????
Please don't hold back.

Let all the pus of your soul come out into the light.
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Old April 24th, 2021 #45
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I just admit that life in the Soviet Union had both advantages and disadvantages.
Socialism works if it is racial. See what say about socialism one of the top WN author Klassen in Nature's Eternal Religion in chapture about "Racial Socialism" however he rather advocate private property. I think that is China perfect example of strong racial collectivism even if they are not officially racial. My ex-communist state have lot of advantages for working and middle class who have high reproduction such as guaranteed housing issue. It is impossible in capitalism where you have one owner and worker can not have it as in Germany today for example. They are really small differences between Stalin and Hitler,both were socialist with diferrent variations and if you want to provoke some leftist,just tell them this as pact Hitler-Stalin about Poland question. Rich members of our race want cheap labor today as in past and then you have revolution of working class whose product of course depends about genetic what means that united working class union what communists wanted can not work as they think.

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Old April 24th, 2021 #46
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Socialism works if it is racial. See what say about socialism one of the top WN author Klassen in Nature's Eternal Religion in chapture about "Racial Socialism" however he rather advocate private property.
I doubt that it can work anywhere for a long enough time, for example, for several generations.



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I think that is China perfect example of strong racial collectivism even if they are not officially racial.
I don't know enough to judge life in China.



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My ex-communist state have lot of advantages for working and middle class who have high reproduction such as guaranteed housing issue. It is impossible in capitalism where you have one owner and worker can not have it as in Germany today for example.
I agree with you.

My father worked for several years at a factory and received an apartment from it.

However, not everyone was so lucky, some people who had only a room in an apartment were in line for an apartment for years.



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They are really small differences between Stalin and Hitler,both were socialist with diferrent variations and if you want to provoke some leftist,just tell them this as pact Hitler-Stalin about Poland question.
Did the big German industrialists somehow suffer under Hitler?



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Rich members of our race want cheap labor today as in past
If you pay your employees more then
1) you will receive less profit, and therefore lose in development to competitors;
2) you will bring down the labor market and other rich people will look at you with displeasure.



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and then you have revolution of working class whose product of course depends about genetic what means that united working class union what communists wanted can not work as they think.
I believe that since the beginning of capitalism, genetics has not mattered.

After all, capitalism has rejected all the nobility of noble blood.

And the business owner does not necessarily have better genetics than the workers in his business.
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Old April 24th, 2021 #47
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Did the big German industrialists somehow suffer under Hitler?
Yes because they had forced compromise of centralization all their decissions under control by Hitler's working party. Today you have crony capitalists behind elite business clubs who brink special laws of protection on market just for their buddies. I disagree that you will lost on market if you pay workers more because if you pay them less,you will have working class revolutions what mean that you can say goodbye with your business. For example,SA lads want's to liquidate German rich upper class under Ernst Röhm and true conservatives always make critique of NS because of socialist views of society.

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Old April 25th, 2021 #48
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Yes because they had forced compromise of centralization all their decissions under control by Hitler's working party. Today you have crony capitalists behind elite business clubs who brink special laws of protection on market just for their buddies.
Please name the non-Jewish industrialists who suffered from Hitler's actions.

In my opinion, Hitler was a protégé of the German industrialists, not a fighter against them - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrielleneingabe



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I disagree that you will lost on market if you pay workers more because if you pay them less,you will have working class revolutions what mean that you can say goodbye with your business. For example,SA lads want's to liquidate German rich upper class under Ernst Röhm and true conservatives always make critique of NS because of socialist views of society.
If you increase the salaries of your workers, then you must be sure that other entrepreneurs will also increase the salaries of their workers. If this does not happen and only you increase the salaries of your workers, then you will lose in the competition.

Therefore, there is no opportunity for entrepreneurs to carry out such actions personally, they can do this only from the government level by introducing general rules for entrepreneurs in the country.

Of course, the governments of the capitalist countries reacted to the fact that after 1917 there was an example to follow in the form of a revolution in Russia and were more willing to make some concessions to the workers.
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Old April 25th, 2021 #49
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In my opinion, Hitler was a protégé of the German industrialists, not a fighter against them - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrielleneingabe
Yes he allow industrialists but he also gave to them high taxes and conservatives advocate low taxes. Some conservatives and liberals claim that is NS left wing ideology because of this. Same opinion have I also. NSDAP is according to me patriarchal left-wing party.

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If you increase the salaries of your workers, then you must be sure that other entrepreneurs will also increase the salaries of their workers. If this does not happen and only you increase the salaries of your workers, then you will lose in the competition.
It is example of gentenmanly agreement or business cartel. Yes,it is economy of post-communist capitalists who works in ex-communist lands including mine but not in develop capitalist societies. Price on market is not fixed for customer nor for competition among industrialists but I understand why you told this to me because you are Russian and it is policy of White mafia.
 
Old April 25th, 2021 #50
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Yes he allow industrialists but he also gave to them high taxes and conservatives advocate low taxes. Some conservatives and liberals claim that is NS left wing ideology because of this. Same opinion have I also. NSDAP is according to me patriarchal left-wing party.
The entrepreneur transforms all his costs (including tax) into an increase in the price of goods for the client. So the client is ultimately hurt by these economic policies.



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It is example of gentenmanly agreement or business cartel. Yes,it is economy of post-communist capitalists who works in ex-communist lands including mine but not in develop capitalist societies. Price on market is not fixed for customer nor for competition among industrialists but I understand why you told this to me because you are Russian and it is policy of White mafia.
I tried to show you that the ordinary entrepreneur in the vast majority of cases does not act as you imagine.

The main thing that an ordinary entrepreneur prefers to do is to reduce the wages of workers, thereby increasing his profits.

Because profit maximization is the very essence of entrepreneurial activity.

But let's say we are considering an extremely rare type of entrepreneur who is going to take into account the experience of historical events in the form of revolutions of the 20th century in his activities.

I tried to show you that on this path he will face objective difficulties that do not depend on the fact that I am Russian from a post-communist country.

The main difficulty is that he will become less competitive by lowering its profits by raising workers' wages.
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Old April 25th, 2021 #51
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Why did Stalin vote for a Jewish state?

"Andrei Gromyko, Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin’s representative at the United Nations, stunned the world on November 29, 1947, during the debate on the partition of Palestine into an Arab state and a Jewish state."

https://www.jpost.com/opinion/why-di...h-state-649917

stalin was a Georgian jew!!
Have you read this article before giving us a link to it?

Don't worry, I'll help you read it.



"Yet, Joseph Stalin was no friend of Jewish nationalism."


"The Bolsheviks rejected any form of national identity – the Bund, Judaism or Zionism – as reactionary, unless it served the USSR as a worker’s paradise or suited their political needs, as it did during WWII and the later UN partition.

The Yevsektsiya, the Jewish section of the propaganda department of the Russian Communist Party from 1918 to 1930, had the goal of using Yiddish to integrate Soviet Jews into the state ideology. The department shut down synagogues, closed yeshivot and tightly controlled the printing of books of Jewish interest. At the same time, they promoted Yiddish culture and declared an autonomous Jewish region in Birobidzhan on the Manchurian border. But this was all done to force the Jews to cede their identity and to follow the Soviet line.

In 1928, Zionism was banned from the Soviet Union. Zionist leaders in the USSR were imprisoned, sent to the gulag, or exiled to Siberia."


"The dictator of the USSR reversed course and liquidated Yiddish schools, publishing houses and theaters in the 1930s. During World War II he exploited prominent Jews in the Soviet Union to travel to America to enlist support for the war against Germany, only to execute many of them after the war.

In one night in August 1952 he executed Jews who were leaders in Soviet society – all supporters of Stalin – for treason. He condemned the Jews as “rootless cosmopolitans” who had no loyalty to the Soviet state."


"His heirs in Soviet leadership were committed to give the Arabs all the weapons they needed to destroy the State of Israel."


"The Soviet UN vote helped Israel for a moment in time. That was all."



From reading the article, I got the impression that the USSR was an anti-Jewish state and Stalin did not like Jews.

What is your impression after reading this article?




Now about Gromyko's speech. Here is its text from the UN website:

Mr. GROMYKO (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) (translated from Russian):

The course of the discussion, both in the plenary meetings of the General Assembly and in the First Committee, has shown that the Palestine question has become an acute political problem. Apparently, this opinion is shared by all the delegations which took part in the discussion. This conclusion is supported by the very fact that this question is being discussed by the United Nations.

However, the fact that the Palestine question has become a subject of discussion in the General Assembly not only shows that the question is acute, but also imposes upon the United Nations the responsibility for its solution. This fact obliges us to study the question carefully from every angle; and we should be guided by the purposes and principles of our Organization and by the interests of the maintenance of peace and international security.

The course of the discussion has also shown that at this special session of the Assembly it is apparently difficult to take any definite and, still more, any final decision on the substance of the problem. Thus, the discussion at this session can be considered only as the initial stage of the consideration of the Palestine problem. In the opinion of all the delegations, the General Assembly will have to take a decision on the substance of this question at its next regular session at the end of 1947.

Nevertheless, the discussion has shown that the delegations of a number of States considered it useful to exchange views on certain important aspects of the Palestine question at this session. The discussion, even though incomplete, of certain important aspects of this question has been useful. In the first place, it has enabled delegations to gain a better knowledge of the facts relating to the Palestine question and, in particular, to the situation which has developed in that country at the present time. In the second place, such a discussion, although it is of a preliminary nature, lightens the task of defining the functions and direction of the work of the committee which we are about to establish for the purpose of preparing proposals on the substance of the question for the regular session of the General Assembly.

In discussing the Palestine question, even in a preliminary fashion, and in discussing the tasks and functions of the afore-mentioned committee, we cannot fail to note, first of all, the important fact that the mandatory system of administration of Palestine, established in 1922, has not justified itself. It has not passed the test. It is hardly possible to contest the accuracy of this conclusion. It is an indisputable fact that the aims laid down at the time of the establishment of the mandate have not been achieved. The solemn declarations which accompanied the establishment of the mandatory system of administration of Palestine have remained declarations and have not been transformed into facts.

The conclusion that the mandatory system of administration of Palestine has not justified itself is confirmed by the whole history of the administration of Palestine on the basis of this system, not to mention the confirmation of this conclusion by the situation which has developed in that country at the present time. In this connexion, it may be recalled that in 1937 the British Peel Commission, after studying the Palestine situation, declared that it was impossible to carry out the mandate. Such a conclusion was also reached by the Permanent Mandates Commission of the League of Nations, which also pointed out the "impossibility" of implementing the Palestine mandate. The committee we are about to set up should ascertain the historical facts relating to this question.

Many other facts relating to the history of the mandatory administration of Palestine could be adduced to confirm the bankruptcy of this system of administration. It is hardly necessary, however, to enumerate these facts in detail. In this connexion, for instance, it is enough to mention the Arab uprising which took place in 1936 and continued for several years. There are also enough facts relating to the situation existing in Palestine at the present time to confirm the aforementioned conclusion. We all know of the sanguinary events taking place in Palestine. Such events are becoming more and more frequent.

For this reason, these events are attracting increasing attention from the peoples of the world and, above all, from the United Nations. This question is being considered by the General Assembly as a direct result of the bankruptcy of the mandatory system of administration of Palestine, which has led to an extreme aggravation of the situation and to sanguinary events in that country. The very fact that the United Kingdom Government itself submitted this question for the consideration of the General Assembly is extremely indicative. This fact can only be considered as an admission that it is impossible for the existing situation in Palestine to continue. The special committee should make a careful study of the situation at present prevailing in Palestine.

It is well known that representatives of the United Kingdom Government have stated, at various times, even before the question was submitted to the General Assembly, that the mandatory system of administration of Palestine has not justified itself and that the solution of the problem of how to deal with Palestine should be found by the United Nations. Thus, for instance, Mr. Bevin made the following statement in the House of Commons on 18 February 1947:

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"We intend to place before them [the United Nations] a historical account of the way in which His Majesty's Government have discharged their trust in Palestine over the last twenty-five years. We shall explain that the mandate has proved to be unworkable in practice and that the obligations undertaken to the two communities in Palestine have been shown to be irreconcilable."
This statement by the British Foreign Minister directly and openly recognizes the real situation which has been brought about by the mandatory administration of Palestine. It is an admission that this administration did not solve the question of mutual relations between the Arabs and the Jews, which is one of the most important and acute questions, and that this administration has not ensured the achievement of the aims laid down when the mandate was established.

The existing form of government, as Mr. Bevin has affirmed, is acceptable neither to the Arab population nor to the Jewish population of Palestine. Both the Arabs and the Jews protest against it. It has never enjoyed, and does not enjoy the support of the peoples of Palestine; and without such support it can only lead to further difficulties and complexities in the situation. Concerning the attitude of the Arab and Jewish populations towards the mandatory system of administration of Palestine, the British Foreign Minister stated in his speech to the House of Commons on 26 February 1947 that the Palestine administration was faced with an extremely difficult task, did not enjoy the support of the people and was subjected to criticism from both sides.

The committee we are about to set up cannot fail to take into account the conclusions reached by the United Kingdom Government itself concerning the results of the mandatory administration of Palestine.

It is well known that it is not only the United Kingdom Government which has reached this conclusion. For instance, the so-called Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry on Palestine, which studied the question in 1946, came to a conclusion which was essentially the same. This Committee's report on the prevailing situation in Palestine contains the following passage:

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"Palestine is an armed camp. We saw signs of this almost as soon as we crossed the frontier and we became more and more aware of the tense atmosphere each day. Many buildings have barbed wire and other defences. We ourselves were closely guarded by armed police and were often escorted by armoured cars ... throughout the country there are substantially built police barracks."1/
[See Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry--Report to the United States Government and His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom, chapter IX, section 1. Lausanne, Switzerland, 1946.]


That is how the Anglo-American Committee described the position in Palestine. Its description of the situation is still another proof of the results of the mandatory administration of Palestine. That Palestine, as the Committee states, has become "an armed camp" is a fact which speaks for itself. In such circumstances, there can be no serious talk of defending the interests of the population of Palestine, of improving the material conditions of its existence, or of raising its cultural level.

The same Anglo-American Committee pointed out the following extremely interesting facts:

The total number of persons in full-time employment in the police and prison administration reached 15,000 in 1945. This figure is extremely indicative. It explains to us how the considerable funds, which are a burden on the population, are expended. In other circumstances, these funds might be used in the interests of the economic and cultural development of the country and in the interests of its population. Here is another fact. In 1944-45, 18,400,000 U. S. dollars were spent on the maintenance of "law and order". In the same financial year, only 2,200,000 U. S. dollars were spent on health measures, and 2,800,000 U. S. dollars on education.

In citing these figures, the Anglo-American Committee came to the following noteworthy conclusion:

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"Thus, even from a budgetary point of view, Palestine has developed into a semi-military or police State."2/
[See Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry--Report to the United States Government and His Majesty's Government in the United Kingdom, chapter III, section 4.]


The above-mentioned facts from the report of the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry on Palestine, are of considerable interest in describing the situation prevailing in Palestine, and must lead us to consider seriously how the existing situation can be rectified and how a solution of the Palestine problem can be found in conformity with the interests of its peoples and also with the general interests of the United Nations. The task of the special committee should be to help the United Nations to achieve such a solution of the problem by studying the actual situation in Palestine on the spot.

Is it surprising, in view of the situation prevailing in Palestine, that both the Jews and the Arabs demand the termination of the mandate? They are fully agreed on this; there is no disagreement between them on this point. The United Nations must take this fact into account when it considers the question of Palestine's future.

In discussing the question of the task of the committee for the preparation of proposals on Palestine, we must take into account another important aspect of this question. As we know, the aspirations of a considerable part of the Jewish people are linked with the problem of Palestine and of its future administration. This fact scarcely requires proof. It is not surprising, therefore, that great attention was given to this aspect of the question, both in the General Assembly and at the meetings of the First Committee. Interest in this aspect is understandable and fully justified.

During the last war, the Jewish people underwent exceptional sorrow and suffering. Without any exaggeration, this sorrow and suffering are indescribable. It is difficult to express them in dry statistics on the Jewish victims of the fascist aggressors. The Jews in territories where the Hitlerites held sway were subjected to almost complete physical annihilation. The total number of members of the Jewish population who perished at the hands of the nazi executioners is estimated at approximately six million. Only about a million and a half Jews in Western Europe survived the war.

But these figures, although they give an idea of the number of victims of the fascist aggressors among the Jewish people, give no idea of the difficulties in which large numbers of Jewish people found themselves after the war.

Large numbers of the surviving Jews of Europe were deprived of their countries, their homes and their means of existence. Hundreds of thousands of Jews are wandering about in various countries of Europe in search of means of existence and in search of shelter. A large number of them are in camps for displaced persons and are still continuing to undergo great privations. To these privations our attention was drawn in particular by the representative of the Jewish Agency, whom we heard in the First Committee.

It may well be asked if the United Nations, in view of the difficult situation of hundreds of thousands of the surviving Jewish population, can fail to show an interest in the situation of these people, torn away from their countries and their homes. The United Nations cannot and must not regard this situation with indifference, since this would be incompatible with the high principles proclaimed in its Charter, which provide for the defence of human rights, irrespective of race, religion or sex. The time has come to help these people, not by word, but by deeds. It is essential to show concern for the urgent needs of a people which has undergone such great suffering as a result of the war brought about by hitlerite Germany. This is a duty of the United Nations.

In view of the necessity of manifesting concern for the needs of the Jewish people who find themselves without homes and without means of existence, the delegation of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics thinks it essential, in this connexion, to draw the attention of the General Assembly to the following important circumstance. Past experience, particularly during the Second World War, shows that no western European State was able to provide adequate assistance for the Jewish people in defending its rights and its very existence from the violence of the Hitlerites and their allies. This is an unpleasant fact, but unfortunately, like all other facts, it must be admitted.

The fact that no western European State has been able to ensure the defence of the elementary rights of the Jewish people, and to safeguard it against the violence of the fascist executioners, explains the aspirations of the Jews to establish their own State. It would be unjust not to take this into consideration and to deny the right of the Jewish people to realize this aspiration. It would be unjustifiable to deny this right to the Jewish people, particularly in view of all it has undergone during the Second World War. Consequently, the study of this aspect of the problem and the preparation of relevant proposals must constitute an important task of the special committee.

I shall now deal with a fundamental question in connexion with the discussion of the tasks and powers of the committee we are about to set up, that is, the question of Palestine's future. It is well known that there are many different plans regarding the future of Palestine and regarding the decisions of the Jewish people in connexion with the Palestine question. In particular, several proposals were drawn up in connexion with this question by the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry on Palestine, to which I have referred. Among the better-known plans on the question of the future administration of Palestine, I should like to mention the following:

1. The establishment of a single Arab-Jewish State, with equal rights for Arabs and Jews;

2. The partition of Palestine into two independent States, one Arab and one Jewish;

3. The establishment of an Arab State in Palestine, without due regard for the rights of the Jewish population;

4. The establishment of a Jewish State in Palestine, without due regard for the rights of the Arab population.

Each of these four basic plans has, in turn, different variants for regulating relations between the Arabs and the Jews and for settling certain other problems. I shall not analyse all these plans in detail at the present time. The Soviet Union will explain its position on the various plans in greater detail when definite proposals are prepared and considered and, more particularly, when decisions are taken on the future of Palestine. For the time being, I shall confine myself to a few remarks on the substance of the proposed plans, from the point of view of defining the committee's tasks in that field.

In analysing the various plans for the future of Palestine, it is essential, first of all, to bear in mind the specific aspects of this question. It is essential to bear in mind the indisputable fact that the population of Palestine consists of two peoples, the Arabs and the Jews. Both have historical roots in Palestine. Palestine has become the homeland of both these peoples, each of which plays an important part in the economy and the cultural life of the country.

Neither the historic past nor the conditions prevailing in Palestine at present can justify any unilateral solution of the Palestine problem, either in favour of establishing an independent Arab State, without consideration for the legitimate rights of the Jewish people, or in favour of the establishment of an independent Jewish State, while ignoring the legitimate rights of the Arab population. Neither of these extreme decisions would achieve an equitable solution of this complicated problem, especially since neither would ensure the settlement of relations between the Arabs and the Jews, which constitutes the most important task.

An equitable solution can be reached only if sufficient consideration is given to the legitimate interests of both these peoples. All this leads the Soviet delegation to the conclusion that the legitimate interests of both the Jewish and Arab populations of Palestine can be duly safeguarded only through the establishment of an independent, dual, democratic, homogeneous Arab-Jewish State. Such a State must be based on equality of rights for the Jewish and the Arab populations, which might lay foundations of co-operation between these two peoples to their mutual interest and advantage. It is well known that this plan for the solution of Palestine's future has its supporters in that country itself.

Contemporary history provides examples not only of the racial and religious discrimination which, unfortunately, still exists in certain countries. It also gives us examples of the peaceful collaboration of different nationalities within the framework of a single State, in the course of which collaboration each nationality has unlimited possibilities for contributing its labour and showing its talents within the framework of a single State and in the common interests of all the people. Is it not obvious that it would be extremely useful, in reaching a decision on the Palestine problem, to take into consideration existing examples of such friendly co-existence and brotherly co-operation among various nationalities within a single State?

Thus, the solution of the Palestine problem by the establishment of a single Arab-Jewish State with equal rights for the Jews and the Arabs may be considered as one of the possibilities and one of the more noteworthy methods for the solution of this complicated problem. Such a solution of the problem of Palestine's future might be a sound foundation for the peaceful co-existence and co-operation of the Arab and Jewish populations of Palestine, in the interests of both these peoples and to the advantage of the entire Palestine population and of the peace and security of the Near East.

If this plan proved impossible to implement, in view of the deterioration in the relations between the Jews and the Arabs--and it will be very important to know the special committee's opinion on this question--then it would be necessary to consider the second plan which, like the first, has its supporters in Palestine, and which provides for the partition of Palestine into two independent autonomous States, one Jewish and one Arab. I repeat that such a solution of the Palestine problem would be justifiable only if relations between the Jewish and Arab populations of Palestine indeed proved to be so bad that it would be impossible to reconcile them and to ensure the peaceful co-existence of the Arabs and the Jews.

Of course, both these possible plans for the solution of the problem of Palestine's future must be studied by the committee. Its task must be a multilateral and careful discussion of the plans for the administration of Palestine, with a view to submitting, to the next regular session of the General Assembly, some well-considered and reasoned proposals, which would help the United Nations to reach a just solution of this problem in conformity with the interests of the peoples of Palestine, the interests of the United Nations and our common interest in the maintenance of peace and international security.

Such are the considerations which the Soviet delegation thought necessary to express at this initial stage of the consideration of the Palestine problem.


The text was taken from - https://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0...2566190059E5F0




As for Stalin's nationality, you can see the documents here and in further posts on this topic - https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=...8&postcount=23
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Actually Alex I did read the article before I posted it! All over the World jews seem to love stalin and communism, but in their usual fashion the jews then pretend they were 'victims' of his regime!!

The rothschilds out of London financed the bolchevics (who were jews) and led down the line to stalin!!
 
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Actually Alex I did read the article before I posted it! All over the World jews seem to love stalin and communism, but in their usual fashion the jews then pretend they were 'victims' of his regime!!
I think that "All over the World jews seem to love" Hitler and Nazism, "but in their usual fashion the jews then pretend they were 'victims' of his regime!!"

As you understand, this is only your interpretation of the meaning of the article and it must be supported by evidence, because other interpretations of this article are possible (for example, that only what the author of the article thought is written here).



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The rothschilds out of London financed the bolchevics (who were jews) and led down the line to stalin!!
I look forward to your posting documents here to prove it.
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No I'm done Alex! I'm not going to post on your threads anymore! In true communist fashion you cry for the "moderators" when I post on your autistic threads, then 'baby boomer' mommy and daddy have to help you to find them...

Have fun promoting jewish bolschivicism!!!
 
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No I'm done Alex! I'm not going to post on your threads anymore! In true communist fashion you cry for the "moderators" when I post on your autistic threads, then 'baby boomer' mommy and daddy have to help you to find them...
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"Judaism has held its own alongside Christianity, not only as religious criticism of Christianity, not only as the embodiment of doubt in the religious derivation of Christianity, but equally because the practical Jewish spirit, Judaism, has maintained itself and even attained its highest development in Christian society. The Jew, who exists as a distinct member of civil society, is only a particular manifestation of the Judaism of civil society.

Judaism continues to exist not in spite of history, but owing to history.

The Jew is perpetually created by civil society from its own entrails.

What, in itself, was the basis of the Jewish religion? Practical need, egoism.

The monotheism of the Jew, therefore, is in reality the polytheism of the many needs, a polytheism which makes even the lavatory an object of divine law. Practical need, egoism, is the principle of civil society, and as such appears in pure form as soon as civil society has fully given birth to the political state. The god of practical need and self-interest is money.

Money is the jealous god of Israel, in face of which no other god may exist. Money degrades all the gods of man – and turns them into commodities. Money is the universal self-established value of all things. It has, therefore, robbed the whole world – both the world of men and nature – of its specific value. Money is the estranged essence of man’s work and man’s existence, and this alien essence dominates him, and he worships it.

The god of the Jews has become secularized and has become the god of the world. The bill of exchange is the real god of the Jew. His god is only an illusory bill of exchange.

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Judaism could not develop further as a religion, could not develop further theoretically, because the world outlook of practical need is essentially limited and is completed in a few strokes.

By its very nature, the religion of practical need could find its consummation not in theory, but only in practice, precisely because its truth is practice.

Judaism could not create a new world; it could only draw the new creations and conditions of the world into the sphere of its activity, because practical need, the rationale of which is self-interest, is passive and does not expand at will, but finds itself enlarged as a result of the continuous development of social conditions.

Judaism reaches its highest point with the perfection of civil society, but it is only in the Christian world that civil society attains perfection. Only under the dominance of Christianity, which makes all national, natural, moral, and theoretical conditions extrinsic to man, could civil society separate itself completely from the life of the state, sever all the species-ties of man, put egoism and selfish need in the place of these species-ties, and dissolve the human world into a world of atomistic individuals who are inimically opposed to one another.

Christianity sprang from Judaism. It has merged again in Judaism.

From the outset, the Christian was the theorizing Jew, the Jew is, therefore, the practical Christian, and the practical Christian has become a Jew again.

Christianity had only in semblance overcome real Judaism. It was too noble-minded, too spiritualistic to eliminate the crudity of practical need in any other way than by elevation to the skies.

Christianity is the sublime thought of Judaism, Judaism is the common practical application of Christianity, but this application could only become general after Christianity as a developed religion had completed theoretically the estrangement of man from himself and from nature.

Only then could Judaism achieve universal dominance and make alienated man and alienated nature into alienable, vendible objects subjected to the slavery of egoistic need and to trading.

Selling [verausserung] is the practical aspect of alienation [Entausserung]. Just as man, as long as he is in the grip of religion, is able to objectify his essential nature only by turning it into something alien, something fantastic, so under the domination of egoistic need he can be active practically, and produce objects in practice, only by putting his products, and his activity, under the domination of an alien being, and bestowing the significance of an alien entity – money – on them.

In its perfected practice, Christian egoism of heavenly bliss is necessarily transformed into the corporal egoism of the Jew, heavenly need is turned into world need, subjectivism into self-interest. We explain the tenacity of the Jew not by his religion, but, on the contrary, by the human basis of his religion – practical need, egoism.

Since in civil society the real nature of the Jew has been universally realized and secularized, civil society could not convince the Jew of the unreality of his religious nature, which is indeed only the ideal aspect of practical need. Consequently, not only in the Pentateuch and the Talmud, but in present-day society we find the nature of the modern Jew, and not as an abstract nature but as one that is in the highest degree empirical, not merely as a narrowness of the Jew, but as the Jewish narrowness of society.

Once society has succeeded in abolishing the empirical essence of Judaism – huckstering and its preconditions – the Jew will have become impossible, because his consciousness no longer has an object, because the subjective basis of Judaism, practical need, has been humanized, and because the conflict between man’s individual-sensuous existence and his species-existence has been abolished.

The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism."



Karl Marx - "On The Jewish Question"
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Marx represented malware who looks like software. Jews put inside Russia idea who is against Judaism as their banksters financed NSDAP (
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Marx represented malware who looks like software. Jews put inside Russia idea who is against Judaism as their banksters financed NSDAP ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement) who is also against them but finally all goys lost and Jews won in tactic of their intelligence. They had crushed Russian Empire who was second Rome,create holohoax industry and put racial segregated laws outside White western antifa societies after ww2.
Why do you write "all goys lost"?

Did the Russians really lose from the fact that they threw out the Nazi troops from their territory, who robbed the cities and destroyed their population?
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Did the Russians really lose from the fact that they threw out the Nazi troops from their territory, who robbed the cities and destroyed their population?
Russians had lost in Bolshevik revolution but I will not blame Jews because it was result of weak leadership where 500 000 bolsheviks according to Lothrop Stoddard conquer Russian Empire. Communism was international and not national ideology especially in USSR. I am southern Slav and my position of argument in Hitler-Stalin conflict is next: all intelligent Slavs fought for Hitler including Russians who had been part of White army. Yes,Slavs if you want,definitely lost war against international multiracial bolshevism and christian western antifa hordes.
Do you know why Hitler attack Stalin? Because Stalin knew that is Hitler weak especially when Great Britain and France had declared war to Germany and he was ready for attack them from east.

The proof for that is that he conquer eastern Germany and long before war,communists try to expand their ideology not just in Germany than in other part of Europe including Spain where they lost by Franco. All goys lost because we had lost our White population as territories while Israel was established with attacking USS Liberty,British Palestine and still today our best White elements fought for them against their enemies because they have their mind program as Christianity. If you are WN,only what is important in ww2 question who is pro-White or anti-White. This is all,there is not place here supporting anti-White policy does not matter about national history of our members. National Socialism is today fallen horse and instead of this we need racial socialism. About economy and other questions we can speek later,it is only important that we have pro-White government.

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Russians had lost in Bolshevik revolution but I will not blame Jews because it was result of weak leadership where 500 000 bolsheviks according to Lothrop Stoddard conquer Russian Empire. Communism was international and not national ideology especially in USSR. I am southern Slav and my position of argument in Hitler-Stalin conflict is next: all intelligent Slavs fought for Hitler including Russians who had been part of White army. Yes,Slavs if you want,definitely lost war against international multiracial bolshevism and christian western antifa hordes.
Do I understand you correctly that the Russians would benefit from the fact that the Germans killed them?



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Do you know why Hitler attack Stalin? Because Stalin knew that is Hitler weak especially when Great Britain and France had declared war to Germany and he was ready for attack them from east.
Remember how many European countries were captured by Germany by the summer of 1941.

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The proof for that is that he conquer eastern Germany and long before war,communists try to expand their ideology not just in Germany than in other part of Europe including Spain where they lost by Franco. All goys lost because we had lost our White population as territories while Israel was established with attacking USS Liberty,British Palestine and still today our best White elements fought for them against their enemies because they have their mind program as Christianity. If you are WN,only what is important in ww2 question who is pro-White or anti-White.
Communists anywhere in the world tried to spread their ideology and the example of East Germany in this case proves nothing.



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This is all,there is not place here supporting anti-White policy does not matter about national history of our members. National Socialism is today fallen horse and instead of this we need racial socialism. About economy and other questions we can speek later,it is only important that we have pro-White government.
You are proposing to discard the history of our countries.

But what about the present tense?

What race do the inhabitants of these NATO member countries belong to?

Albania
Belgium
Bulgaria
Canada
Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia
France
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Iceland
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Luxembourg
Montenegro
Netherlands
North Macedonia
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
Slovakia
Slovenia
Spain
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States

I seriously doubt that the Russians at the moment will find out what race were the people who came to their land with weapons.
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Do I understand you correctly that the Russians would benefit from the fact that the Germans killed them?
Which Russians? Some Russians fought for Hitler. Slavs who fought for Hitler were pro-White while Slavs who fought against Hitler were anti-White. USSR did not care about Russians because they advocate international mongrel state. I do not want to attack you because of your opinion,somethimes is hard to using side especially when you know that your ancestors fought against Hitler and I think that it is case of lot members here.

You know,for one side is Hitler conqueror for second liberator from communism. It is better living in his pan-germanistic state instead of international communist state full of mongrels. Better european elements among each nations where Germans came had seen reality of anti-communist alliance because Stalin wanted ton conquer whole world with communism with "The Internationale" as their athem. Same propaganda against Hitler exists in our Slavic school system against Hitler but instead of me,you accepted it. I think that it is better question for you next: do you support Russian Empire or Bolsheviks?

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I think that it is reality unfortunately. It is possible that will Whites in future having just one state and keep in mind that we here look only biology where all white nations have same ancestors and not national flags with non-whites. It is main difference between White nationalism and nationalism of 19. century.

Hitler and NS is past and we must look forward. We must unite all best elements of our race into one strong force without making competitions among themselves. It is big picture and I hope that you will see this one day. About NATO vs Russia,both of them are not pro-white so WN who are using between those two is according to me person who represent himself for something what he is not. Yes Putin is best solution for Russia but his policy can not help you on long step. I know about what I am talking about because I am coming from state who had same president as he is.

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