Electromagnetic pulse attack / EMP attack

[jagd messer]

Electromagnetic pulse attack / EMP attack




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Possible scenarios following an EMP event

Electromagnetic pulses (EMPs), such as solar (also known as coronal mass ejections, or CMEs), nuclear (as a result of a high-altitude explosion) or non-nuclear (caused by weapons that generate a strong electromagnetic field without using a nuclear explosion), can have similarly significant effects.

Prepper or not, it is important that you examine what may happen during the period immediately following an EMP event and understand its dangers so you can have a plan in place on how to protect yourself and your family from the aftermath.

Power outages

An EMP event would destroy the electronics and digital circuitry in the areas of impact – denying electric power to homes, businesses and the military. Business, financial, health and transportation systems are all dependent on electricity, as pointed out by Dr. William Graham, chair of the EMP Commission.

Entire cities would be without electricity for weeks or even months. This means no lights, no heaters, fans or air conditioners, no freezers or refrigerators for food and no televisions, radios and other electronic devices. (Related: 10 things that will still work after an electromagnetic pulse attack.)

The more time passes without electricity, the more stores (corner shops, convenience stores, food marts, mom-and-pop stores, supermarkets and pharmacies) will close their doors for business.

Communication failures

Many personal electronic devices would be rendered inoperable, including laptops or personal computers, mobile phones and radios. This would mean no access to information, inability to communicate with others and no way to provide assistance to those in need or coordinate a response.

Transportation disruptions

Air, sea, road and rail transportation that enable mobility would be affected. This would mean no way to go home to your family, no way to evacuate affected areas, no way to travel for medical assistance and no way to transport food and supplies.

While a vehicle’s metal shielding can provide some protection, those that are EMP-proof would be rendered inoperable by an EMP. Consider what could happen when fast-moving emergency response vehicles, such as ambulances, firetrucks, police cars and similar on-road vehicles suddenly lost power while driving along busy highways. Even just a few inoperable vehicles would cause a massive traffic pile-up along packed expressways.

Traffic lights would cease to function and won’t come back on. What about bridges and toll roads? Cities would not be able to manage the flow of traffic and likewise cripple roads. Moreover, fuel extraction and distribution lines would be disrupted and no gas could be pumped.

Unprotected or improperly protected airports and traffic control systems could paralyze thousands of aircraft in the sky. There would be no navigation instruments or fly-by wires to guide pilots. Flights could be grounded altogether, including rail and sea transportation that account for over 20 percent of commodity transport in North America.

Food and water shortages

The majority of the water supply systems use power for pumping and water processing. Hours after the grid goes down, water supply systems would fail and result in water shortages.

The American food chain is reliant on transportation, and a worldwide EMP could cripple fragile networks that make it possible.

Refrigeration systems could fail and cause billions of dollars of produce to spoil. Retailers would have a hard time keeping food and water on the shelves and pharmacies would not be able to re-stock prescriptions.


Financial collapse

Shops and banks need electricity to process transactions. Banks would close and automated teller machines would stop working so access to your money will immediately cease. Stores that would still be open would be cash-only and you would need cash to live by for a while.

Worse than the effects on your bank account would be the ways a long-term power outage would impact the transfer of money on a wider scale. Just an hour of downtime can cost businesses thousands to millions of dollars.


Societal collapse

Just about every aspect of our lives depends on electricity to operate and an EMP event could take them all out at once and keep them out for weeks or months. With no power, communications or transportation, including food and water shortages and financial collapse, expect widespread panic, looting, home invasions, violence in the streets and other forms of chaos, lawlessness and savagery. Deaths would be inevitable.

Even if you live in the city, it will be at least 24 hours before things fall apart. These are just a few most concerning scenarios a massive EMP could put you in. Keep in mind that it’s always prudent to be prepared for the worst.


Are we gonna blame this fictitious EMP attack on the Russians, too!?
Or on Satan's Children who did 9/11!?
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Possible Scenarios Following An EMP Event 07 II 2023.


For a long time there would be no food, water, power, medicine, transport, communication, law and order, protection, civilization, etc. Little post 1940 would work. Imagine.

Book(s): One Second After, One Year After, are worth a read.

[jagd messer]

There is a very strong belief that any long-term loss of the electrical system would put the world or a country back 150 years.


However, keep in mind there was not any infrastructure to speak up 150 years ago, so people knew how to survive without electricity.

Therefore, a long-term outage would put us back half of a millennium or more because of our lack of knowledge on how to survive without electricity.

No one today truly knows whether the world or a country can survive without electricity because no one alive today has ever had too.

There will be casualties caused by the effects of a pulse.
A widespread loss of electricity will cause mayhem in any community.

Hospitals and care centres will not be operational because backup generators will not operate, lifesaving equipment would fail and be nothing would work.
Emergency services will be shut down as well, loss of comms and transport grinding them to a halt, which means no law enforcement or emergency response to medical emergencies.

Most automobiles manufactured after 1960 will not operate unless the vehicle was shielded.

Aircraft can fail in flight because any navigational aids would be destroyed seconds after an EMP.

Smaller aircraft can be flown without instruments, but many commercial jets and other aircraft rely on electronics to navigate. Only those that can fly by dead reckoning without instruments would have a chance of landing safely.

Literally, an Electromagnetic Pulse could mean aircraft would be falling from the skies causing untold numbers of fatalities.
People not prepared could very well succumb to hypothermia and hyperthermia.
Dehydration will be a threat for many in a matter of days as well as starvation in the days after. Mobile and landline phones will not function and any hand-held communications devices unless properly shielded will not operate after an EMP.

Prepare to live without electricity, which means you as an individual or family are on your own in the first few weeks, months or possibly years.

You must be self-sufficient enough to survive until the damage can be repaired.

You have to remember that any task you complete today using electricity will still have to be completed in the days after the power goes out.

An Electromagnetic pulse will destroy computers, your USB devices, as well as hard drives. In effect it will fry and make inoperative, just about any device that has an electronic component within it.

It is essential that you and family members are able to keep in contact and, also be able to monitor the airways for any public information that will help you stay safe.

But for others, an EMP would mean total disruption and a very real struggle for survival even to stay alive, in what could be compared to living in the dark ages.

As an EMP would mean no electricity, just about every service we come to rely on would be shut down. The whole infrastructure would crumble, pretty much instantly - think about it for a minute. Every single thing you do relies on electricity at its source.

It really is a frightening thought. Along with the panic and the looting, there will be no way of knowing what is happening and how long things will last before help comes.

Personally, I don't think help would come at all.

An EMP would take us back into the dark ages, literally.

Without electricity the whole world infrastructure would fail overnight and and total collapse would be a certainty, leaving the world a whole new place to try and survive in...!




How To Prepare And Survive An Electromagnetic …
https://www.ukpreppersguide.co.uk/how-to-prepare-and-survive

[Ray Allan]

There was a short-lived TV series about this scenario a few years ago detailing the characters' struggle to survive, but I don't remember the name of it.

[jagd messer]

90%% Of The World Population Would “Die” If All Electricity Stopped- How Long Would It Take to See The Earth Without Population And How Long Would The Remaining 1% Live?


End of the World, Part One

OK, so the power is out; and we presume it isn’t coming back on in the forseeable future. Maybe a solar storm has knocked the grid out, maybe something else has irrevocably damaged it. An EMP from someone’s careless use of a stray nuke, maybe.

Life in the world’s cities, great and lesser, very rapidly becomes very different and a whole lot less pleasant. Not only is there no power, but there’s no communications; the phone and cellphone networks are down as well, partly because there’s no power to run them, partly because their electronics have been fried by the same EMP that knocked out the grid.

There’s no radio or TV, there’s no internet, no power to run computers anyway, or to charge cellphones or anything else. While there are batteries still to be had, some people may be able to use portable radios, and some stations may still be broadcasting on generator power; but the fog of the solar storm means that reception is weak, and patchy at best.

There’s no water or sewerage either, because the treatment plants can’t run without power, and neither can the pumps. Most of these facilities have backup generators, but remote starting systems that depend on radio or other wireless signals to activate them have been toasted. Many are down in basements and cellars, there are no elevators or lights, electronic door locks are frozen shut, and not everybody who knows how to start them manually is able to get to work.

By the end of Day One, frozen food in the supermarkets is starting to go off; and there has already been looting, because without functioning EFTPOS card terminals (no power or communications) people can’t pay for anything anyway.

By Day Two, many people are fleeing the cities; but this is no easy feat, because many of them don’t have cars anymore – their electronic engine management systems are toast because of the EMP, and the likes of keyless entry devices likewise don’t work either. The trains aren’t running, because there’s no power, and even the diesel electrics are laid up because the signals aren’t working and half the staff can’t get to work anyway.

Those who do have fuel in their tanks are better off than those who don’t, because there’s no power to run the pumps at the gas stations; and out on the roads the traffic lights aren’t working. Neither is the GPS, because half the satellites got toasted by the EMP, and the electronic fog means the rest can’t provide a strong enough signal.

By Day Three, fires have broken out; but with no-one to put them out they rage for days and take out entire city blocks. There’s no mains water, no phones, the Fire Brigade radios aren’t working properly, and the roads are gridlocked by accidents and fuel-less vehicles.

Some hospitals are still running on generator power, but again, they are short staffed and the ambulances can’t operate properly. On top of that, they only have supplies on hand to rely on; the entire supply chain has shut down because of the power, phones, roads, and internet not working. When the drugs and food supplies are gone, that’s it. Also, they have the same sewerage issues as everyone else.

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Day Four and hundreds of thousands of people are trapped in burning cities, dehydrated and starving amongst piles of their own filth. Looting and violence is rampant across enitre continents.

Some people have made it to the countryside; but beyond the first wave, small rural communities are unable to absorb the sheer numbers, and as more refugees stream out from their dying Metropolii, country people resort to shooting at them in self-preservation.

Starving people are stealing and killing farm animals for food, and spoiling and wasting most of it because they have no real idea of how to butcher meat, and they’re cooking in stone age conditions over open fires. Living conditions outside the cities are scarcely better than within them. Rivers and streams become running sewers as well as drinking water sources. Disease is rife.

Day Five and millions have succumbed to starvation, dehyrdation, food poisoning, violence, fire, gastroenteritis, and other ills. Medications are running out and there is no functioning health system. Some well-meaning individuals have broken into city zoos and released the animals to prevent them from starving in their cages.

The dead lie unburied, the sick are uncared for, the newborn and their mothers are without the help and hygiene that was standard less than a week ago.

By Day Six total anarchy has enveloped the developed world. The military are the only institution still functioning, but even they have limited food and fuel, and their communications and transport are hamstrung same as everyone else’s. Martial law is imposed and enforced brutally.

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There is no air traffic movement, and ships stay tied up in port; there is no trade or communications, no functioning navigation aids, no power to pump fuel.

Less than a week after the power goes out, human civilisation has devolved back to the Stone Age. Gangs and groups battle each other with whatever weapons come to hand, the desperate struggle for food and water is punctuated by rape, robbery, and murder. People are killed for a bottle of mineral water or a can of beans.

The cities are now impassable burning hell-holes filled with disease and the stench of decomposition. There is no law or order and the military is completely preoccupied just looking after itself. The countryside is swamped with groupings of people living rough in shelters made from whatever materials come to hand, improvised sewerage, contaminated water, desperately uncertain food supplies, little to no medical care. A new Tribalism is developing rapidly and out of necessity. It’s hierarchy is determined by brutality and the reality of the human condition.

Millions of people, for whom the essentials of life have always been provided by a self-sustaining infrastructure, are now effectively living in the wild, with no knowledge of how to recreate those essentials in the way that their forebears did.

And winter is coming.

The End of the World, Part Two

A year on from the power going out, and the great numerical majority of the western world’s population has died, from disease, starvation, and violence.

The cities are places no-one goes, apart from on essential foraging missions, and only then in large well-armed groups. The bodies and the rotted foodstuffs don’t smell anymore, but there is still disease, and groups of feral people still live amongst the detritus of civilisation. Out of towners who venture in, in search of tools, hardware, and anything else useable, must be on their guard.

Zoo animals have made their homes as much in the ruins of the conurbations as they have in the surrounding countryside. Big cats are as much of a danger as are packs of roaming dogs.

Out in the hinterland, the new Tribes have established communities based around farming and essential collectivism. There are babies and sick people to be cared for, and precious little resource with which to achieve this. Food is short and tightly rationed. The canned goods salvaged from the wreck of the old society are all but gone. What is consumed must be grown or reared, all of it by hand and by horse; there is little fuel and precious little ability to maintain machinery. Subsistence is hard, and life is both precious and cheap.

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There is some trade, and the constant risk of conflict, with neighbouring tribes. There is no international trade, because everybody else is in the same boat, some of them even worse off. Across Europe, Asia, North and South America, international borders are gone, along with the ability of any conglomeration of people to preserve the concept of nationhood. Groups and regions survive in as far as they are able to delineate and defend their territory and borders. Warlords reign over much of what survives of humanity. In some places, pockets of Government or military authority still exist, but their influence and reach is severely limited. There is nothing which could be described as cohesive society.

Island nations fare a little better, for they at least have a natural border which preserves uniformity of language and pre-existing values; for now, at least.

Fishing carries on, in rowboats and sailboats, through the combined efforts of those who know how to fish and those who know how to sail. It is a risky business, limited to small catches from small boats and fairly close to the shore. There is no communication with the land, no search and rescue, and no refrigeration. The catch must be made fresh every day the weather permits, or smoked or salted.

On the tribal farms, people are learning how to smoke, dry, and salt meat, to preserve it; to shear sheep by hand, to scour wool and make yarn, to create clothing the echo of what their ancestors wore, five centuries previously. Grain is planted, harvested, and ground by hand. When the weather is bad, the harvest is down, and people go hungry. There is no imported food.

Two years on and the last of the fuel is gone. No-one is pumping oil or refining it, there are no ships or tankers, no way of communicating with people in the parts of the world where the oil used to come from anyway. Some communities are digging coal. One or two old steam trains have been rescued from transport museums and are operating on sections of tracks between a small number of communities.

The ammunition and the canned food is all gone as well. Some clever folks have managed to create black powder weapons, and there are pneumatic airguns, but most of mankind’s most devlish weaponry is now useless. The blade and the spear are resurgent and most common. People are learning how to use hunting bows, and to make arrows. When the last of the surviving fibreglass and composite bows have finally broken or worn out, they will have to learn how to make wooden ones.

One or two communities have managed to build windmills or water wheels, but the power stations of old all lie silent. There is no coal or oil, the hydro dams are jammed up with driftwood; and there are darker clouds on the horizon. Around the world, at least two dozen nuclear reactors are on fire. When civilisation collapsed, there was no-one to maintain the cooling systems, and not every automatic shutdown happened as it was supposed to. In addition, some have been damaged by earthquakes.

Humanity continues to shrink. People are finding ways to survive, but more people continue to die than are being born, and mortality rates are high. Life expectancy is down to around 50.

Travel is difficult and dangerous, and only undertaken for essential purposes of trade, medical emergency, or war. Tribes keep their own roads open in their immediate locality, but across the nations, major roads are in decay. Fallen trees must be cut by hand and dragged off the carriageways to allow the carts and horses to pass. Bandits and rival tribes lurk near roadways. Windblown dirt and dust have accumulated on tarmac roads, and plants are taking root. In a generation, the old road network will be gone. Bridges destroyed by floods or earthquakes simply stay destroyed; there is no cohesive organisation or society to rebuild them. Journeys of even hundreds of miles, which only two years ago could be made without difficulty by one person in less than a day, now take weeks, large parties, and much planning and preparation. There is no communication with home, and no rescue if anything goes wrong.

Farming is hard as well. Not only is there no machinery, but there is no irrigation either; nor fertiliser nor herbicide nor pesticide nor fungicide. The old adage has come full circle, and the survivors must grow four times as much crop to provide for their food needs as was the case before the collapse; “One for the weevil and one for the crow, one for the mildew and one to grow,” was the old axiom under which our ancestors grew their food.

By year three, some clever folks have managed to dig and smelt iron; but those with the requisite knowledge are few, and not many books survived the fires of the city libraries of old. There is, of course, no way to retrieve the sum of man’s knowledge from the servers and computerised records on which civilisation had come to depend.

It is now 2015, and the global cooling brought about by the solar minimum is about to reduce crop yields even further. With little in the way of firewood remaining, many of the survivors are going to either freeze or starve.

And those nuclear power stations are still on fire.

The End of the World, Part Three

It is 2045. A generation has passed since the power went off. The first children of the new age are in their early thirties, and have teenagers of their own.

Earth is in the middle of a mini ice age brought on by the solar minimum. Temperatures will remain low until nearly the end of the century. Life and agriculture are both hard but sustainable for the small populations who survive in largely self-reliant communities.

People have learned how to cure leather using tannin from animal brains. Individuals and communities are beginning to specialise in the production of certain goods, dependent for the most part on what resources they have access to, and what skills their original members brought with them from the old world.

Metal working and engineering are reasonably commonplace, but there is a warning for the future; the raw materials are almost all sourced from the recycling of plant, equipment, and machinery which existed from before – ships, vehicles, earthmoving machinery, aircraft, almost everything which is no longer of use. In generations to come, this resource will eventually be exhausted, and the great-grand children of tomorrow will have to learn to identify ores, to dig and quarry, to smelt and refine; and the knowledge required to achieve this exists in the heads of a small and ever-dwindling number of old timers, and a scant few surviving books salvaged from libraries and learning institutions which escaped the flames. Judgement day is not upon these people just yet, but it is coming; and this is but one more indication that civilisation is continuing to devolve.

People who remember the world before, make efforts to recreate it as closely as they can, using whatever they can salvage from its ruins. This is understandable, but will prove man’s undoing, as each generation knows less and less about what is required to start again from the beginning, and at the same time moves closer to that beginning, as the treasures of the past are used up.

Around the world, there are pockets of humanity who have retained the technologies from before. They survive in and around military bases and enclosed communities which had a reasonable level of preparedness. They have access not only to fuel and ammunition supplies, but to oil, operable refining, stocks of industrial chemicals, and stores of medicines and dehydrated food.

They have generators, wind, solar, and micro-hydro, and they have functioning computers which store information, and radio communications equipment, shortwave sets that do not depend on satellites or servers. Many are in contact with one another. Most importantly, they have retained knowledge. They are able to manufacture antibiotics and painkillers, and to pass on knowledge and learning to their children. They have access to medicine and even surgery which is completely beyond the reach of those on the outside.

They keep themselves deliberately separate from the agrarian tribes. They have little to gain from trade, and a great deal to lose. Some of them have functioning aircraft, and they are able to travel long distances and to other places where high technology survives. A separate and parallel system of communication and cooperation between these communities develops, as it is doing with the agrarians.

In generations to come, as these pockets continue to flourish and advance, and as the agrarian tribes continue to devolve, they will come to be known by the tribes as special and advanced, regarded as Gods in a way. Their fire-breathing aircraft will become the dragons of a new folklore.

The roads, railways, bridges, power lines, and other infrastructures of the old days are all but gone. Windblown dirt and dust have enveloped them, plants and vegetation have covered them, and wind, rain, fire, rust, and seismic activity is pulling them down and burying them. Already they are of no use at all, and scarcely recognisable; in another generation or two most evidence of their existence will be gone.

The old cities are likewise crumbling. Fire, wind, rain, snow, the actions of animals and the march of vegetation; these forces combine and conspire to erode and smother the lofty spires and sprawling suburbs of man’s former home.

They are dark places anyway, avoided by the tribes and communities; all that was of value has long since been recovered, and now they are places of danger, and of fear instilled in each new generation of babies.

Some societies have evolved a collective form of consensus if not democracy, others have become authoritarian. Some have better relations with neighbouring tribes, some worse; there are alliances and wars. Conflict is an integral part of everyday life. Fiefdoms have developed; these will become new Kingdoms in the near future. As knowledge and learning diminish with the passing of each generation and rise of each subsequent one, religion will be recreated, and with it will come the reinforcement of ignorance, stupidity and brutality.

Some people have traveled by sailing boat to far away places. Not all have returned, but those who have, report that life is much of a muchness the world over. In what was the Third World, very little has changed. People no longer see the contrails in the sky any more, and the ships don’t come to the ports. The white man hasn’t been seen for a long time, and his guns and money and alcohol and the other good things aren’t to be had. But life goes on as it has for millennia. Eventually people learn that the world of the white man has crumbled and been destroyed; they carry on without him. There isn’t petrol any more, and cooking oil is hard to find, but they made bullets in the past, and they remember how that was done. The Third World does not mourn the passing of the First. Eventually they will forget that it ever existed. They carry on as they have done, herding their goats, traveling by camel caravan, eking an existence from the deserts and the forests and the other wastelands that “modern” man would never have survived in anyway.

The nuclear fires have now gone out, and although the areas around the stricken plants is without life, the repercussions have not proven as globally catastrophic as some doomsayers may once have predicted. Indeed some of the high-tech communities still have access to, and working knowledge of, functioning nuclear reactors. Some of them are even able to refuel power plants and naval vessels.

As one small group of humanity continues to progress to the stars, the great mass continues on inexorably towards the caves.

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90%% Of The World Population Would “Die” If All Electricity Stopped- How Long Would It Take to See The Earth Without Population And How Long Would The Remaining 1% Live?

[Ray Allan]

Goddamn if that isn't depressing as hell. My fault for reading it just before going to bed.

[Stewart Meadows]

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I've been hearing about this supposed threat for decades. I'm not worried.

[Dawn Cannon]

Originally Posted by jagd messer

Electromagnetic pulse attack / EMP attack

WARNING and SPOILERS
I think I bought this as an audiobook ages ago and sent it back quick. A feminist medical woman turns up and starts bossing everyone around. They let the family dogs starve to death. What? With all that long pork lying around you let the dogs starve? Not for me, I would have fed them the medical woman. Awful book.

[Ray Allan]

William R. Forstchen also wrote this awful book, co-authored by former US Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, who was also a "history" professor. It is an alternate history novel where the Third Reich wins WW2 in Europe because the US never went to war with Germany, but did defeat Japan in the Pacific. Then a Cold War between the US and Germany ensues. Similar to Man in the High Castle. Loaded with the usual anti-German/Hitler/National Socialist and poor Holohoaxed jews crap. I read it in 1995 when it was first published, then immediately threw it out. Utter garbage.

[Bismillah]

Nukes are fake so therefore there is no nuclear EMP

However, they do make some conventional EMP weapons that apparently do do something.

Boeing's CHAMP Missile Demo - Directed High Frequency Microwave Disables Electronics (EMP)

Boeing's CHAMP Missile Demo - Directed High Frequency Microwave Disables Electronics (EMP)

there was video of these satanic freaks using these on Venezuela's hydro damn that supplies free electricity to 99% of people.

[Ray Allan]

A huge solar flare or coronal mass ejection (CME) similar to the 1859 Carrington Event could also disrupt or destroy a great deal of Earth's communications and electrical power grid as bad as any man-made EMP.

https://www.livescience.com/carrington-event

[notmenomore]

One must wonder if the latest spook stories about Russia posting some nukes in space might not play into the EMP scenario. How much of a space-based blast would be needed to destroy, say, 95% of all working satellites. Just the destruction of GPS, I would think, would largely cripple most of the Kwan economy. But the technical question is: would not a space-based EMP have the same destruction as a lower altitude blast, while still cleaning out the satellites, too? The only trick I can see would be the need of (perhaps) 3 or 4 blasts to account for the "shielding/shadowing" of /by the planet itself.

[Ray Allan]

There actually were a number of test detonations of nuclear bombs in space in 1961-62 to test the effects of electromagnetic pulses. The US Operation Fishbowl and the USSR's Project K. These were done before the Outer Space Treaty of 1967 which ostensibly prohibited nuclear weapons in space. One of the tests actually knocked out Telstar 1, an early US communications satellite and they did produce a lot of other bad effects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Fishbowl

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet..._nuclear_tests

[Dawn Cannon]

Operations
Ariel 1 was among several satellites inadvertently damaged or destroyed by the Starfish Prime high-altitude nuclear test on July 9, 1962, and subsequent radiation belt. Its solar panels sustained damage from the irradiation, affecting Ariel 1's operations.[13] The satellite operated even after the nuclear test. The radiation disabled the timer that would have deactivated the satellite after one year, effectively extending the satellite's life.[10] It decayed from orbit on 24 May 1976.[14]

Stupid question: What was the actual purpose of these satellites? Can't have been to watch talmudvision?

[Ray Allan]

Originally Posted by Dawn Cannon

Stupid question: What was the actual purpose of these satellites? Can't have been to watch talmudvision?

Mostly for international phone calls. And some teevee.

[Donncha Dennis]

Originally Posted by Ray Allan

There was a short-lived TV series about this scenario a few years ago detailing the characters' struggle to survive, but I don't remember the name of it.

jericho tv series around 2006

[Donncha Dennis]

One must remember that while yeah a good chunk of the population would die and there would be immense upheaval. There are ways to get fuel out of gas stations with manual hand cranked pumps. Alot of people who live in el nino or tornado alleys path have them because they live in this conditions where they need to have that. There are also books and manual on how to rebuild things and while the more heavy technical things will take decades if not more to rebuild some smaller scale things could be worked out. The main point would be to guard the people with the know how and the materials and resources to build or repair things. Hell you can run a car on wood and diesel could probably be manufactured on a small scale. but of course the roadways once they are cleared will be a mad max sort of situation. Coal isnt going anywhere anytime soon either. So while a emp/all electrical devices destruction event will set us back centuries in many cases it also isnt the worst thing that could happen.

I would be more concerned about all the nuclear chemical and biological laboratories running out of power supposedly all these places have fail safe plans in place in case of a power outage at least the newer built nuke plants apparently shut themselves down automatically without any power but who knows. Also these liberal animal rights retards will release untold amounts of animals and bugs into the wildlife by freeing all these non native plants and animals into the wilderness hopefully most will die off. Who wants to live in a america with roving bands of chimpanzees and lions like we are in the savanah or something. Imagine someone releasing bamboo grass into the wild and america having vast forrests of bamboo. Its bad enough we already have had native species wiped out already.

Would there be any positive affects from all electrical devices going down?

[Donncha Dennis]

I also imagine some very small scale factories might be able to be brought up and running again if parts could be salvaged and someone with know how can figure out how to operate them on some basic level. We may even see a return of steam powered cars, cranes, heavy equipment, etc.

[Dawn Cannon]

Originally Posted by Donncha Dennis

There are ways to get fuel out of gas stations with manual hand cranked pumps.

Ermm, just how long do you think the fuel will last?

Your comment prompted me to ask this question to a group of people and I was pleasantly surprised that they all knew the answer!

[Dawn Cannon]

Good short story:

The Bug Out - by David Crawford - Short Story SHTF Post-Apocalyptic Survival Fiction Audiobook

The Bug Out - by David Crawford - Short Story SHTF Post-Apocalyptic Survival Fiction Audiobook