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Old March 31st, 2015 #1361
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They realy do not care how they are seen or how their actions damage the WN movement as a whole
If you were truly concerned about White Nationalism's image you would shoot yourself, you disgusting cockroach.
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Old March 31st, 2015 #1362
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If you were truly concerned about White Nationalism's image you would shoot yourself, you disgusting cockroach.
If you cared about the image of WN, you would not publicly support a child stalker that later pled guilty to possession of child porn.
 
Old March 31st, 2015 #1363
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Wrong. The firm with which Yoder works lists his qualifications as "Licensed Professional Counselor & Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist."



What are your qualifications, jackass?

Strom pleaded guilty to having illicit images on his computer, which I agree is a compromise that he should not have made. He claims that his wife put the images there, which is very believable given other facts of the case.

He did not plead guilty to being a paedophile. He was not charged with that.

Licensed professional counselor Harvey Yoder says that Strom is not a paedophile. Unless some other expert with intimate knowledge of the matter says the contrary, I think it is irresponsible to persist in calling him that.
None of that says that Yoder is qualified to work with sex offenders. Wonder what Yoder thought about Strom stalking a child
 
Old March 31st, 2015 #1364
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None of that says that Yoder is qualified to work with sex offenders. Wonder what Yoder thought about Strom stalking a child
It says that Harvey Yoder is not "just a marriage counselor" as you claimed, you jackass. That is only one of his qualifications. He is also a licensed professional counselor, a kind of mental health professional. As such he was competent to give a professional opinion about Kevin Strom's mental health.

I don't think that Yoder thought much about "Strom stalking a child," since it apparently didn't happen. Any charge relating to that accusation was thrown out by the judge, and the accusation never made sense on its face anyway. So you really are talking out your ass here. All of this has been dispelled over and over already, and I would say that Linder is being negligent if he lets you continue deliberately making what are confirmed to be false accusations.

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Old March 31st, 2015 #1365
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. All of this has been dispelled over and over already, and I would say that Linder is being negligent if he lets you continue deliberately making what are confirmed to be false accusations.
If you want to discuss false accusations, how about we discuss your mate Fred Steed calling my mother a back alley whore, or calling Andy a sheep fucker. You do not appear upset about those remarks.
 
Old March 31st, 2015 #1366
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It says that Harvey Yoder is not "just a marriage counselor" as you claimed, you jackass. That is only one of his qualifications. He is also a licensed professional counselor, a kind of mental health professional. As such he was competent to give a professional opinion about Kevin Strom's mental health.
He was also paid by a Strom defender. You left out that part.
 
Old March 31st, 2015 #1367
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I have the johnny come lately imbecile hadding on ignore for his information the question of yoder's role has been debated and dealt with earlier in the thread.
As long as strom is on the sex offenders register he must be regarded as a system stooge and a hostile threat to the race

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Harvey Yoder is NOT a psychologist. He has a masters degree in psychology but as far as I am aware (per his own bio) does not hold a doctorate which I understand is needed - along with other qualifications which vary from state to state - to become a psychologist in the US. This is why he calls himself a counselor and not a psychologist.



As for the document - have you read it? Point 2 says he is not qualified to determine what constitutes pornography. It also states that he has not looked at Met Art but took someone else's word that it contained pictures of children. As I understand it, Met Art contains a disclaimer stating that all girls are over 18 so all Mr Strom had to do - if Met Art pictures were the issue - was print out that disclaimer and show it to the judge. Those weren't the pictures he was charged with though, were they?

Point 3 - Mr Strom's Mum (who I am led to believe financed the sessions) told the family counselor he was not a paedophile so that influenced his decision to write the report.




OK, if not for the other things, I could buy the tape recording explanation. It doesn't explain why he signed the contract, though. I have a hard time seeing any man putting his name to that document and then following through with the said counselling. I should think a normal reaction from the man to the woman in that situation would be "f**k you. You accuse me of that shit, I'm gone." not wait around to have her allegedly plant pictures on his computer.
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Old March 31st, 2015 #1368
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If you want to discuss false accusations, how about we discuss your mate Fred Steed calling my mother a back alley whore, or calling Andy a sheep fucker. You do not appear upset about those remarks.
OK, shithead, what kind of whore was she then? If you can prove she was some other kind of a whore I will be happy to correct my post. As for the little Irish sheep herder, we determined andy's status as a sheep-molester using exactly the same line of reasoning you idiots have used to determine Strom's guilt.
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Old March 31st, 2015 #1369
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He was also paid by a Strom defender. You left out that part.
Your assumption is that Yoder has no professional ethics. That says something about you.

I doubt that Yoder was paid by anyone for the letters that he wrote pertaining to Strom's case.

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Old March 31st, 2015 #1370
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He was also paid by a Strom defender. You left out that part.
Of course he left that part out, just like he forgot to mention that Yoder is not actually qualified to make an assessment on if a person is a pedophile or not. Hadding posts misleading information and Fred Steed posts insults. By their actions they do not make the new NA look good
 
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Of course he left that part out, just like he forgot to mention that Yoder is not actually qualified to make an assessment on if a person is a pedophile or not. Hadding posts misleading information and Fred Steed posts insults. By their actions they do not make the new NA look good
Harvey Yoder is a mental health professional. Since mental health is his area of expertise, he is qualified to give an opinion about the mental health of a client. That is the kind of opinion that Yoder gave in his letter of 16 April 2008 to Federal Public Defender Andrea Harris:

I am prepared to say, however, that in my professional judgment I do not see Mr. Strom meeting any of the criteria in the DSM IV for being a pedophile.
 
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Harvey Yoder is a mental health professional. Since mental health is his area of expertise, he is qualified to give an opinion about the mental health of a client. That is the kind of opinion that Yoder gave in his letter of 16 April 2008 to Federal Public Defender Andrea Harris:

I am prepared to say, however, that in my professional judgment I do not see Mr. Strom meeting any of the criteria in the DSM IV for being a pedophile.
You really dont get it do you. I asked you to list his qualifications, you have not, all you have posted is your opinion. You continue to deliberately post misleading crap
 
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You really dont get it do you. I asked you to list his qualifications, you have not, all you have posted is your opinion. You continue to deliberately post misleading crap
Hadding probably has some personal stake in all this filth. We saw earlier in the thread the stromites trying to normalise stroms stalking activities
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Old March 31st, 2015 #1374
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You really dont get it do you. I asked you to list his qualifications, you have not, all you have posted is your opinion. You continue to deliberately post misleading crap
Yoder's qualifications have already been indicated.

Here we go spinning wheels in the mud, trying to argue with somebody who really isn't interested in facts, who insists that there is controversy where there should be none. This kind of behavior -- if allowed -- drags a forum down to the level of a retarded shit-flinging match.

I am done here.
 
Old March 31st, 2015 #1375
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He was also paid by a Strom defender. You left out that part.
He was paid? Well gosh, that changes everything.

Sammy, not only are you a world class asshole but you are a fucking idiot. What, you expect him to work for free?

You loud mouths started off with the claim that Yoder was a family friend. When that lie was exposed you just move on to another lie by implication, i.e. since the Strom family paid for his services then his conclusions are somehow suspect.

Even stranger is your claims that even though Yoder has a Masters Degree in psychology he was not qualified to determine whether Strom is a pedophile or not. However this qualification somehow doesn't apply to Sammy Emerson, andy the sheep-shagger, the fat lying bastard, zandy, or Bev, none of whom holds a PhD in psychology as far as I know.
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Yoder's qualifications have already been indicated.

Here we go spinning wheels in the mud, trying to argue with somebody who really isn't interested in facts, who insists that there is controversy where there should be none. This kind of behavior -- if allowed -- drags a forum down to the level of a retarded shit-flinging match.

I am done here.
Your right, his qualifications have been indicated, unfortunately for you Hadding, none of it indicates that Yoder is qualified to determine whether or not a person is a pedophile.
Your friend Fred Steed is the one slinging shit,yet you dont appear upset about his remarks and neither of you appear interested in facts, only in misleading posters and/or insulting posters
 
Old March 31st, 2015 #1377
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You really dont get it do you. I asked you to list his qualifications, you have not, all you have posted is your opinion. You continue to deliberately post misleading crap
You really are incredibly thick aren't you? His qualifications have been posted over and over and may be found on his website. Why do you continue to lie about this? What is your agenda? Why do you continue your attempts to discredit White Nationalism by lying about its leaders and organizations?
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Old March 31st, 2015 #1378
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Hadding probably has some personal stake in all this filth. We saw earlier in the thread the stromites trying to normalise stroms stalking activities
Andy, you little sheep diddling bastard, why do you resort to lies in your attempts to discredit the NA and its cadre? Is it because that's all you have? Like the lie about KAS stalking anyone. That has been shown to not only be false but it has also been shown to be illogical. Or your lie about anyone trying to normalize, or "normalise" as you limey dimwits insist on misspelling it, stalking activity?
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Fred, if Yoders qualifications for assessing whether a person is a pedophile is listed on his website, then you should have no problem posting the relevant information here for all of us to read. As for the rest of your post, provide proof that I have deliberately lied about WN leaders or organisations. Also while your at it, a written apology to my mother would be real nice. Lets see whether or not you are a real man

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Old March 31st, 2015 #1380
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Your right, his qualifications have been indicated, unfortunately for you Hadding, none of it indicates that Yoder is qualified to determine whether or not a person is a pedophile.
Your friend Fred Steed is the one slinging shit,yet you dont appear upset about his remarks and neither of you appear interested in facts, only in misleading posters and/or insulting posters
You fat bastard, you are pathetic. You expect to come on here and defame genuine activists and organizations with pure bullshit and outright lies and then you whine like a fucking puppy that just got his nose rubbed in his own shit. Don't like the smell? Don't shit on the fucking floor.
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