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Why ask why. Die kike die.
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January 22nd, 2009 | #24 |
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All these bullshit of "protect our environment" makes me angry!
The problem isn't really "mother's nature" dying, but just too many fuckers living today on the face of Earth and producing too many trash and consuming too many resources (including some completely worthless shit people). Risk the shit people out of the account and what you get as result? Planet Earth will be fine again. "Protecting the environment" without eliminating the worthless piece of shit people using resources with no pay (or not deserving use it) provides no solution at all.
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regular light bulbs
Regular light bulbs might give off heat and something you don't want in the Summer, but in the cold climates they help to keep the house warm. They don't put off as much light either. They are very expensive. More nonsense.
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Incandescent lamps are 100% energy efficent if you also need heat...
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If they were gonna make any kind of light bulb compulsory (which they shouldn't, but...), it should have been LED bulbs. They are superior in pretty much every way, except for price - and even then, in terms of $ per light-hour, they are better than other kinds. I mean, they can last for decades with no troubles at all.
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Some of the newer LED's have nice light. They're expensive, but COSTCO had/has them on sale at more than half off.
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We have 11 recessed light fixtures in our house that take the Par 30 halogen style lightbulbs. They cost $10 each, and habitually burn out every 6 months. We replaced them with LED bulbs. The LEDs cost the same amount, have an expected lifespan of 25 years, and our electric bill dropped nearly $80 a month.
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Buying shit products because they're the cheapest is usually a total false economy in the long run. (I'm building a new computer from ordered parts to try to save some dollars, and while looking at power supplies today, I came across a 1600W one for the same price as 500-600W ones of other brands. So I looked that brand up online, and sure enough, nearly all the comments said stuff like, 'Buy this brand if you want all your other hardware to be fried' and 'If you're going to buy this brand and use it for anything more than a stripped-down word-processing running-something-like-KolibriOS box, there's gonna be pyrotechnics!' So there's a good example. Shit, at my age, the prospect of only needing 2 or 3 more lightbulbs per socket for THE REST OF MY LIFE in my house is pretty exciting.) PS: and seriously, do check these out, they are great for old computers and computers you don't use for very graphics-intensive purposes... http://kolibrios.org/en/ http://menuetos.net/ Last edited by M.N. Dalvez; April 1st, 2013 at 12:25 PM. |
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Hmmm, yes on the good value vs cheap price.
I saw some LED bulbs with motion detectors built in for $3....you can imagine how well they worked....live and learn... |
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(This just affects those halogen replacement bulbs that look like regular light bulbs, that screw into regular light bulb sockets) |
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CFL's have numerous different potential disadvantages. They take a few minutes to warm to maximum light intensity, they give off hideous quality of light, they emanate UV radiation, their lifespan is greatly shortened by being frequently turned off and on, many are not dimmable, some should not be used in an enclosed fixture. Some CFLs designs seek to mitigate some of these problems, but few solve them all, and these improved CFL's tend to be more expensive. CFLs also tend to have trouble lighting up in outside locations in very cold weather. These are just some of the disadvantages of CFL, there are several more. It's not a solution appropriate for every situation.
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As I am sure many of you are well aware, the state of California is in a hopeless fiscal death spiral. Most blame fat pensions for state workers, and an enormous influx of illegal aliens into the state, but wait there's more! According to the Wall Street Journal, California is also burning money they don't have on Compact Fluorescent Light Bulbs: Quote:
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http://bulbcollector.com/forum/index.php?topic=1641.0 http://bulbcollector.com/forum/index.php?topic=1642.0 Potential fire danger too: http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?p=1590982 http://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=122408 Did I mention these Turdcoil bulbs leak out UV radiation ! CFLs actually leak out fairly high levels of UV radiation. It has to do with how they work. The inside of the tube contains mercury vapor. When an electric discharge is passed through, it causes the mercury to give off UV radiation. This radiation hits the phosphor coating on the inside of the tube, causing it to glow. However, some of the UV radiation leaks out. Spiral CFL tubes emit several times more UV than regular fluorescent tubes because during the manufacturing process, when the tube is twisted into a spiral shape, small cracks are formed in the phosphor coating inside, allowing more UV to get through. Because of this, CFL bulbs are NOT an option for me, since I am one of the small number of individuals very sensitive to this. The radiation emitted from CFLs makes my skin feel sore after about 15-20 minutes, and they also strain my eyes. It feels like "snow blindness", and my eyes continue to ache for many hours afterwards. Although I am more sensitive than most, I cannot imagine all this extra UV exposure is good for everyone else either. http://www.medicaldaily.com/some-ene...-cancer-244179 |
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Excellent analysis why CFL's are a rip off:
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Currently in America you can buy a 72 watt halogen bulb that looks just like a regular light bulb. Unfortunately, these 72 watt halogen replacements are not really as bright as a 100 watt bulb. The packaging deceptively claims it is a "100 watt equivalent", but actually it puts out 10% less light. The old 100 watt incandescent bulb put out 1690 lumens, the new 72 watt halogen puts out only 1490 lumens. So why can't they manufacture an 80 watt halogen? The asinine law bans higher wattages above 72 watts, although 150 watt bulbs are allowed, so long as their sales do not double (if too many people start buying them), then the current law automatically bans them too. Furthermore, these 72 watt halogen bulbs will not be able to meet the new efficiency mandate that "phases" into effect in 2020. What options will be available then, I have no idea, but I am not optimistic. I imagine there will be severe consumer outrage when those 72 watt bulbs go away. Oh yes, one more thing. Because these new more efficient halogen bulbs operate the white hot filament at a higher temperature inside, the filament is more vulnerable to sagging and breaking. The temperature of the filament in these new higher efficiency halogen bulbs are 290ºF hoter. So although they are rated to last 1000 hours, these new halogen bulbs will burn out much faster if subjected to frequent vibration or even if they are used sideways. Not many people are aware of this minor disadvantage, and it is not a problem for other types of halogen bulbs. It's not exactly something the manufacturers want to advertise. |
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