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Erich Gliebe Steps Down as National Alliance Chairman
GLOUCESTER, Va. – Neo-Nazi Erich Gliebe, a former boxer who billed himself in the ring as “The Aryan Barbarian,” took a dive today, publicly forfeiting his title as chairman of the National Alliance (NA), once America’s leading hate group.
After being pummeled for nearly a year by a band of disgruntled former NA members seeking to knock him out of power with a $2 million civil lawsuit, accusing him of “a myriad of instances of malfeasance, misfeasance, illegalities and irregularities,” Gliebe essentially told the Gloucester County Circuit Court judge presiding at a status hearing for the case “no mas” and announced he had quit the neo-Nazi group he has led for 12 years. “I have resigned all my positions with the National Alliance,” Gliebe told the court, standing at the defense table in a black suit and blue shirt. “I am no longer director or chairman.” It was, however, a split decision for Gliebe’s bitter courtroom opponents, a gang of six who call themselves the National Alliance Reform & Restoration Group, or NARRG. While Gliebe stepped down as NARRG had desperately wanted, he handed over control of the West Virginia-based NA not to them but to William (Will) W. Williams, a gray-haired, retired Army Special Forces operator and a former NA official. Williams and Kevin Strom, a broadcast engineer and convicted child porn enthusiast with a long history on the racist right, had been competing with the NARRG Nazis for the keys to what’s left of the evil empire founded by William Pierce, a one-time physics professor and author of The Turner Diaries, the novel that inspired the Oklahoma City bombing. Gliebe took over as the anointed successor to Pierce when he died unexpectedly in 2002. Gliebe’s announcement and the 66-year-old Williams’ ascension to the tarnished throne seemed to catch NARRG by surprise. “This is the first time I’ve heard Mr. Gliebe is no longer the chairman,” NARRG’s lawyer, Daniel A. Harvill, told the court. At one point during the 30-minute hearing, the judge asked Harvill, “What is the nature of this business” the two sides were fighting over? “It’s a European-centric political organization,” Harvill said, adding, “I wouldn’t call it a white supremacist organization.” After the hearing in which Gliebe was ordered to produce membership information and other documents to NARRG, Harvill declined to comment about the lawsuit or Gliebe’s announcement. NARRG’s most prominent members — Jim Ring, a longtime NA unit leader from California who resigned from the group in 2012, and Sanders Pierce, the brother of the founder — were not in the courtroom. The only member of NARRG to appear today was Brian Wilson. He left without comment or any indication whether or not NARGG intended to continue its lawsuit. But as the two sides filed out of the courtroom, Williams introduced himself to Harvill and Wilson as “Will Williams, the new chairman.” Gliebe’s announcement ended a tumultuous dozen years since he took the reins of the organization that then had some 1,400 members, 17 full-time salaried national staff members and an income of close to $1 million a year in dues and earnings from its neo-Nazi music label, Resistance Records. Gliebe’s lack of charisma, his authoritarian and ham-handed management style, his fondness for strippers (including his wife, who has since left him), and his financial bungling led to a series of splits, resignations and public attacks on Gliebe by his ostensible followers. The group went from being highly respected by the radical right in the United States and Europe to being something of a joke, with Resistance Records virtually out of business and NA membership down to fewer than 100 people. The latest blow to Gliebe’s NA came this June, when a Canadian judge struck down a bequest worth an estimated $220,000 that was left to it by a Canadian NA member. That money might have helped put the NA under Gliebe back on track, but the judge ruled that allowing it to go to a neo-Nazi group was a violation of Canadian law and public policy. Gliebe’s lawyer in that case filed an appeal of the verdict that is still pending. Gliebe resisted calls for his resignation for years, and engaged in a series of maneuvers to keep his enemies from power. But the number of people loyal to him or even willing to abide him as leader kept shrinking. Ring and the others who comprised NARRG, on the other hand, were respected by a great many former NA members, with many seeing Ring as the best candidate for leader. But Williams, known as a hard-liner even on the neo-Nazi scene, was also highly respected among many NA members and others on the radical right. Outside of the red brick courthouse today, Gliebe told Hatewatch that he resigned to spend more time with his young son. “The best way to care for him is to be out of the Alliance,” he said, adding that he had been thinking about resigning for some time. Gliebe said he turned over the chairmanship of the Alliance to Williams at the group’s last board meeting but declined to provide any details of the meeting. “I handed the Alliance over to Mr. Williams because I thought he was the best man for the job,” Gliebe said. “I think he’s the most knowledgeable. He’s not a cultist.” Williams, who was dressed in jeans and a gray shirt, stood next to Gliebe in the Virginia sunshine and told Hatewatch that there was no need for the lawsuit to continue. “Their demand was for Erich Gliebe to step down and put the Alliance under new leadership,” Williams said. “That’s what we’ve done. We’ve met their demands.” read full article at source: http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2014/1...ance-chairman/ |
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Hopefully, they won't try and revive the Youth Division of the NA. That could be problematic. Just saying.
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Regardless of what one thinks of Will White Williams and his associate, the long overdue resignation of Erich Gliebe as National Alliance chairman has to be considered as a positive development.
I can visualize Dr. Pierce gazing down on Midgard from the Hall of the Immortals and breathing a sigh of relief. There are still many rough days ahead for the Piercist movement as various internal contradictions and problems are resolved, but at least things are moving in the right direction. Long journey, small steps!
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Interesting read: http://www.narrg.com/2014/11/additio...court-hearing/
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Seems like you are trying to try the case here, rather than in
ZOG's courts, Mr. Wilson. I also have second-hand information that you are a Christian. Perhaps your "Holy Ghost" up in the sky or on the back side of the Moon will help you prevail in ZOG's court and that way you can make sure Dr. Pierce's ban on your worship of the dead Jew Jesus Christ will help you prevail. However, i wouldn't bet on it. |
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Honestly, can anyone imagine an effective WN organization WITHOUT K.A. Strom and his extensive sweater collection? I thought not.
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One thing that needs to be said about Mr. Wilson is that he is a person who took a hell of a leap for our struggle by becoming involved in the suit. He is a professional and after it became apparent to scumbag Gliebe that he was involved in the suit we then see the "coincidence" of the SPLC making this the subject of an article on their website. While it cannot be confirmed, much evidence points to EG leaking some of his details to the SPLC in an effort to make Mr. Wilson turn tail and run. The effort failed and this says something about Wilson. How many people involved in this struggle who have something to lose would and have succumbed to these sort of tactics? Are these the kind of people we need to be chasing away or being supportive of? I don't believe that Wilson puts any religious convictions over the fate and interests of the race and that is fine by me. As far as anyone being skeptical of WN tackling this rotten court system, I would normally be skeptical of the idea myself. However in this case we have on both sides parties that the system is not going to curry favor with, it is not like NARRG is opposing a Jewish group or organization. Like it or not the lawsuit was the ONLY way that we stood a chance at saving the NA. And it was 110% the reason behind the recent change at the top, I will go into a more in depth description of this shortly.
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The sudden and surprise announcement that Gliebe resigned has resulted in a lot of confusion which is to be expected, it shocked the hell out of me and this whole process going at Gliebe in an effort to save the NA has not been lacking for surprises that is for sure. I say this as a member of the National Alliance Reform and Restoration Group. I can only say so much because there is an ongoing legal battle but I wanted to try to clear some things up for those parties who care about the NA. I don't wish to tell people what to think but do think it is proper to give people a more clear picture of what has lead to the recent events with regard to the announcement regarding Williams and Gliebe.
Donnie your translation leaves out a couple of pertinent facts. One, yes the McCorkell estate escaped Gliebe but Gliebe certainly had aims to sell that property and he saw plenty of $$$ in that proposition. The only thing that kept him from selling it (remember he had it on the market in an online posting) was the work of NARRG. During a hearing in April EG was forbidden from selling that property as a part of the legal proceedings. Two, the taxes went delinquent a couple times which was a result of his flawed performance as Chairman. They were however paid and are not currently delinquent. The reason that Gliebe resigned was 110% due to the work that the National Alliance Reform and Restoration Group has done to hold Gliebe accountable for his awful performance as Chairman, one in which was more than just bad decisions and poor leadership. The whole matter of Gliebe resigning and making Williams Chairman was quite a surprise, and while Gliebe being out of the picture (supposedly) is a great thing, the circumstances in which it happened just stink to high heaven, so much so it is hard to tell what is going on. I mean these two were known to hate each other. All you have to do is research past posts online, Williams and Gliebe in the past have been the worst of enemies, Williams had some of the most scathing things to say about Gliebe in the past, which in themselves were not incorrect. I am not inclined to think that this is a case of two WN figures putting differences aside to better the chances of achieving our goals either, far, far from it in my opinion. Also online are a number of claims made by Williams that he and Strom were creating "their own NA" and that the property in Hillsboro and the fate of the authentic NA did not matter according to him. He made this clear in posts online, saying that NAARG was wasting their time and that the property and the authentic NA mattered not. How quickly things change though, and they both walk into the court hearing a few weeks ago and sit down and right in tow is the SPLC guy and his cameraman. I mean the whole thing just stinks. My advice would be to hold off judgement on this change of leadership until a future date, the people involved know that what has been announced is not etched in stone. I think it is harmful to the future of the NA, harmful to the possibility of it being rebuilt and revitalized, to have people thinking things are going in one direction when in fact these "changes" may be short lived. And might I say that with regard to those currently claiming control over the organization that may be a good thing, a NA with leadership including the likes of Strom is as much of a non-starter as it is with Gliebe in control. Proof of this has come with the lion's share of the reaction to the news, few want to be involved with anything that has Strom as a part of it, and for good reason of course. For starters, Gliebe is still on file with the State of Virginia as the Chairman. There has been an SPLC article saying otherwise, Williams has triumphantly announced he is the Chairman, but this has not been made official in the real world, that is what NARRG has been pursuing with this lawsuit, real solutions to this problem at the top, not just smearing the charlatan on the Internet like Williams did years back, that amounted to nothing, no actually taking steps to hold him accountable and take the NA back is what NARRG has been working toward with this lawsuit. After all the hard work NARRG has done to make it to where FINALLY Gliebe stepped down Williams came in and was the supreme opportunist. Instead of taking the steps NARRG did with the court case Williams chose to align himself with EG, making who knows what sort of deal with him for the opportunity to be named Chairman. I have a hard time believing Gliebe would give up control without some sort of agreement between the two for compensation of some sort, and again he has not officially given up control, perhaps this is a planned move to ensure he gets what has been promised to him. Again it cannot be overstated, Williams would have never had this opportunity had it not been for the lawsuit brought by NARRG. Does anyone actually think Gliebe just gave it up, and to Williams of all people? Fact is NARRG's legal case is on such solid ground that Gliebe knew he was in big trouble. He hates the people involved in NARRG so badly, for bringing the suit, that he actually chose to give control to Williams, anything to keep it from the NARRG group which stopped him. And again who knows what sort of deal or promises that Williams made to Gliebe. Williams may well intend to sell that sacred ground in the end as he is on record saying his imposter NA's home is in Tennessee there. I did not know much about Williams before he created his own NA with Strom a year ago except that he had been involved in WN for a long time, I now have zero respect for him after his choice to align first with Strom and now Gliebe. Others can make their own decision. People can choose who to put their faith in. Williams is aligned with Strom and we know what his record is, and not just with the criminal case either. He headed the National Vanguard organization on his own and nothing happened except a bunch of good people being disappointed in the end, and also money and donations taken for a magazine that never came out. Now Williams is all buddy-buddy with Gliebe. Put my being aligned with NARRG aside, this just stinks to no end. I am not sure if one could pick two worse characters to align themselves with and I am not sure how any racialist who is aware could have any hope in putting any hope behind this outfit. NARRG's intention was to take back control from this charlatan Gliebe, not make any deals with him where he was able to walk away with anything that was made possible by the work of Dr. Pierce. Now Williams is telling NARRG to just give up the suit, after we have spent the time and money in bringing about the conditions to bring about the supposed resignation of Gliebe. We didn't come this far to allow the organization to be headed by a pedo like Strom along with a man who has just proved himself to be as unscrupulous as Gliebe with his actions in regard to his being named Chairman by Gliebe. The founder's brother Sanders Pierce is a part of NARRG, I personally want to see to it that he knows that his brother's organization is secured and headed back on an upward path while he is still on this earth. This man is a quiet and reserved individual, a gentleman, but he has been angered along with everyone else who cares about Dr. Pierce's legacy in what has taken place since his passing. I can personally attest to the fact that he has been very happy to see this lawsuit come to pass, all because a few folks who stuck around would not see this creep Gliebe destroy everything and just run off after liquidating everything. I am proud to be aligned with Sanders Pierce and the others in NARRG as well as its supporters. Again people can choose with whom they put their faith and support behind, but it should be made clear that NARRG made it happen, Gliebe would have run off with hundreds of thousands of dollars after selling that property had it not been for NARRG's hard work. No amount of bashing Gliebe online, ala Williams, got it done, no, real action in the real world got it done and it sure as hell wasn't easy. The fight we have had to embark on here, with all the twists and turns (this Williams thing has not been the first dip in this roller coaster ride) will prove to show us worthy and able of completing the task in which we are ultimately engaged, restoring the NA to its past relevance and vaulting it forward and upward from there. And again, the fight is not done yet, be certain of that if not of anything else.
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I also don't believe in picking fights with people who happen to be religious as long as they don't push their religious beliefs on the racial struggle in a negative and arduous manner. If they put religion over the fate of the race, I say go practice your religion, your not welcome among those who care about their race. If they care about their race above all else and show it, I don't care one way or the other what their religious beliefs are. Serious racialists will know that we don't have the time to argue among ourselves about matters that can be settled after the eternal enemy of our people are addressed and dealt with. Unless and until they are dealt with, the place religion will or won't have in a future White world is a waste of time to discuss, we simply won't have a future if we don't focus on the enemy.
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(1) Yes, the NARRG does deserve great credit for putting legal pressure on Gliebe to resign. He probably would have resigned in the end, anyway, as he was clearly not interested in being the chairman of a functional National Alliance. But the NARRG hastened his departure--perhaps by years--and it prevented him from selling the Mill Point property, as he was threatening to do. (2) The accusation of Will Williams being an "opportunist" is wrong, to the degree that it is meant to cast aspersion on his personality. I have before me Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Tenth Edition (1993). On page 815 it gives the definition of "opportunism," to wit: "the art, policy or practice of taking advantage of opportunities or circumstances often with little regard to principles or consequences."So, if by "opportunist" you mean that Williams is unprincipled, you are wrong. Rather, he showed tactically flexibility in taking advantage of an opportunity that presented itself. He did not sacrifice or compromise any principles in doing so. The ability to act in a tactically adept manner is a good thing in a leader: it is a quality that is to be desired.
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If Williams doesn't have the sense to get rid of Strom he's not qualified to join a White organization, let alone lead one.
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