Croatia cleared for EU membership in 2013

[Angel Ramsey]

Originally Posted by Serbian

about joining the EU? Must be some liberal democrat or homosexual.

Pretty much. A stormfront mod, who hated SPARTA.

[Serbian]

Originally Posted by Angel Ramsey

Pretty much. A stormfront mod, who hated SPARTA.

You mean Croatian girl Hypathia? I don't know her personally and I was not familiar with her interaction with Sparta but from what I have read she doesn't seem that bad, at least not compared to some others who post there. Of course I could be wrong.

[Serbian]

Originally Posted by Angel Ramsey

Pretty much. A stormfront mod, who hated SPARTA.

Was this hostility between them political/nationalistic or personal?

[Serbian]

Saturday, 12. January 2013 - 04:01

Barroso calls for Swiss financial contribution to Croatia

Croatian Times



EC President José Manuel Barroso has called for discussions "as soon as possible" between the EU and Berne over the question of Switzerland’s financial contribution to Croatia ahead of the country’s EU entry on 1 July. Switzerland has already given over one billion euros in financial support to those Central and Eastern European countries that joined the EU in 2004 and 2007. The EU now wants Switzerland to help Croatia as soon as it joins the EU.


http://www.croatiantimes.com/news/Ge...ion_to_Croatia

[Serbian]

Croatia decides to issue visa for Turkish citizens

12:25, 25 January 2013 Friday

Travel agencies reacted to the decision and highlighted that during the past festive holiday, 2,400 Turkish citizens visited historic Dubrovnik city.

World Bulletin / News Desk

In the framework of adaptation to the EU's visa system, government of Croatia decided to issue visa for Turkish citizens who wish to travel to Croatia as of April 1, 2013. According to information from Croatian Prime Ministry, the decision was taken on Thursday in the cabinet meeting.

Officials from Croatian Foreign Ministry informed AA about the visa relations between Turkey and Croatia and said Croatia would start issuing visas from April 1, 2013 latest. Croatia's EU membership will become active on July 1, 2013.

The new visa regulations were covered in the Croatian press widely. It was stressed that issuing visas to Turkish citizens would affect the Croatian economy negatively.

Travel agencies reacted to the decision and highlighted that during the past festive holiday, 2,400 Turkish citizens visited historic Dubrovnik city.

Turkey's Ambassador in Zagreb Burak Ozugergin told AA that Croatia had to revise the details of their decision.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=...ticleID=102294

[Serbian]

Dutch parliament supports Croatia's EU accession


[ 30 January 2013 06:53 ]

Baku-APA. A majority of the Dutch parliament on Tuesday approved the accession of Croatia to the European Union (EU) later this year, APA reports quoting Xinhua.

Croatia finished accession negotiations in June 2011 and on Dec. 9, 2011 signed the Treaty of Accession. After that the Croats voted in favor of EU membership in a referendum.

Before July 1, all EU member states should have ratified the treaty, followed by accession of Croatia as the 28th EU member.

The Dutch parliament agreed with Foreign Minister Frans Timmermans, who stated that the EU has learned from the mistakes that were made when Romania and Bulgaria joined in 2007. After their accession, it became clear that these countries were not meeting the conditions and therefore should not have been admitted.

According to Timmermans, the Croats have made sufficient progress to join the Union.

Labor (PvdA), the Liberals (VVD), the Christian Democrats (CDA), the Democrats of D66 and GroenLinks (Green Left) supported the accession of Croatia, although government parties PvdA and VVD still find the situation in Croatia is not yet ideal.

Only the anti-Europe Party of Freedom PVV and the Socialist Party SP are against the Croatian accession. The SP is concerned about the arrival of migrants from Croatia looking for a job in other EU countries.

Timmermans advocated a transitional period, in which Croats cannot work in the Netherlands immediately after the membership is approved.

The European Commission will report on the progress made by Croatia in March. Until that date the Dutch cabinet waits with the signing the Accession


http://en.apa.az/news_dutch_parliame..._a_186877.html

[Serbian]

Croatia solves challenges with Bosnia, readying for EU

Trilateral meeting of Bosnian, Croatian and EU officials in Brussels discussed open questions between the countries, with a focus on
agreement on the use of the Croatian port of Ploce, to which Bosnia also claims rights.

During their meeting officials agreed that Bosnia will be able to continue to use the Adriatic port Ploce for exports, if Bosnia's animal products match EU standards. This special transit regime will ensure that the export and import of agricultural products can continue after Croatia joins the EU on July 1.

Another important topic they talked about were borders, considering the fact that Bosnia and Herzegovina and Croatia have around 1,000 kilometers of common border. This is significant as Bosnia and Herzegovina will become a neighboring country to the EU starting from July 1st.

Croatian officials said that there will be around 50 crossing points between Croatia and Bosnia, which are being built now and are scheduled to be finished by the April 1st.

It was also agreed between the two neighboring countries that citizens
of Bosnian border towns will get special cards to cross the Croatian
border without passports after Croatia becomes part of the EU. Croatia also said it would ask the other EU countries to allow it for all
Bosnians to cross the border with only identity cards after July 1st.

Croatia's membership of the EU has caused much concern in Bosnia, raising fears that both trade and economy will be affected. Both Bosnia and Croatia want to solve all this in a positive atmosphere to satisfy both countries and their citizens.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/02...adying-for-eu/

[Soldatul Vostru]

Originally Posted by Angel Ramsey

I know one Croation whore who'll be happy. Fucking cunt.

Originally Posted by Angel Ramsey

Pretty much. A stormfront mod, who hated SPARTA.

She's NOT a whore, and she is NOT pro-EU. And she doesn't hate Sparta, in fact their issue was religious in nature. SRBSKA SPARTA is a Christ nut, Hypathia's atheist. What do you expect?

[Serbian]

MARCH 24 2013 21:11h

Swoboda says strong Bosnia is Croatia's interest



Austrian member of the European Parliament, Social Democrat Hannes Swoboda, has said that a strong Bosnia and Herzegovina is Croatia's interest and that he expects future Croatian Social Democrat MEPs to behave accordingly.meaning no support for the legitimate interests of Bosnia's Croats, which are separation from muslim dominated Sarajevo, I am sure that Social Democratic candidates for Croatia's MEPs are focused on citizens' progress and their interest should be that Bosnia and Herzegovina is a strong rather than a weak country, it is not a real country but an artificial construct Swoboda, the leader of the Progressive Alliance of Socialists and Democrats in the EP, said in his interview with the Sarajevo-based Dnevni Avaz daily on Sunday.

The Austrian politician also said that the interests of the Croats, who are the least numerous constituent people in Bosnia, as well as the interest of other peoples should be respected.

However, the interest of every individual is above that, and interests of communities then ensue, he added. Wrong scumbag! The interests of the communities are the interests of the individuals, they cannot be separated. What this marxist is trying to do, in keeping with the long EU tradition in the region, is to destroy the nationalistic tendencies within the Serbian, and to a lesser degree Croat, populations of Bosnia, in hopes that this will make it easier for Sarajevo to 'Bosnianize' them, thereby effectively ending the Serbian and Croatian character of Bosnia.
(Hina)

[Serbian]

Who is Hannes Swoboda?

Political key aspects

Besides his involvement in foreign affairs, Swoboda focuses on economic policies and questions of inclusion, as well as the fight against the rising right wing extremism in Europe. He worked on the question of Roma discrimination in Europe, Swoboda went on several fact finding missions to get to know the situation. The experiences are discussed in his recently published book: Roma - A European Minority

[Serbian]

March 31, 2013 | 15:30

45 percent of Croatians in favor of EU accession

Source: Tanjug

ZAGREB -- 45.1 percent of Croatians believe the EU accession is a good thing, 26.6 that it is both good and bad and 25.5 percent believe that it is wrong to join the EU.



Ipsos Puls conducted the poll on March 27-29.

When asked if they were interested in EU affairs, 57.3 percent of the Croatian citizens said yes, 40.8 percent said they were not interested and 1.8 percent said it had no opinion.

The citizens believe that good sides of the EU accession were studying abroad (76 percent), easier employment in EU member states (72 percent), higher purchasing power and travel to the EU countries (65 percent) etc.

On the other hand, Croatian citizens fear prices of foodstuffs will go up once the country has joined the EU (45 percent), that prices of real-estate would be increased (35 percent) and that it will be harder to find a job in Croatia because the market will be open for the entire EU (32 percent).

[Dawn Cannon]

Originally Posted by Serbian

Who is Hannes Swoboda?

Thoroughly depressing, yet unsurprising to hear of yet another of these creatures and the power they wield. Tikkun olam.

You have been a big champion of Croatia's accession to the EU and worked on issues relating to the Balkans and Turkey – how far can EU enlargement stretch, what would be the maximum footprint the union could ever achieve looking to the decades ahead?

"I genuinely believe that cultural and value-oriented links are more important than geographic boundaries. Within the EU of 27 today we already have a plethora of cultures, religions, histories and identities. The states of the Western Balkan region but also Turkey could join the EU some day.

"The basic accession criteria must of course in all cases be met but as the motto of the EU - 'united in diversity' - states I believe that additional members can have a positive impact on the existing union provided they are ready to join. But, especially, Turkish politicians must recognise that they have a lot to change concerning their attitude to individual freedoms. And they must reduce the often extremely strong nationalistic orientation."


You wrote a book about the plight of the Roma people. Could you tell me the main arguments and findings of your work on this project? It seems as though member states are completely dismissive of any sort of strategy to help the Roma people – at the EU or national level – especially given the lack of funding available to pursue and progressive policies in this area. Is that a fair assessment of the situation in your view?

"There are about 10-12 million Roma people in Europe, which is more than the inhabitants of several of the smaller EU member states. Ignoring any minority but in particular such an important number of people is not feasible or acceptable. My group is fighting for improved services and integration of the Roma people but to do we must take into account their real needs.

"I recently visited a 'Roma house' in Duisburg, Germany, where people can get medical care = where they are helped with administrative tasks and many other things. One important point is completing the free movement of people, also from Bulgaria and Romania - where many Roma come from - so that they can finally have access to basic public services like healthcare and also employment.

"Regarding the funding a lot more can and should be done, but the money must go to where it can actually make an impact; most often in cities themselves. The European structural funds that can finance Roma integration programmes must be allocated to mayors, who know the situation and know the needs. And when there are, for example, surpluses of the national contributions to the EU budget at the end of the year then these should be put towards integration projects."

Read more: http://www.publicserviceeurope.com/a...#ixzz2PITafzJF

[Serbian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiE3ke5CS78&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiE3ke5CS78&feature=player_embedded

[Serbian]

EU Expansion

Little joy - Croatia's path to the EU



In preparing to become the EU's 28th member state in July 2013, Croatia struggles with high unemployment and an ailing industry, among many other problems. Few are in the mood to celebrate.


The words "Mladi, napustite Hrvatsku" ("Youth, leave Croatia") are written in chalk on a small side-street between two houses not far from the city center of Zagreb. The message is an appeal to Croatia's youth to find their future outside of Croatia. Their country, the scrawled message implies, has nothing to offer them.

For five years, Croatia has been stuck in a deep economic crisis. And yet, a 15-page document from Brussels references a country ready for accession. Thus it is with mixed feelings that Croatia continues on its path toward EU entry.


Marko Gregovic: 'Lots of people are apathetic and apolitical'

It's a Saturday morning, with sunlight beaming into the inner courtyard of an old Croatian building. Tables are unfolded, with old books and used clothing stacked upon them.

Stay or go?

"We need money for our campaign, which is why we organize such flea markets," said Marko Gregovic, who, together with his "Za Grad" popular party ("For the City"), hopes to enter Zagreb politics in local elections.

"Lots of people are apathetic and apolitical," he told DW. "They lack a protest culture. People just aren't used to fighting for their rights."

Gregovic even believes that a "generational change" is necessary. "Our politicians are basically the same people who were in power 20 years ago," he said.


Croatia's agricultural sector will be hit hard by EU accession

Gregovic, who studied in Norway, Sweden and England, returned to his country two years ago, at the high point of the financial crisis. "It makes no sense to leave your country, especially one that's slowly going down the drain," he said. "We all have to return and fight for our country."

Yet his colleague, Marija, is preparing for the opposite. For more than a year, she has been searching for a job. Now she's collecting her documents in order to leave Croatia. "Personally, I see the entry into the EU as a chance to find a job abroad," she told DW.


Marko and Marija sell items on the flea market to raise money for the party 'Za Grad'

With youth unemployment at more than 40 percent, many Croatians will soon face a similar decision.

No improvement in sight

Not far from the flea market is "Dolac," a popular weekend market in Zagreb's city center. Large umbrellas block the sun and saturate the piles of mandarins and ripe apples below in red. Home-grown fruit and vegetables are in high demand, and milk products of all varieties form a ring around the market.

Visnja woke early to travel the 60 kilometers to Croatia's capital to set up her stand. Twice a week she makes the trip to sell her "sir," a soft cheese and something of a delicacy, at the price of 2 euros per "loaf."


Visnja travels 60 kilometers to sell cheese on the market

"My husband and I can't live on just the sales here alone," she told DW. "He actually gets a pension, but in order for us to make it, we have to sell geese. Beyond that, we sell what we grow in the garden and, thanks to our cows, we produce this milk."

Croatia's agricultural sector will be hit hard by EU accession. Currently, many of Croatia's agricultural goods are exported to neighboring countries - an arrangement made easy by CEFTA, a free-trade treaty between the Balkan states. But with its entry into the EU on July 1, Croatia will be forced to exit that agreement; its exports to those countries will then be hit with a customs fee.

In addition, Croatia's entry will open its market to products from EU countries. Increased competition will place significant pressure on domestic products – products like those produced by Visnja and her husband.


Food markets in Croatia have plenty to offer

"The prices will drop even more, and then I'll have to ask for even less for my cheese," she said. "At some point, it's just not going to be worth it anymore."

As Visnja speaks to DW, many clients come by but none buy anything. When Croatia enters the EU in July, she will not be among those celebrating.

The good ol' days

Ships are Sinisa Ostojics' passion - and have been for years. For twelve years, he worked for one of the largest shipyards in the country and then for another eight in sales for different firm. For the last five years, he's been working for an association of Croatian shipbuilders.

"In the 80s, we were third worldwide in terms of production volume, after Japan and Korea," he told DW. "We were basically number one in Europe. But then the war came, and everything came to a standstill. Today, we're in 14th or 15th place worldwide."


Ships are Sinisa Ostojic's passion



For years, the Croatian government subsidized all deficits incurred by the shipbuilding industry to keep such traditional Croatian businesses solvent. As soon as possible, Brussels hopes to abolish those subsidies. State subsidies of that sort run counter to EU law, and should they continue after Croatia's EU accession, the shipbuilding industry will have to pay them back. For some ailing shipbuilders, the only option will be to search for investors and take the companies private.

Though these changes will threaten thousands of jobs, Ostojics does not view the EU as "evil."

On the one hand, it does look as if the EU wants to impose some things on us," he said. "But that might be the only chance we have at making our shipbuilders functional and competitive again. Actually, we should have realized it ourselves that it can't go on like this any longer."

Like many of his countrymen and countrywomen, Ostojic will have to wait and see which of his hopes and dreams are fulfilled through EU membership - and which are not.


http://www.dw.de/little-joy-croatias...-eu/a-16780708

[Serbian]

Croatia prepares for EU entry party

By Lajla Veselica (AFP) – 55 minutes ago



A child runs past a billboard marking Croatia's entry into the European Union, June 28, 2013, in Zagreb (AFP/File, Dimitar Dilkoff)


ZAGREB — Croatia on Sunday stages celebrations to mark its historic entry into the European Union as the bloc's 28th member, almost two decades after the end of the Balkan state's bloody war of independence from the former Yugoslavia.

Symbolically, at midnight on Sunday, the "Customs" sign will be removed at a border crossing with Slovenia, the only other former Yugoslav republic that has joined the EU since the breakup of the ex-communist federation in 1990s.

At the same time, the "EU" sign will be put up on the land border with Serbia, another ex-Yugoslav republic with which the bloc agreed on Friday to open membership talks by January.

The two events will be broadcast live at the capital Zagreb's main square, where celebrations to be attended by more than 100 European dignitaries are to be held.

Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" -- the EU's anthem -- will be played after which officials, notably European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso and President Ivo Josipovic, will address those present.

Heads of state from all six ex-Yugoslav republics will attend the ceremony, but leaders of many EU member states -- including Britain, France and Germany -- will not be present.

Thousands of Croatians were also expected to gather at the Zagreb central square where some 700 artists -- singers, musicians and dancers -- will stage performances.

Croatia's cultural heritage as well as key inventions of the Balkan country, ranging from the ultimate menswear accessory -- tie or cravat -- to power transformer, will be showcased.

Croatia will be the first new member of the EU since Bulgaria and Romania joined in 2007.

President Ivo Josipovic told AFP recently that the "celebration will be nice and emotional, and of course modest due to economic situation".

After all, the country has been either in recession or stagnation since 2009 and unemployment stands at about 20 percent.

But the centre-left government hopes that the EU entry would attract badly needed foreign investment and boost the economy.

"July 1 ... opens a completely new perspective, a new world for us," Social Democratic Prime Minister Zoran Milanovic said on the eve of the ceremony.

Tough demands made by the EU in exchange for membership has nevertheless dampened the enthusiasm of Croatians for the bloc. Support for membership is now at just about 50 percent, down from the 66 percent recorded during a referendum last year.

At the same time, EU itself is struggling with recession in nine of its member states and with the eurozone debt crisis.

Figures from the EU's statistics office show that Croatia, which has a population of 4.2 million, would be among the bloc's poorest.

The country's per capita gross domestic product (GDP) is 39 percent below the EU average, with only Romania and Bulgaria behind it.

"300,000 unemployed. Why ... should they celebrate? Does EU have a magic wand to make all problems vanish?" read a comment posted on the government's Facebook account.

But, 48-year-old Tihana Strmecki does not share the view.

"I'm happy ... since we've been always oriented towards West. We will be a part of Europe and I hope that no one will attack this country ever more," said the engineer from the central town of Sisak referring to the bitter 1991-1995 war for independence.

Apart from agreeing to soon open talks with Serbia, EU leaders this week also gave the green light for launching talks on an association deal with Kosovo, the first step on the long path to join the bloc.

Brussels-based analysts believe that the accession of Croatia and opening to Serbia were key milestones for the volatile Balkans, but warn that the EU was pursuing a more cautious strategy than in past enlargements.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...47.141&index=0

[Serbian]

Croats May Enter Serbia With Only ID Cards

As of July 1, Croatians will be able to enter neighbouring Serbia with only ID cards, though Serbs will still need passports to enter Croatia.

BIRN

Serbia has placed Croatia on a list of EU countries whose citizens can enter the country without needing passports.

According to the decision, Croats will also be able to stay in Serbia for up to 90 days without reporting to the police.

The change will come into force on July 1, when Croatia becomes the 28th member of the European Union.

In May 2010, Serbia allowed the citizens of EU countries as well as nationals of Switzerland, Norway and Iceland, to enter Serbia with their ID only.

However, Serbian citizens will still need a passport to enter Croatia, the Croatian news agency, Hina, confirmed.

The same rule will apply to citizens of Croatia's other neighbours in the Balkans, Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro.

Under agreements between the two countries and Croatia, citizens living in designated border areas will be able to enter Croatia using only special border cards, however.

As of July 1, Croatians will not need passports to travel to EU Schengen zone countries.

[Serbian]

[Serbian]

Croatia celebrates historic EU entry

By Lajla Veselica (AFP) – 3 hours ago


A Croatian man celebrates the accession of Croatia to the European Union at Ban Jelesic square on June 30, 2013 (AFP, Dimitar Dilkoff)



ZAGREB — Tens of thousands of Croatians cheered the country's entry into the European Union at midnight Sunday as fireworks lit up the skies above Zagreb.

It was a historic moment for the former Yugoslav republic, coming nearly two decades after it emerged from a bloody independence war in the 1990s.

Some 20,000 people gathered at Zagreb main square, joining more than 100 European dignitaries to mark event on the stroke of midnight (2200 GMT) when Croatia officially became the bloc's 28th member.

"Welcome to the European Union!" European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso told the crowd.

Countdown celebrations were held in towns throughout the country as crowds cheered to the EU anthem, Beethoven's "Ode to Joy", waving EU and Croatia's flags in joy.

Welcoming Croatia into the bloc, European President Herman Van Rompuy said the country had "crossed an important threshold.

"It will change the life of this nation for good," Van Rompuy told the festive crowd in Zagreb.

As thousands of Croatians took to the city squares to celebrate, officials removed the "Customs" sign at a border crossing with fellow EU member Slovenia.

At the same time, the "EU" sign appeared at the land border with Serbia, another ex-Yugoslav republic which on Friday got a green light from Brussels to open membership talks by January 2014.

But the celebrations were overshadowed by economic worries that the membership would only burden already recession-hit Croatia's economy.

"There is nothing to celebrate, it will not get better, prices will jump and we will become a cheap workforce," said 30-year old Zagreb administrator Branka Horvat.

The centre-left government hopes that EU entry will attract badly needed foreign investment and boost the economy with 11.7 billion euros ($15 billion) of potential financial aid.

Croatia's tourism-oriented economy has been either in recession or stagnant for the past four years, while unemployment stands at around 20 percent.

The country's per capita gross domestic product is 39 percent below the EU average, with only Romania and Bulgaria lagging behind, the bloc's figures show.

But Croatian President Ivo Josipovic vowed not to "let the cloud of the economic crisis overshadow our vision and optimism."

"The crisis is a challenge, an invitation to make tomorrow better than today," Josipovic said in his celebratory speech in Zagreb.

A lavish EU entry celebration in Zagreb included performances by some 700 singers, musicians and dancers at three stages decked out in the EU's trademark blue colour.

Nik Kolveshi, 23-year-old student from Zagreb, said Croatia was "finally joining its family."

"Many opportunities will open as we will be officially linked with Europe," he said.

"I am satisfied that we are finally there where we belong, but we are not ecstatic as we have a pile of problems to deal with," said psychiatrist Lukrecija Pavicevic.

But Croatia's branch of global Occupy movement declared: "EU entry is an economic genocide against our citizens."

Prime Minister Zoran Milanovic earlier dismissed fears that Croatia, with a population of 4.2 million, would be an economic burden on the EU.

"At the end of the day we are not a part of the eurozone," he said referring to the crisis-ridden single currency bloc.

In a toast at the official dinner on Sunday, Josipovic described the EU accession as the "end of one stage in Croatia's history and the beginning of a new, European age for us.


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...ad96bcef47.141

[Fico]

First croatian political prisoner in EU is Marko Francišković.
He support death penalty for treason,nationalization banks,write-off of debts with teocracy as form of government,armed people etc.

He don't support EU,priests who don't care with his people especially in his speeches atacked with words Vatican,Croatian general Ante Gotovina,goooverment (former and present) and he told that they are like Pinocio etc,he also open speach about NWO and all fight he see between God and Satan (spiritual war).

The day before referendum about EU, he with his comardes tried remove flag EU (he is the men with long hear),and he told croatian police that they are criminals with police uniforms.

The situation is similar as 1918. when traitors puted Croats in asociation with Kingdom of Serbia,and regime int this Kingdom killed Croats with weapon who want independent state.

Really interest is that interior minister is Ranko Ostojić,mean who have been in quarrel with Marko on FB,Marko told him his dream that he will be hung,and day after he was arested.

NE u EU - Skidanje zastave s Trga bana Jela�ića ,Marko Francišković , Natko Kova�ević - YouTube

NE u EU - Skidanje zastave s Trga bana Jela�ića ,Marko Francišković , Natko Kova�ević - YouTube

Now he is on forced "treatment" because regime say that he are paranoid schizophrenic.
Marko is first Croat who caused fear regime,they are many parties who speak about wrong with EU but they nominated with EU parlament and they are not danger,they really belive that 12 MPs can destroyed EU insade.

Media cenzured this news and situation with him. Much people of Croats don't know that they are arested because he told his dream-you can imagine this control of media and control globalists in global.

You can see also video when he speak on English in Washington

Marko Francišković Govor Washington, DC - Freedom Plaza 08.10.2011 - YouTube

Marko Francišković Govor Washington, DC - Freedom Plaza 08.10.2011 - YouTube

[Fico]

New news

Croatian radio television issused acusation against Marko (who is in voforced "treatment") and his friend Natko because they called croatian radio television (main medium) that she is robbers house mounths ago.
Marko and Natko are first political intelectuals who spoke about NWO publicly.
In ocuppied Republic Croatia rule Rotary and Lions clubs,and similar stakeholders beginning of.