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View Poll Results: confine antis to opposition forum yea or nay?
Yea 16 44.44%
Nay 8 22.22%
Yes and define anti broadly to include all disruptors 9 25.00%
Yes but define anti narrowly 3 8.33%
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Old February 14th, 2005 #41
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Anima is in another category as the anti's, although he deserved to be in the hoosgow to cool off from his flaming. Main difference is, Anima names the jew.

The jews and their servants should be kicked out of the main forums.
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Old February 14th, 2005 #42
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Has 'John Joy Tree' been paying out some shekels in here ?

The removal of the UK MODDY has ensured that the lunatics have arrived.

We have got the porn spammer/Scotland88 back and a few marxist pro-IRA types posting now. Looks rather like anarchy will break out in there.

It appears a senior VNN moderator in the USA isn't what he ought to be
 
Old February 14th, 2005 #43
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One non-american mod is needed, if only because of timezone differences.
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Old February 14th, 2005 #44
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I still say kick all scum anti's off the main board, even though whichever moderator does this is taking a risk. Can't change a mans fundemental beliefs by taking away his moderating privs.

BTW, my removal as moddy was not perpetrated by Alex, so who did it? Someone without the guts to own up.

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Far as I'm concerned Brighton, you were doing a good job. Though I confess I don't spend "that" much time in the brit forum. And you gave the gook the boot, which pleased the crap out of me.

So, who removed BrightonWNP from Moderator status ? He AND Vnn'ers deserve an explanation.
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Old February 14th, 2005 #45
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...So, who removed BrightonWNP from Moderator status ? He AND Vnn'ers deserve an explanation.
Chill out dude. It was just a practical joke. Dig? How can a mod remove another mod? This is just another one of BrightonWNP's pranks. I must admit: He had me fooled for a minute. I wonder if he's on blotter tonight
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Old February 15th, 2005 #46
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whether it was intentional or a bug or a hack we will find out. looking into this.
 
Old February 15th, 2005 #47
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...., surely some here will remember when Georgie removed Franco? ....anything is possible!
Why did he do that?
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Old April 13th, 2005 #48
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Yep. They still come to dinner. I met these folks about the same time as you were conceiving your Eurasian child. They are erudite, worldly people. They have never been to prison and neither have their children. They love and worry about their race the same as I do. Most of them are professional people. I've known them for over 25 years and I trust them with my life. Who are you again?
Does it matter that they've never been to prison? You shouldn't be around niggers no way, no how. Simply by showing yourself with nigs you're telling the world "look, we should all hang out and chill." Sets a bad example, the worst. And you know that. But you choose to be selfish.

There are many, many White women who are molested and raped because they think being around niggers is okay. Because people like you give them that idea.

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There are other problems that afflict white people from other quarters, some from within.
Like Alex Linder wrote about the neocons, the Jew factor is the sine qua non.
 
Old April 14th, 2005 #49
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Have you considered implementing a warning system? If there were a system in place, moderating all new posts could be cut down and only reported flaming, trolls, etc. could be reviewed by moderators/admins. This would help out your work load, as well as cutting down on those who are a problem to the forum. With a warning system in place, Anti's would be free to post, but if they accumulate a specified number of warnings, then they could be confined to Opposition or ultimately banned from the forum.
 
Old April 17th, 2005 #50
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My opinion is that antis should remain confined to the opposition forum.

We lose order by allowing them to post outside of the opposition forum.

We do not gain anything by allowing them to post outside of the opposition forum.

Does meaningful debate suffer? We do not lose the opportunity to debate because antis can still read the content of other threads and debate those points in the opposition forum.

Just my opinion.

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Old April 17th, 2005 #51
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I think that we should go as far as removing those who speak nigger in their posts. Ebonics, or hip-hop language, or whatever the hell you call it has no place among us here. It usually indicates a lack of education and sympathy to the poisonous nigger culture we are already up to our ears in.

What niggers, etc... are doing here in the first place I can't understand, and they should be removed in order to promote productive discourse on relevant issues.

In addition: we should remove anyone not adding benefit to this forum and exist here primarily to stir shit or post derogatory divisive items...

Just my opinion.
 
Old June 17th, 2005 #52
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There should not even be an Opp forum. I have never understood the point of it. We see enough of it everywhere else. These boards could be cleaned up in less than a week, and kept clean very easily. Ban "womyn", ban their sycophants, ban disruptors, excise the Opp forum, and in general just clean house. The wheat must be separated from the chaff. The chaff is pretty obvious. Discrepancies will arise, but they will have to be swallowed.

I nominate myself for moderator. I have plenty of time on my hands at the moment, and can guarantee hygiene on the boards. You will not see a trace of the bickering, smilies or stickies, or whatever other little means of annoyance the lessers employ. Idle threads capped immediately, idle posters banned forthwith. This would all, ideally, produce a more valuable bunch of core members who would also become more familiar with each other and more polished in composure. I realize most of the present moderators are busy people. I am not. I would purge VNNF of the dross in less than a week. We all know who is really valuable here—the moderators, guys like Draco, Doppel, DC, Rounder, KLM, Prozak, and so on. Anyone harping on sexual themes would have to go straightaway; this is not a pornography forum.

Here, as in any kind of grouping, one is faced with the fundamental opposition of chaos and order. This can be called by a dozen other binomes, but the principle is the same: chaos and order. The root of the word order is our very own ar- [as in 'orthodox'], so there can be no quibbling about this: we must bring more order to the forum.
 
Old June 18th, 2005 #53
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There is only one reason I debate in Opp forum: for the guest viewer of discriminating taste. Opp forum has a high viewership, someone once told me he only views VNNF when a member who can debate adroitly, and more or less civilly, is engaged in Opp forum. I don't think he's the only one. My experience suggests Opp forum is a viable propaganda vehicle.
I have noticed that you hold good debates with certain opponents there. And it does have a high viewership, which has always bothered me. Ultimately every standpoint comes out looking hopelessly one-sided on the internet, when "everything is permitted" and no one believes anything. So to me, an Opposition forum is a way for this "everything" to further reduce the potential for VNN's reputation to take hold in the mind of the impressionable viewer. Which type is rarer—the guy whose "light switch" is about to go from off to on, or the one who, after lengthy, civil debate, adopts White Nationalism rationally? I believe most of us here were brought into the fold by Linder's potty mouth. A good joke works better than "on the one hand this, on the other hand that". To paraphrase a somewhat famous author, subtle exegesis is foreign to my way of thinking. I have never felt the need to hash things out with opponents to clarify my views, which in nearly every case seemed to have fallen into my lap, or persuade them thereby. I believe that owing to the nature of (what I will call here) modern semantic loosening, persuasion is a very rare phenomenon, and not one on which I would stake the existence of a forum devoted entirely to enemies, which is thus one of the most popular. On the contrary, it seems to me that long debates are the surest way to kill the seeds of allegiance. But I cannot discount the potential draw of seeing someone like you in an intellectual fencing-match with some kind of enemy. I simply could not countenance any of it and do not believe the returns are worth the investment.
 
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Ban "womyn", ban their sycophants, ban disruptors, excise the Opp forum, and in general just clean house.
very true, sir. Many should be banned. I have been called a Jew, a Jew sympathatizer, a feminist, and a free-range anti. And yet, I am still here.
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We all know who is really valuable here—the moderators, guys like Draco, Doppel, DC, Rounder, KLM, Prozak, and so on. Anyone harping on sexual themes would have to go straightaway; this is not a pornography forum.
Draco??? Draco was banned to opp forum months ago for disruptive behavior. The mods we have here do just fine IMO. We don't need another.
 
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Draco??? Draco was banned to opp forum months ago for disruptive behavior. The mods we have here do just fine IMO. We don't need another.
I disagree. AE is the only moderator I see at work. Which isn't to presume others have had no occasion to exercise their power. I only just started visiting the forum again after a lapse of months, so whatever went on interim is unknown to me.

As for Draco, maybe that is personal bias. I am no longer a "pan-aryanist", but I like him for two reasons: his posts have balls and I appreciate a healthy ultranational standpoint. Maybe it's just one guido sticking up for another, though. There is inevitably an element of favoritism in power; the problem is not favoritism (or power) per se, but the person who is in power and the types he will be inclined to favor. I understand that Draco has been pretty controversial to some, though, and that would be enough in my book to can him.
 
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I disagree. AE is the only moderator I see at work. Which isn't to presume others have had no occasion to exercise their power. I only just started visiting the forum again after a lapse of months, so whatever went on interim is unknown to me.

As for Draco, maybe that is personal bias. I am no longer a "pan-aryanist", but I like him for two reasons: his posts have balls and I appreciate a healthy ultranational standpoint. Maybe it's just one guido sticking up for another, though. There is inevitably an element of favoritism in power; the problem is not favoritism (or power) per se, but the person who is in power and the types he will be inclined to favor. I understand that Draco has been pretty controversial to some, though, and that would be enough in my book to can him.
Dude! Get a clue, you're never going to be made a mod. AE, Chain and Rmac have everything under control.
 
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Dude! Get a clue, you're never going to be made a mod. AE, Chain and Rmac have everything under control.
Dude! Duuuuuude! Dude, would you like a grain of salt with this bowl of fuckoff?

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Dude: How do feel about Dudism, BTW?

Sincerely, Doppel Dude
Historically dude, it is clear that dudism may be considered a crypto-patriarchal phenomenon occurring on the periphery of deconstructed mid-Twentieth Century notions of masculinity, which arose in certain littoral areas and was encoded in the popular psyche by such films as Fast Times at Ridgemont High and Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, dude.

-Mr. Dudis
 
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Oh, of course, that Dude. I enjoy what certain authors have written about the Dude - namely Matthew and John, Nietzsche, Shaw (Androcles and The Lion), and DH Lawrence (The Man Who Died) - and have written of him myself, though Linder, understandably enough, withheld that essay from publication, wherein I somewhat rhapsodically concluded that the Dude's value lay in the model of a Jew overcoming Judaism. (Although Kevin MacDonald should have noticed that the phenomenon of the Disciples was typically Jewish—which often enough grieved the unintentional Master.) I was not raised sub ille signo, and read Hitler and the Zend Avesta before ever reading a word of the Gospel, so my thoughts on the matter were formed mostly late. I have always had an instinctual aversion to the notion of divinity, though at present I am more than capable of enjoying the abstract sense of reverence behind our little word God as good poetry or at the very least as a foil to sheer "godlessness". I find "intellectual" Dudism, which may be what you mean by positive Dudism, positively revolting when found among White Nationalists, as most incongruous and fatally inappropriate to the basic requirements in the prosecution of our cause. I dislike agnosticism, i.e. intellectual pussyfooting, in theology no less than agnosticism in archaeology or philology. When I see Dudism, or the Dudist Church, treated frivolously, for example in a certain modern book which has delighted cunts all over the West, or in little dismissive clichés, I cringe as an antiquarian sometimes does when the past is maligned by idiots. Yet I have no real affection for the Dudist Church, in Rome, Antioch of Moscow, and would love to see St. Peter's occupied by a nigger. I was briefly attracted by the Russian author Leontiev's romantic-authoritarian vision of the Church as a protective hygienic force in Eastern society, capable of supporting diverse cultures in good morals without threatening them with its own monoculture; but so what. I once seriously considered joining a Cistercian monastery or converting to Orthodoxy and retiring to Mt Athos. Of late I have set myself the task of finally reading all of the Dude's Book, simply as the blueprint of all Jewry and to supplement scholarly interests, and like anyone else I am also touched by the beauty of some passages, a few of which are never far from my thoughts; I can recite a few passages in the Greek. I acknowledge certain historical positives and negatives of Dudism, but in general my heart and head have always been inclined to worship at the noble altar of the Reich.
 
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