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Old December 17th, 2009 #81
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For all their merry rainbows and clever euphemisms like "gay," the faggots have no way to defend themselves from someone graphically pointing out the physical reality of what it is they actually do, of what it actually, literally means to be a homosexual. It's their Achilles' heel.

I have not met a single queer who could offer an intelligent counterargument to the CDCs statistics concerning queers and disease. All he can do is call me a "homophobe" and try to shut down the debate, much like the kikesters with their "anti-Semite" smear.

The queers are so used to dealing with looney, ineffectual conservative Bible-thumpers that they have no recourse when someone confronts them with rational, fact-based (rather than religious) arguments.
Well said. Faggots lick hairy ass-holes and eat human man-shit in the process, after sticking their peckers in shit holes or each other's mouths and emptying their slimy semen. Those not sickened just thinking about it, are just as sick as the GD filthy faggots.
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Well said. Faggots lick hairy ass-holes and eat human man-shit in the process, after sticking their peckers in shit holes or each other's mouths and emptying their slimy semen. Those not sickened just thinking about it, are just as sick as the GD filthy faggots.
hey, take it to the other thread.
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Personally, I don't know anyone who is above average intelligence, college educated, and an upper middle class White professional that has the Bible thumping Fred Phelps position on homosexuality.
Well allow me to introduce myself then (though I resent being lumped in with Phelps, as I am not religious).

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It is hard enough to get these people to discuss race and Jews.
Let me repeat myself: anyone who thinks that gay marriage is OK is not going to be responsive to anything you have to say about race or the jews. Period.

There aren't as many Robert Lindsays out there as you think there are. Robert Lindsay is a freak, a teenager in his 50s; why does it even matter what guys like him think?

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Ranting about homosexuals is probably the surest way to get labeled and dismissed as just another rightwing conservative bigot.
What does it matter what you get labeled as by your opponents? In case you hadn't noticed, we already get called all sorts of names, some of which carry a far heavier penalty than "homophobe." I don't care what I get called because I'm not trying to reach the people who would pay attention to such labels.

Linder's right -- you're too preoccupied with respectability. You don't control what is "respectable"; your enemies do. Try to be respectable and you're allowing yourself to be controlled by your enemies.

50 years ago, buggery most certainly was not considered respectable in all but the fringes of society. What has changed since then? Think about that. Who determines what is respectable?

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It is a myth that racialists hatch out of the conservative right, but not the progressive left.
My use of the term liberal has nothing to do with "liberals vs conservatives." To me a liberal is simply a reality-denier. Many conservatives are reality-deniers as well, and I would call them liberals too. I mean, honestly, what's the difference between the conservative and the liberal view of homosexuality these days anyhow? This, and not Fred Phelps, is the typical conservative view of homosexuality nowadays:
http://igoralexander.wordpress.com/2...-are-pathetic/

I happen to be a good example of the demographic you claim to be trying to reach: I have a college education. My IQ is higher than the norm. I come from a nominally middle- to upper-middle class family. My family is extremely liberal, particularly on my mother's side. My mother, an artsy bohemian euroliberal type, had many homosexual friends while I was growing up. So it's just a bit amusing that you're coming at me with this strawman argument (a favorite of the queers themselves) that I must be some backwards Bible-thumping hick because I don't approve of their obnoxious, underhanded, socially-destructive political movement.

To put it bluntly, everything that I see the so-called "gay rights" movement do is consistent with trying to increase the sexual access of queer men to underage boys. And I mean that literally. Any parent who doesn't care about that after learning the facts is downright negligent.

If the people you're trying to reach are truly intelligent, then honesty is your best course. Crude or manipulative propaganda is for the morons.

Of course, it sounds to me like you've swallowed a lot of the propaganda of the homosexual movement yourself.
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btw, let's take this to the exterminaate the queers thread.
You really want to be exterminated, don't you?
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You really want to be exterminated, don't you?
naw, I'd like for you to see me as a fellow white man.
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Well allow me to introduce myself then (though I resent being lumped in with Phelps, as I am not religious).
You share the same point of view. I don't see why you resent the association. Phelps is out there in the streets fomenting hate against homosexuals. Perhaps you should build bridges to that wing of Christianity. Good luck trying to find sympathy for your perspective in the atheist community. You won't find it.

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Let me repeat myself: anyone who thinks that gay marriage is OK is not going to be responsive to anything you have to say about race or the jews. Period. There aren't as many Robert Lindsays out there as you think there are. Robert Lindsay is a freak, a teenager in his 50s; why does it even matter what guys like him think?
That hasn't been my experience. Many of these people pride themselves on their tolerance and openmindedness. I have found that some of them are willing to give me a hearing.

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What does it matter what you get labeled as by your opponents?
It matters a great deal. We are trying to reach out to these people and get them interested in racialism. Why attach racialism to albatross like hatred of gay people?

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In case you hadn't noticed, we already get called all sorts of names, some of which carry a far heavier penalty than "homophobe." I don't care what I get called because I'm not trying to reach the people who would pay attention to such labels.
We're trying to reach a demographic that thinks of itself as enlightened and sophisticated. Their position on homosexuality is considered a huge status marker.

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Linder's right -- you're too preoccupied with respectability. You don't control what is "respectable"; your enemies do. Try to be respectable and you're allowing yourself to be controlled by your enemies.
I haven't sacrificed our core beliefs while chasing after respectablity. As for my attitude on homosexuals, it is not a strategic gambit on my part. I honestly don't have a problem with them. I'm content to let them live their lives provided they don't throw their sexuality in my face.

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50 years ago, buggery most certainly was not considered respectable in all but the fringes of society. What has changed since then? Think about that. Who determines what is respectable?
Americans became more tolerant.

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I happen to be a good example of the demographic you claim to be trying to reach: I have a college education. My IQ is higher than the norm. I come from a nominally middle- to upper-middle class family. My family is extremely liberal, particularly on my mother's side. My mother, an artsy bohemian euroliberal type, had many homosexual friends while I was growing up. So it's just a bit amusing that you're coming at me with this strawman argument (a favorite of the queers themselves) that I must be some backwards Bible-thumping hick because I don't approve of their obnoxious, underhanded, socially-destructive political movement.
The vast majority of people who share your attitude fit that description in some ways.

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To put it bluntly, everything that I see the so-called "gay rights" movement do is consistent with trying to increase the sexual access of queer men to underage boys. And I mean that literally. Any parent who doesn't care about that is downright negligent.
Well, I don't believe in "rights" of any sort, gay or otherwise.

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If the people you're trying to reach are truly intelligent, then honesty is your best course. Crude propaganda is for the morons.
I am being honest with you.
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Old December 17th, 2009 #87
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When you advocate genocide, I think you make Kevin MacDonald look more reasonable. Your position is unthinkable. By comparison, MacDonald merely sounds radical.
And maybe that's the point of going to extremes?

Have you anything to say about the prominent kikes who have openly called for the extermination of the white race? Are they "radioactive"?
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You share the same point of view. I don't see why you resent the association. Phelps is out there in the streets fomenting hate against homosexuals. Perhaps you should build bridges to that wing of Christianity. Good luck trying to find sympathy for your perspective in the atheist community. You won't find it.
And you share the same point of view as militant homosexuals. Good luck finding much sympathy from normal white people with that.

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That hasn't been my experience. Many of these people pride themselves on their tolerance and openmindedness. I have found that some of them are willing to give me a hearing.
So you're trying to convert people who pride themselves on "tolerance and openmindedness" to your hateful and intolerant views towards other races and jews? Makes a lot of sense.

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Why attach racialism to albatross like hatred of gay people?
Why do militant "gay" people consistently ally their movement with movements that are openly anti-white?

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We're trying to reach a demographic that thinks of itself as enlightened and sophisticated. Their position on homosexuality is considered a huge status marker.
You're trying to appeal to a bunch of trendy lemmings who will never buck the status quo and move to your side. What you are trying to do will never happen in a million years.

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I haven't sacrificed our core beliefs while chasing after respectablity. As for my attitude on homosexuals, it is not a strategic gambit on my part. I honestly don't have a problem with them. I'm content to let them live their lives provided they don't throw their sexuality in my face.
Homosexuals have been free to "live their lives" for decades now. That's not what the homosexual movement is about. The homosexual movement is about queers throwing their sexuality in your face.

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Americans became more tolerant.
No, Americans became more intimidated and brainwashed.

Do you realize that your arguments in regards to faggots are identical in every way to those of the civil rights movement?

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The vast majority of people who share your attitude fit that description in some ways.
Perhaps so. And the vast majority of those who don't aren't interested in what a racist neo-nazi piece of trash like you has to say about jews and niggers.

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Well, I don't believe in "rights" of any sort, gay or otherwise.
Sure you do. Your "tolerance" is a tacit endorsement of the homosexual movement.

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I am being honest with you.
Maybe you are, maybe not, but that wasn't the point. The point was, you obviously don't think your target demographic (of which I am a part) is as intelligent as you claim you think it is if you have to candycoat your message and avoid certain issues merely to be heard by it.
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Have you anything to say about the prominent kikes who have openly called for the extermination of the white race? Are they "radioactive"?
This is something of a Straw Man.

Even Susan "the White race is the cancer of human history" Sontag does not publicly affirm support for our physical genocide. If pushed to explain their position, these anti-White radicals will say that they are opposed to "White privilege" and "the notion of Whiteness itself," but they will not call for us to actually be slain to the last man, woman and child. That is certainly what they would like to see happen, but they won't state that in public.

Just about the only people out there publicly calling for our extermination are negro supremacists, such as Black Israelites, and such people are just as marginalised, if not more so, than we are.

Linder tells us that in terms of strategy, we should look to the Jews, look to the Nazis -- look to those who WIN! Well, those who desire our destruction are simply carrying it out, without loudly and publicly stating their intentions to do so.
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This is something of a Straw Man.

Even Susan "the White race is the cancer of human history" Sontag does not publicly affirm support for our physical genocide. If pushed to explain their position, these anti-White radicals will say that they are opposed to "White privilege" and "the notion of Whiteness itself," but they will not call for us to actually be slain to the last man, woman and child. That is certainly what they would like to see happen, but they won't state that in public.
I am aware of that, but if you don't read the fine print, their statements aren't any different than Linder's; and yet their tribe doesn't treat them as lepers. Besides, where's the ambiguity in a statement like "the white race is the cancer of history"? Substitute any other race in that sentence and have a white man saying it and suddenly, no one would buy that he wasn't implying physical extermination. I think my point remains valid.

I'll also point out that I have on more than one occassion had jews tell me, passionately and in all seriousness, that they would like to exterminate the Arabs. Again, why are jews able to get away with such statements but not whites? Years ago some dickhead accused me of wanting to exterminate the jews just for making some mild, inoffensively-phrased remarks about them.

If you even criticize jews, it means you want to exterminate them. Meanwhile, jews threaten and actually carry out genocide and hey, that's just business as usual.
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Sontag and her ilk render statements with deliberate ambiguity by addressing "the concept of Whiteness" as something socially constructed and scientifically invalid. By framing race as an abstraction and not a reality, self-hating liberals may simply proclaim that they disavow "white privilege" in order to divest themselves of "white cancer" baggage. Thus, the "fine print" is what matters when dealing with thinking, bourgeois people.

Yes, our enemies will always distort what we say, but I don't think we should make their job easier by allowing ourselves to be pigeon-holed into caricatures that the Jew media has drawn of us.

Iran's Ahmadinejad is often quoted in the controlled media as saying that he wishes to see "Israel wiped off the map." However, what he actually said is that he wishes to see the aggressive, Zionist Occupation Government [of Palestine] come to an end ("ehtelal bayad az bayn berad"). I have pointed this out to a number of people on campus, both liberal and conservative, who found this distinction very important. In fact, some wondered aloud questions like, "Why would our media collectively distort an already inflammatory geopolitical statement?" and "If they are willing to distort the words of a Statesman, what else are they lying about?"



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I am aware of that, but if you don't read the fine print, their statements aren't any different than Linder's; and yet their tribe doesn't treat them as lepers. Besides, where's the ambiguity in a statement like "the white race is the cancer of history"? Substitute any other race in that sentence and have a white man saying it and suddenly, no one would buy that he wasn't implying physical extermination. I think my point remains valid.
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With all due respect, and not to make light of all this VIP back-and-forth haggling about trivial matters, the bottom line fact is that we need a Hitler-like dictator to make all important decisions about tactics and principles and plenty of fanatical "stormtroopers" to ram them down our squabbling throats.

That's what it's gonna take to unite, organize, and properly educate the lemming masses as well as WNs. And when He comes and swings his iron broom, we'll all love him passionately and embrace his every utterance.

Heil Hitler !!! Sieg Heil !!!
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With all due respect, and not to make light of all this VIP back-and-forth haggling about trivial matters, the bottom line fact is that we need a Hitler-like dictator to make all important decisions about tactics and principles and plenty of fanatical "stormtroopers" to ram them down our squabbling throats.
I do what I can to assist worthwhile projects. What else should I be doing, Glenn? I am not leadership material.

I have noticed you using this term "VIP" for a long time, and I'm still not sure exactly what you mean by it. Did you begin using this label, or was someone actually pretentious enough to refer to himself in that manner?

On the other matter, I concur.

"At the end of time, our Volk Leader will return for the Wild Hunt (Wildes Heer), with his Final Battalion, astride a White Horse, Sleipnir, his eight-legged steed. He will be the Last Avatar, also known as Wotan and Vishnu-Kalki. This time, He will come to conquer and to judge." - Miguel Serrano
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I do what I can to assist worthwhile projects. What else should I be doing, Glenn? I am not leadership material.

I have noticed you using this term "VIP" for a long time, and I'm still not sure exactly what you mean by it. Did you begin using this label, or was someone actually pretentious enough to refer to himself in that manner?

On the other matter, I concur.

"At the end of time, our Volk Leader will return for the Wild Hunt (Wildes Heer), with his Final Battalion, astride a White Horse, Sleipnir, his eight-legged steed. He will be the Last Avatar, also known as Wotan and Vishnu-Kalki. This time, He will come to conquer and to judge." - Miguel Serrano
I picked up the term on here somewhere used in a different context. And I decided to use it against the do-nothing-but-talk intellectuals who flat refused to support VNN's newspaper project either by passing out copies or by contributing financially, or by refusing to help Alex pay VNN's bills.

I tried to shame them into contributing. And in many cases, it worked. PMs flooded my in-box assuring me money was on the way. How else could I have convinced 500 or so WNs to contribute ??

Coincidentally, have you by chance read my article: "Cowardice is the White Man's Survival Strategy" at www.whty.org ?? That too, has been tangibly effective.
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Hmm. Not sure what to say. I deliberately choose words, but not based on their being unusual. There are many ways to say anything. I particularly enjoy in the mock gravitas mode - think Leslie Nielsen. This humorous pretentiousness can call for extra syllables or unusual words. More often than not, though, I'm choosing one term over another because it futhers the sound sequence I'm trying to make, the music. My sentences should provide musical pleasure, if written and read correctly. In addition they are jam-packed with valuable wisdom. Icing and cake...I'm one of those DOUBLE-THREAT bakers!
 
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If I really wanted to, I could spill the beans. You don't know a fraction of what goes on offline. We do have people engaged in real world activism. In contrast, you talk about doing it. Greg Johnson is working with people right now who have been real world activists for quite some time. I have them on speed dial.
I'll just bite my tongue on this one.

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In the 1990's, Sam Francis had Pat Buchanan's ear. In 1992 and 1996, Buchanan was a serious contender for the Republican nomination. Buchanan still commanded a huge base within the GOP at the time. Francis remained an influential figure within the conservative movement until his death. His influence continued to extend far into the political mainstream. While he lost his job at The Washingon Times, other conservative media outlets continued to publish him.
Facepalm closing in. Here's what I see, Hunter. A young guy, who says he's not a conservative, hates conservatism, being sucked into the big professional conservative machine, funneling his time and effort to someone who picked a black running mate...all in the name of white nationalism. "It was all a game; a way of making a living" - Joe Sobran on professional conservatism.

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1.) MacDonald and others have observed that Jews have a certain harmony amongst themselves. They don't wail into each other like we see here.
Jews hate each other. But they present a united front against the enemy, because they know that's the only way they can win. They also know who exactly the enemy is. Our side does not. Your call for no-criticism among the Whites is premature. KM criticized me and my approach. But of course, you are ignoring that and criticizing me. From your perspective, KM was wrong to do that. From mine he was right, if he thinks I/VNN are wrong. But in fact, the VNN strategy is better than his.

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2.) What is your strategy?
Didn't I lay that out up above, in one paragraph? I did. And you didn't respond to it.

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- Marginalize yourself within the movement. Check.
There is no movement. Yet. There will never be one until who we are and who the enemy is, is agreed on. I have been absolutely consistent on that point for ten years. KM and you favor a hazy, undefined anyone-who-sorta-sees-the-same-problem is on our side. That doesn't work. What is does is perpetrate the Anglo-cultural failure pattern that allowed the jews to take over in the first place. It's fundamenally Anglo-conservative. What's funny is that you don't see that

1) KM's approach is conservative
2) Y'all ain't doing nothing except allowing yourself to be coopted by the professionals. You should be attacking those you are sucking up to. Like I said before, you'll probably be about my age when you finally figure this out. I know it's excitintg that you have intelligent men listening to you, and publishing your articles, but it's blinding you to the professional conservatism you're being drawn into.

The entire point of our "thing" ought to be to establish a new and radical approach. Not to be coopted by professional seducers and marketers like Team Buchanan.

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- Make yourself radioactive by advocating genocide. Check.

Meh. You need to figure out whether you believe your Overton bs or not. If you really do, then you ought to be glad for me saying it. Perhaps you don't understand why I say it, but it's for the same reason I say anything: I believe it is correct.

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- Abandon what you are actually good at (writing). Check.
I write plenty. Speak plenty too.

- Create as much division within the movement as possible. Check.

We don't agree on who "we" are. There can be no movement, hence, no division between it, until that is settled. MacDonald wants a nation with blacks in it, has no problem associating, praising and working with jews like Gottfried - that's nothing I am part of, or anyone around here wants, to be sure. I support KM the jew-critic, the quote-digger. I give him credit for the work in his trilogy. I don't support anybody who sucks up to PC conserva-liberals like Buchanan and the various paleocons. MacDonald sees as friends and helpmates those I see as enemies. There's no way to gloss over this difference in approach. It's not division on either of our parts, it's two very different conceptions.

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You would have us abandon civility, decency, propriety, manners, and morality.
Not toward the in-group. And the proof is that I don't allow here 1/10th of the garbage you allow in every thread on OD. You can't come here as an anonymite or child molester and accuse others of being federal agents. You can do that at OD.

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With this grand strategy of yours, who do you expect to reach? Honestly, who is going to listen to someone who advocates murdering little girls because they are Jewish? No one but kooks, sociopaths, and mental defectives.
Who advocates murdering jewish girls? When I look around, all I see is White girls getting murdered, and jewish girls and boys putting in the policies that lead to it. I think the actions and advocacy of these jewish girls and boys merits a response. You go on being civil, though.

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When you advocate genocide, I think you make Kevin MacDonald look more reasonable. Your position is unthinkable. By comparison, MacDonald merely sounds radical.
So why complain then. I'm helping you, even if against my will, it must be to you. My position is not unthinkable to jews in relation to us, nor is it unthinkable to the tens of million of Americans who want to turn the middle east into a sheet of glass. All depends on who controls the satellite uplinks. My job is to put the idea out there, whether or not I can execute it. As I proved by posting the argument, there is no intelligent opposition to it - just a bunch of shock-adjectives.

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Simple. We create discursive spaces that stretch from the margins to the mainstream. These are conduits that enable sympathizers to find White Nationalism. We have sympathizers in key positions along this ladder who draw attention to a more radical position.
This is cute, and really kind of funny, if it weren't for the stakes. Do you think the left isn't aware of what we'd like to do? Do you think the jews are fools?

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This is false. I know this for a fact.
Meh. What, does one of Brown Johnson's buddies own some tv station out in the sticks?

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Amren is an excellent example. Taylor has created a discursive space that is less radical than my own. He teaches people the basics of racial consciousness. That's his assignment. This is the essential precondition of getting them to care about other more radical issues. We need a chain of these spaces that are progressively more moderate and stretch into the mainstream.
This quaint idea that people need to be "taught" about race, where does it come from? If Whites need to be taught, surely niggers will do all the teaching. The only formal ed required concerns jews, which is precisely the class Jared Taylor doesn't teach, and forbids being taught. You don't have to teach 'white flight'; whites naturally move away from niggers. The reason they have to points up the real problem - they have no political leadership. That's not a problem that education and essays are going to solve.

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I would attribute that to the stupidity and individualism that prevails on the Right. This is a serious obstacle, but a tractable one.
Would it be impolite were I to emit a small laugh? It's a good deal more than a "serious obstacle." It crushes the theory you're operating on to death.

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Derbyshire gave publicity to MacDonald's work. That is far more important than his review. It created a path from conservatism to White Nationalism that sympathizers can travel down.
Nah, not really. The kikes used one of their shabbies to shit on a jew critic. Interesting for a few moments, but nothing comes of it. The status quo is reinforced in that anybody, even a PhD with manners, who criticizes the jews, is mentally and morally defective. So go back to sleep, children. It doesn't help because the victim is unwilling to fight back. And the victim's, uh, not to say fanboys, uh, young supporters, proclaim his beshitting a great victory. Silly. The victory would be if KM took back his leg and power-booted Derbyshire in the nuts. Maybe that would teach the race-mixing Anglo cunt, who admits he's a coward, some respect. It would also win KM some fans. It would show that he really believes what he's saying, is not going to take shit from cheapjack shabbes goyim like brown Derbyshire.

Politics is in many ways about perception. I don't see how any outsider could interpret the KM-D review exchange as anything but confirmation of status quo. Jews on top. Anyone, even PhD, who crits them is evil.

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What is your strategy? How do you plan to get publicity for VNN? In my review, I mentioned a whole host of names, including your own. I got the name "Alex Linder" and "Goyfire" and "VNN" all mentioned ... at Amren. That puts you a Google click away from getting discovered by Amren readers. I created a path from Amren to VNN.
AmRen's readers, ten years into its game, are useless saps. Anyone interested in getting past Taylor's boring repetitious whining long since would have found us. Not saying the mention hurt, just saying it's not really a big deal.

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Derbyshire has drawn attention to HBD and MacDonald's work within the mainstream. Would you prefer he had not?
No. Just saying in the overall scheme it is meaningless.

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They don't have to promote our ideas. If they attack us, they give us free publicity. The biggest obstacle in our way is the "dynamic silence" policy that the MSM uses to keep us isolated on the fringe.
But you're going to work through this by...writing essays and making phone calls to shadowy figures with more power than I think.

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Derbyshire and Buchanan spread out memes inside the conservative mainstream all the time. Sailer has a huge following in the mainstream. Don't think that so called "respectable conservatives" aren't reading our material.
Yeah, so. I read Buchanan. It still doesn't change the power equation.
 
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Newsflash: Jews existed prior to the Civil War. They have undermined all the people of the earth with whom they've come into contact. There were jews behind the French Revolution, and behind the American Revolution. Read E. Michael Jones's _The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit_, and get his magazine "Culture Wars."
This is true - there was a lot more jewish influence a lot earlier than people think. It is also true that professional jew-exculpators & bolthole providers, by which I refer directly to Jared Taylor, deliberately lie about this fact in order to encourage their suckers to blame Whites rather than jews. Taylor does the same thing with regard to Nordic counties. He ignores the fact that the media in those countries are owned by jews, just as they are here. Taylor deliberately deceives his readers and listeners, and he does it in routine and predictable ways, revealing the pattern and indicating the motive. His entire mission and purpose is to prevent Whites from seeing that jews are responsible for America's racial problems. To that end there is no fact he will not cover up, and no post he will not suppress if the facts about the jews threaten to escape to his readers. Which is why, as time goes by, his readers are fewer. It's harder to keep up bs poses and cover stories when people are one click from a site telling the truth.

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b. He's a crypto jew, infiltrating WN to blame White people for getting cancer instead of blaming the cancer.
Don't call him a jew, or even a crypto-jew, unless you have proof. That's against the rules here. If you have actual EVIDENCE he's a jew, then post it.

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They are not a COMPETITOR in the honorable sense, and we have not been bested in a fair fight. They're demons who have poisoned us, dogs who have ripped out the throats of our loved ones. You don't respond to that by blaming yourself and declaring: "The problem isn't them. It's ME...! Boo hoo, boo hoo!!!" You respond to that by KILLING THE JEWS.
Exactly. But the conservatives want to pretend we can win by being fair and reasonable.

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You're a liar. Linder solicited money once for a legal defense fund for someone else. He has never solicited money for himself. (New America used to do that, in the comments section of the main site. Remember his "Send Alex $50" mantra? But that wasn't Linder.)
We do solicit donations. Sometimes for general things, sometimes for specific things, like the paper or the Doles fund you allude to. I only EMPHASIZE donations when I am writing daily and doing full editorial functions. That has not been the case the last couple years as I was sick and often gone. I only mention them occasionally in order to pay for our server bills, which are about $1k a year.

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I'm getting sick of these Stormfart types popping up with their little suspicious comments to the effect that "Linder is okay, but we need to take the focus off the jews." "Let's not blame the jews for this." "We need to de-emphasize all the anti-jewish stuff." "Don't look at the jews - look over here, instead! Look over there! Look anywhere but at the kike!" "It just isn't nice or rational to talk against the jewish faith," etc. etc.

Seems there are a lot of these suspicious types popping up lately.
HW is willing to criticize jews. Where we disagree is on the correct strategy for WN to take power.
 
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Relax, nut hugger.
An etymological question - did this term 'nut-hugger' begin among the MMA crowd? I saw it somewhere else in that context, and now I see it popping up here. Where did it originate, if you know?
 
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HW is willing to criticize jews. Where we disagree is on the correct strategy for WN to take power.
Indeed. I have an entire website dedicated to this. No one can accuse me of ignoring the Jewish Question.

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No, I don't. I chalk it up to Lindstedt's usual hyperbole. I've grown accustomed to it.
It's not hyperbole at all. It's attempted character assassination, which he posts wherever lets him. Few things are more damaging of community, even virtual community, than giving free rein to congenital liars and character assassins.
 
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