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Old November 15th, 2014 #21
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If Williams doesn't have the sense to get rid of Strom he's not qualified to join a White organization, let alone lead one.
VNN serves as a great function to utilize a method of culling the riff-raff
from membership in the NA.


 
Old November 15th, 2014 #22
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What's this about a new focus on Cosmotheism?

http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1...&postcount=134
 
Old November 15th, 2014 #23
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As for Gliebe naming anybody as his replacement for the office of chairman in the midst of a court battle over his mismanagement of the organization is very dubious, and may in fact be illegal. I for one do not think Will Williams is an unprincipled opportunist.

Will Williams must understand that Kevin Strom cannot be the face or the voice of the NA; even if all the charges against him are false, he has been branded by the courts as being involved in child pornography.
The people I know will never accept an NA that has Strom on the air every week as the voice of the NA.
Strom, as a purely practical matter, should step back from the microphone, permanently. I do not see sufficient reason to bar membership from the new organization, but I know others disagree with that.

The two sides need to come to the table, look each other in the eye, state what they want to see happen, and work something out.
People need to know that Gliebe is truly and totally out and that he has not been paid off, to know how the selection of Williams came about, and what is the status of the “board of directors”. The NA cannot go forward under the same board that supported Gliebe in the face of incompetence, inaction and malfeasance. The legal action against Gliebe must be regarded as meritorious and those behind it rewarded as such ( rewarded as in having fitting positions within Dr. Pierce’s hierarchy of service).

Maybe to two sides can operate as semi independent units (separate finances and open books, and regular meetings between the two sides) under a nominal head until the right course of action is more clear.
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Old November 15th, 2014 #24
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he has been branded by the courts
I have been branded by the 'courts' as well. So?
 
Old November 15th, 2014 #25
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VNN serves as a great function to utilize a method of culling the riff-raff from membership in the NA.
Facepalm.

At this rate it won't be long before the NA consists of Strom, Williams, you and three undercover agents shortwave broadcasting from a tarpaper shack.
 
Old November 15th, 2014 #26
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Facepalm.

At this rate it won't be long before the NA consists of Strom, Williams, you and three undercover agents shortwave broadcasting from a tarpaper shack.
Perhaps you should consider passing this vital information on to the
NA National Office for advisement:

http://www.whitebiocentrism.com
 
Old November 16th, 2014 #27
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People need to know that Gliebe is truly and totally out and that he has not been paid off, to know how the selection of Williams came about
Here is a good place to start:

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More can be found here:

http://www.whitebiocentrism.com
 
Old November 16th, 2014 #28
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Here is a good place to start:

Attachment 9343

More can be found here:

http://www.whitebiocentrism.com
Is the Sept. 2014 Bulletin on line? A search of the site for "bulletin" yields zero results.
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Old November 16th, 2014 #29
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Is the that Sept. 2014 Bulletin on line? A search of the site for "bulletin" yields zero results.
Be assured that I did not create that image out of my imagination.
Feel free to contact Chairman Williams at your discretion. He is
not hard to find.
 
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Be assured that I did not create that image out of my imagination.
Feel free to conact Chairman Williams at your discretion. He is
not hard to find.
I did not accuse you of faking the image of the bulletin. However, saying, 'look at this evidence' when the evidence is not actually available, is not intellectually honest.
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I did not accuse you of faking the image of the bulletin. However, saying, 'look at this evidence' when the evidence is not actually available, is not intellectually honest.

If your interest is genuine and wish to use the privacy mode on
this site, provide a surface mail address, and I will be glad to
send a hard copy to you.
 
Old December 20th, 2014 #32
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Those NARRG idiots have me in their imaginary organizational chart of the National Alliance when I have fuckall to do with it.

If they had any brains they'd figure out that once Gliebe handed it off to Will Williams the game was over. I am sure it must suck for Jim Ring to have put in all that effort and to see somebody else enjoy the victory, but that's the way things work out sometimes, and throwing a fit isn't going to change it.

He could have approached Will Williams about cooperating but instead he's burning his bridges and wasting energy barking at the Moon. What an idiot.
 
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Those NARRG idiots have me in their imaginary organizational chart of the National Alliance when I have fuckall to do with it.

If they had any brains they'd figure out that once Gliebe handed it off to Will Williams the game was over. I am sure it must suck for Jim Ring to have put in all that effort and to see somebody else enjoy the victory, but that's the way things work out sometimes, and throwing a fit isn't going to change it.

He could have approached Will Williams about cooperating but instead he's burning his bridges and wasting energy barking at the Moon. What an idiot.
Everybody wants to be a chief, but nobody wants to be an Indian. How infantile!

 
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Those NARRG idiots have me in their imaginary organizational chart of the National Alliance when I have fuckall to do with it.

If they had any brains they'd figure out that once Gliebe handed it off to Will Williams the game was over. I am sure it must suck for Jim Ring to have put in all that effort and to see somebody else enjoy the victory, but that's the way things work out sometimes, and throwing a fit isn't going to change it.

He could have approached Will Williams about cooperating but instead he's burning his bridges and wasting energy barking at the Moon. What an idiot.


Sure.

If you didn't or you don't have "fuckall" to do with it, "Hadding",
then why "comment" on your blog and/or censor the whole truth
that was being provided and instead slander the messenger with
WWW lies and hypocrisy? All you do by doing so is just sacrifice
any credibility that you may have had and are just another troll
that's covering up for WWW own very poor behavior and unwise
decisions in hiring and promoting and firing with "butt-hurt" the
three employees he had hired to help him to restore the WV NA
HQ such that these ran to the SPLC and to LE only because of it.

See:
http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1973355&postcount=1
and
http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1985146&postcount=2

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Old February 2nd, 2016 #35
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What's this about a new focus on Cosmotheism?

http://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=1...&postcount=134
That "new focus" was actually just a "bait and switch", JM.

It was confirmed bogus by me with all of WWW own and
many "unwise decisions" and that led him towards all of
his own "most recent troubles" or from RD, GD, and MO.

Would the late Dr. Pierce behave with such lying hypocrisy and
censorship and get arrested twice in one week for being such a
clown or posting pathetic excuses for all of his ignorant bullying
at StormFront?

If WWW had any sense of Aryan dignity and honor he would not
behave this way and would have resigned the Chairmanship and
held himself accountable for all of these snafus. Don't hold your
breath, though, Jimmy. Not before his recouping his investment!
 
Old April 5th, 2016 #36
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What's this about a new focus on Cosmotheism?
There are two factors in play here.

One is that Will Williams is inherently religious. Williams was a Christian, but then turned rabidly anti-Christian. Yet, Williams cannot give up his religious beliefs.

The second is that Cosmotheism sells because (1) it came from Dr. Pierce, and (2) it is poorly defined. Dr. Pierce only wrote down a few things on Cosmotheism. So like “living Christianity” or the “living Constitution,” Cosmotheism is loosely constructed or defined. People define Cosmotheism to fit their own already-held beliefs.

Will Williams own paranormal beliefs go far beyond conventional religion. Williams and his wife pay three separate psychics (Eurasian witch doctors), to forecast the future. Williams said one is “hot” and another has forecast the White race is doomed to be destroyed by interbreeding. Did Williams’ psychics’ ability to predict the future aid Williams’ flawless decision making and his sound hiring of employees?

Williams claims at times to be Pontifex Maximus or Pope. Williams’ employees have heard him exert his authority by bellowing, “I am the Pope,” and “I am the God Damned Pope.”

On two occasions, Williams erased what was on the dry erase board in the main office building. Once he wrote words, “I am the Pope of the CCC.” The other he wrote Pontifex Maximus.

No adopted title or claim will ever provide to Pretenders to the throne even a fraction of the respect and authority that Dr. Pierce had. One has to earn respect; one can’t just buy it.
 
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Bumped, for Dr. Bob's post above. Spot on.
 
Old February 6th, 2017 #38
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That "new focus" was actually just a "bait and switch", JM.

It was confirmed bogus by me with all of WWW own and
many "unwise decisions" and that led him towards all of
his own "most recent troubles" or from RD, GD, and MO.

Would the late Dr. Pierce behave with such lying hypocrisy and
censorship and get arrested twice in one week for being such a
clown or posting pathetic excuses for all of his ignorant bullying
at StormFront?

If WWW had any sense of Aryan dignity and honor he would not
behave this way and would have resigned the Chairmanship and
held himself accountable for all of these snafus. Don't hold your
breath, though, Jimmy. Not before his recouping his investment!
NARRG took this comment a bit out of context on their site.
See:
http://www.narrg.com/2017/01/judge-r...hlin-standing/

The "bait and switch" was in reference to Cosmotheism being the spiritual heart of Williams' new NA.
It actually isn't. And neither is nor was NARRG.
Both these two orgs. and their leadership have betrayed Dr. Pierce's own true legacy: Cosmotheism,
thereby.

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Old February 6th, 2017 #39
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There are two factors in play here.

One is that Will Williams is inherently religious. Williams was a Christian, but then turned rabidly anti-Christian. Yet, Williams cannot give up his religious beliefs.

The second is that Cosmotheism sells because (1) it came from Dr. Pierce, and (2) it is poorly defined. Dr. Pierce only wrote down a few things on Cosmotheism. So like “living Christianity” or the “living Constitution,” Cosmotheism is loosely constructed or defined. People define Cosmotheism to fit their own already-held beliefs.

Will Williams own paranormal beliefs go far beyond conventional religion. Williams and his wife pay three separate psychics (Eurasian witch doctors), to forecast the future. Williams said one is “hot” and another has forecast the White race is doomed to be destroyed by interbreeding. Did Williams’ psychics’ ability to predict the future aid Williams’ flawless decision making and his sound hiring of employees?

Williams claims at times to be Pontifex Maximus or Pope. Williams’ employees have heard him exert his authority by bellowing, “I am the Pope,” and “I am the God Damned Pope.”

On two occasions, Williams erased what was on the dry erase board in the main office building. Once he wrote words, “I am the Pope of the CCC.” The other he wrote Pontifex Maximus.

No adopted title or claim will ever provide to Pretenders to the throne even a fraction of the respect and authority that Dr. Pierce had. One has to earn respect; one can’t just buy it.
Actually, Cosmotheism is quite "well defined", Dr. Bob.
Read the Trilogy: The Path, On Living Things, and On Society,
for yourself.
See:
https://archive.org/details/Cosmothe...amLutherPierce

Williams just ignores the "ethics implied in all of them" because he isn't any true Cosmotheist, whatsoever.
No such lying hypocrite like Williams is or has been can be any true Cosmotheist.
That also may explain his ignorant bullying and all of his lying hypocrisy and censorship of honest critics.

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Old February 6th, 2017 #40
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Actually, Cosmotheism is quite "well defined", Dr. Bob.
Read the Trilogy: The Path, On Living Things, and On Society,
for yourself.
Paul, read, I think, chapter 13 of The Fame of a Deadman's deeds for what Dr. Pierce said about those pamplets.

I spent five months of my life, all alone up on The Land putting in order everything in the Main Building, Memorial Hall, NVB warehouse, Gate House, and Farmhouse.

I read through Dr. Pierce's files concerning his fight with the IRS and the planning of a private school related to his efforts to acquire a 401(c)(whatever the number for religion) status.

Dr. Pierce went the whole nine yards to jump through the hoops. Bought an upright piano, a hundred or so hymnals (the hymns were great!), and paying to improve Boyd Thompson road. Then he had to buy more chairs.

Not much more about Cosmotheism until it's 25th anniversary when Dr. Pierce had some pens and pocket calendars made.
 
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