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Old August 14th, 2017 #441
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When 'be like the Jews' is the theme song one has to do very little 'Aryan-soul' searching to see a pattern.
Couldn't have put it better.

"Be like the jews" is definitely the theme song of this totally off-the-wall thread; and a careful read of this wily windbag's posts from page one will confirm that. Not once, in twenty-three pages to date, does he say, or even imply, anything negative about God's Precious Darlings and their Agenda; and those unfortunate enough to have just run into this thread ought to keep that in mind as you scratch your heads trying to figure out just what in hell this yidiot's yammering about. He goes to great lengths in an attempt to be subtle, but he's as obvious as a boner in sweatpants, as transparent as a newly-Windexed window -- we see right through him. Yet he persists in shrugging it all off and merrily skates around the real issues confronting Whites/Aryans in their fight for survival: him and his kind.
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Old August 15th, 2017 #442
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Aryanism is very different from Judaism, or the other two Abrahamic religions. Major differences include:
  • there is no Bible or Quran, there is only the race-soul
  • there is no belief, there is only understanding and not understanding
  • the goal isn't to obey or love or submit to a deity, the goal is to be Aryan
Aryans are not children of Abraham.
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Old August 15th, 2017 #443
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Aryans are not children of Abraham.
No shit, Shylock. Which begs the question: Where do you, an admitted child of Abraham, the very antithesis of Aryanism, get off lecturing bona fide Aryans on what Aryanism is and isn't?

Now you folks see the meaning of "gall" in his last name. He's sure 'nuff got plenty of it.
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Old August 17th, 2017 #444
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C'mon, you jew scumbag. Bring it...
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C'mon, you jew scumbag. Bring it...
When the Jew shizznit gets called out he waits a while, then starts anew as if he missed what you said. Oy, dats clever.

I'd say the Vedic writings are something that are actually 'Aryan' and are the oldest religious writings in the world, back to 1500 BCE.

It's where he gets the 'understand and not understand', as Aldous Huxley was into reading the Vedas and Yoga, and he is a Huxley fan. All of that is 'Aryan'.

Then...we mix in a little made up 'Otherism' shit so that we feel 'guilty' for recognizing we have enemies....then we talk up how not-so-bad Jews are, they are swimming through life cuz so wonderful is their sicko religion (not a 'Cabal' that is quite evil and involved killing a lot of people to get to the top)...mix in some 'politeness' and 'kind' conjecture, and whaddayahave?

You have the recipe for bullshit stew. The Aryan flavorings are supposed to mask the taste of the (((bullshit))).
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Old August 18th, 2017 #446
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When the Jew shizznit gets called out he waits a while, then starts anew as if he missed what you said. Oy, dats clever.

I'd say the Vedic writings are something that are actually 'Aryan' and are the oldest religious writings in the world, back to 1500 BCE.

It's where he gets the 'understand and not understand', as Aldous Huxley was into reading the Vedas and Yoga, and he is a Huxley fan. All of that is 'Aryan'.

Then...we mix in a little made up 'Otherism' shit so that we feel 'guilty' for recognizing we have enemies....then we talk up how not-so-bad Jews are, they are swimming through life cuz so wonderful is their sicko religion (not a 'Cabal' that is quite evil and involved killing a lot of people to get to the top)...mix in some 'politeness' and 'kind' conjecture, and whaddayahave?

You have the recipe for bullshit stew. The Aryan flavorings are supposed to mask the taste of the (((bullshit))).
Bingo, baby, bingo! Couldn't have better analyzed this douchebag myself.

(Smart chick, this one.)
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Old August 27th, 2017 #447
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"Whites" (WNs, etc..) aren't a race, they're a cult. What holds them together is Otherism - a dogmatic belief that Jews are our enemy. You cannot be "pro-White" without being "anti-Jew".

Aryans are a true race, bound together by the race-soul. Jews and non-Aryans are not, a priori, our enemies. We are not guided by Otherism, but by the race-soul. I don't say this to 'guilt' or put down WNs, but just as a statement of fact.

I want to make another point, though, which is that Linder/VNN is different from other websites in that he gives dissident voices like mine a platform. Free speech is the enemy of cult-like mentalities, and any website that allows dissident voices should never be silenced - if you disagree with the opinions expressed you are always able to present your own.
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"Whites" (WNs, etc..) aren't a race, they're a cult. What holds them together is Otherism - a dogmatic belief that Jews are our enemy. You cannot be "pro-White" without being "anti-Jew".
Eugenics was smashed down even though it is a valid science. Galton and his ilk were stopped from making biological observations regarding differences in people.

A 'cult' mentality is present in all kinds of places, and sure as hell with Zio Jews.

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Aryans are a true race, bound together by the race-soul.
No, we are 'bound together' as a genome, there is no soul, that is indeed 'cult' talk. You can flip the word to have whatever meaning you want, but it's a nonsense word at the end of the day. Not like 'DNA' or 'genome', but like 'foo foo powder'.

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Jews and non-Aryans are not, a priori, our enemies. We are not guided by Otherism, but by the race-soul. I don't say this to 'guilt' or put down WNs, but just as a statement of fact.
Funny you only point out Jews, then accuse others of this. Jews own media and World Bank, do they not?

You won't answer that, you'll dance around it.

We have biological struggles against 'others' and that is not per choice.

When blacks ruin Camden and Detroit we have to face that 'other' who did it and figure out what kind of world we want to live in.

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I want to make another point, though, which is that Linder/VNN is different from other websites in that he gives dissident voices like mine a platform. Free speech is the enemy of cult-like mentalities, and any website that allows dissident voices should never be silenced - if you disagree with the opinions expressed you are always able to present your own.
That part is spot on, yup.

Do you, George, or do you not believe that Jews as a race and religion fit the Lifton BITE model for a mind-control cult?

The criteria: they control
Behavior
Information control
Thought control
Emotional control

Lifton is a Jew. He bases this on the thought reform used in Chinese Communism, the methodology for gaining control over people.

And yet Jews fit this to a tee.

Orthodox Jews are not allowed to watch tv, read books of their choosing, nor even listen to adult women sing in Israel amongst the most religious.

So that's behavior and information control.

Thought control is in making people feel guilty for going against the group--telling them that any thoughts like that are 'evil' and putting in place 'thought stopping techniques'.

Emotional control means you are not free to express dissent--goes along with thought control. They also control what people are doing at all points in their life and either whip them into hysterics (like you see in Churches, or with Jews in repetitive praying and wailing at the wall type of behavior), or they whip them into anger at the 'other' (Palestinians or goy), or whatever is useful to the leaders of the group.

So just because you can find that among Whites doesn't mean you don't have it with Jews.

Your focus on defense of Jews is what is not adding up if you have an Aryan religion, you'd not be keen on defense of those who wish to destroy us.

You certainly wouldn't say we aren't a 'race'. Consult Galton, and all the others who tried to do honest research re phenotypes and behavior who were told to shut-up.

That is what is 'otherism'---never being allowed to be critical of the (((other))).
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Old December 10th, 2017 #449
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Aryanism isn't just about preserving and advancing the DNA of our Aryan ancestors; it's also about preserving and advancing the non-genetic heritage of our Aryan ancestors. In this sense Aryanism is like Judaism, a people and a religion, "race" and "soul", inseparable.

But the similarity ends there. Aryans are of a different stock than Jews, and have different histories and traditions, different sensibilities and approaches to knowledge and culture; where Jews have great Rabbis and Torah to draw inspiration from, we have our own heroes who stood on the shoulders of giants of yore, and who beckon us to stand on their shoulders, so that we may further the race-soul.
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Old May 18th, 2018 #451
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Aryanism isn't a religion, it's an exploration of your heritage, racial and spiritual. Your heritage as an Aryan isn't something dead that is only to be found in dusty tomes and dry academic lectures; no it comes from within you, guiding you at every step in your life, imbuing every step in your life with meaning and purpose.

Discover your Aryan self, and you discover your true self.
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Aryanism isn't about letting your enemies walk over you, while preaching moral high ground as justification for showing enemies who seek to destroy you - quarter. That's how the (((they))) want us to be. That's the poison that Saul of Tarsus intended for the consumption of the Roman Empire. Which was ultimately defeated by that very ideology.

In the past, Aryan goals as a society were to expand our territory, and influence, as well as set the bar for civilization. There are windows of history where Aryan civilization had its potential retarded due to semitic influences, and that's a mistake that we can overcome in the future, if we're ever going to realize our true potential.

Aryans in the past understood that you can't show lesser races how superior you are with compassion. The only thing some races understand, and this includes jews, is a display of force. Compassion will always be perceived as weakness by them. Compassion is for your Aryan brothers and sisters, not your enemies.

I don't believe colonialism, or territorial expansion is necessary at the moment, but there were advantages to expanding territory in the past. Our current goals should be keeping what is ours. We're on the defensive, and people preaching "turn the other cheek" type nonsense, regurgitated in a different stew of bile - are doing the work of the enemy. Regardless of how you try to frame it.
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Old May 19th, 2018 #453
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The danger is allowing yourself to be defined by your enemies. White Nationalism comes out swinging at everyone who isn't a WN. Then WNs use the fact that they are besieged on all fronts as their cause and the core of the movement. In a world without self-made enemies, White Nationalism couldn't exist. It's no different really than Black Nationalism which uses the White Man as the archetypal satan to forge black identity.

Aryanism is different, it's based on us rather than them. That's not to say Aryans turn the other cheek, or are naive when it comes to our enemies. Anyone who chooses to be our enemy will be met with no quarter. But we don't seek to make enemies in an attempt to define who we are.

Figuring out who we are is the real challenge. If we are successful in figuring out who we are, the threats posed by any external enemies will be mere trifles.
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Our societies and culture have become thoroughly jewed, as in less and less resemblance to anything Aryan with each passing generation under (((their))) authority. Whites are being defined by the enemy whether you like it or not. It's a fact that cannot be ignored.

If anyone takes a close look at American culture, I don't see the positive influence of Aryan culture here anymore. We've become niggerized and judaized. Everything from our political system, to our national past times, our music, art, literature, education, etc - all niggerized and judaized.

In fact, Julius Streicher pointed this out back in 1944 in a piece called "What is Americanism?", and it's considerably worse now.

Whites have mostly lost their identity as a people in the last century or more of foreign influences.

There isn't going to be an easy way, or a clean way to set things straight. We're far beyond a peaceful, bloodless revolution. We're so far off track of the direction we need to be going, that it's going to require a political and cultural paradigm shift to get us back on track, and not every Nation is going to be able to accomplish this. But the likelihood of this happening increases dramatically in climates of social and economic instability. In order for Whites to redefine themselves, they're first going to have to be pushed out of their socio-economic comfort zones.
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I don't see anything Aryan or admirable in White Nationalism. WNs excel at fantasizing how they'll get revenge on their enemies once they take over the world, and they excel at blaming and bickering, that kind of stuff, but that's about all they excel at.

Every WN leader who puts himself out there is torn down or ridiculed by a segment of WNs, because that's the kind of person who is attracted to WN: low quality misfits who try to tear down others in order to feel good about themselves. That's why there are no successful WN communities in real life, despite talk about PLEs and taking over small towns in North Dakota (and no, I don't consider the handful of WNs up by April Gaede in Kalispell to be a WN community).

WNs are not representative of Aryans, the race that put a man on the moon. WNs are the low-lifes of our race who cling to the accomplishments of our race because they have no accomplishments of their own they can point to. It's not easy to accomplish things, it takes hard work and skill and dedication. It is easy to believe that you are a superior being because you are related to other people who have accomplished things.
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I don't see anything Aryan or admirable in White Nationalism. ...
Is your analysis fare or accurate?

Lets call the Aryans you are referring to as Gamma-Aryans. Those Aryans who would be categorized as being below the Alpha- and Beta-Aryans.

By claiming their race is superior does not imply that the Gamma-Aryans are claiming they are Alpha-Arayns.

The Gamma-Aryan's do deserve respect if they are the majority of Aryans who are willing to speak out and take action.

How do we know that these Gamma-Aryans will not fall into place and honorably fulfill their duties as Gamma-Aryans when the Alpha-Aryan finally take on their leadership responsibilities?
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Tintin (I recognize your writing style), for me, it's not even about whether Aryans are a superior race. Even if we were dumber or weaker than other races, I would like us to live on. It's more an issue of figuring out who we are. If we have a sense of who we are as a people, like Spencer was talking about, we can handle anything thrown at us.

We've got competing notions for who we are. On the one hand is WN. But if WNs can't form communities in real life, I don't see how that provides a good template for our race as a whole. Even if most WNs are gamma anime-loving sperg MGTOWs what have you, they need to be able to bond in real life and form communities that include the opposite sex and raise families. They have yet to do this.

WNs say Jews and cultural marxism are brainwashing our people to race-mix. Well, the real problem is "our" people are not "ours", they do not identify with WN, to put it mildly. If "our" people truly identified as a people, like for example Jews identify as a people, we wouldn't have to worry about them being brainwashed. Jews survived as a people for thousands of years precisely because they had forged a strong sense of themselves as a people.

The challenge is finding something to bind "our" people together, to give them a sense of themselves as a people. WN isn't it.
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It's better for somebody to speak up, than for everyone to just shut up, fall into line and casually watch our race and nation fall into ruin. There are no legitimate political avenues in many countries, certainly not in the USA, for anyone to offer anything that's remotely pro-White.

If you're expecting a small subset of the population to defeat an entire system, and then say they're blaming and bickering for speaking out against injustice, then you're either extremely naive, or a troll.

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Every WN leader who puts himself out there is torn down or ridiculed by a segment of WNs, because that's the kind of person who is attracted to WN: low quality misfits who try to tear down others in order to feel good about themselves.
Name WNs leaders who you approve of, who you believe have been attacked unfairly?

More recently, I think Matt Heimbach has been attacked unfairly. But if we're talking about attacks on the internet, we don't know who these individuals are behind a computer screen.

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That's why there are no successful WN communities in real life, despite talk about PLEs and taking over small towns in North Dakota (and no, I don't consider the handful of WNs up by April Gaede in Kalispell to be a WN community).
Part of the reason there are no successful WN communities, because as soon as anyone attempts to establish one, the government and media will call us domestic terrorists, and send in alphabet soup agency goons to harass us constantly. If you sincerely believe we have the freedom to achieve this right now, you're a moron.

With regards to Craig Cobb, I've stated previously that he showed us exactly how to *not* do this. If someone wants to give this another shot, and has the leadership skills and resources to pull this off, more power to them. But even if they just mind their own business, and don't draw any unnecessary attention to themselves, the government and other organizations are going to make trouble.

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WNs are not representative of Aryans, the race that put a man on the moon. WNs are the low-lifes of our race who cling to the accomplishments of our race because they have no accomplishments of their own they can point to. It's not easy to accomplish things, it takes hard work and skill and dedication. It is easy to believe that you are a superior being because you are related to other people who have accomplished things.
I aspire to the same ideology who's people made the rockets who put a man on the moon. Some form of National Socialism will allow Aryans to reach their best potential. Enlightenment Liberalism, Republics, Democracies, we can do better than this. Even though National Socialism isn't currently marketable to the masses. People have been trying more nuanced approaches for years, and haven't had much success in the USA. That's because we don't control major media platforms. Our message doesn't get the same exposure to the masses. If you have a solution you'd like to offer to fix this problem - let's hear it.

Not everyone can contribute equally. Aryans are not a race where everyone are rocket scientists and engineers. What's important is that each individual contributes to the best of their ability. Rocket scientists and engineers couldn't function without the contributions of tradesmen. It's important for someone to figure out where they fall into place in a system. If you shoot beyond your ability, miserable failure is in your future. I do believe that certain individuals have knacks for doing certain things. Not everyone is fit to be a leader, or is fit for a highly skilled professional position.
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Is it possible to be racially Aryan, yet have a non-Aryan soul? I don't know, I tend to think of the two things as essentially interconnected; but one thing I do know is that we live in a Semitic age, an age where Semitic religions and world-views dominate. It's hard to step away from it all. And yet, if we Aryans are to survive into the future as a race, that's exactly what is required of us.

Linder recently wrote of the Charlottesville rally that "it is an example of the white race attempting to break free of jewish control and, in essence, create a new head for its racial body." I like the metaphor of race as body, as raw material, requiring a head to direct/shape it. The problem I see with WN as it stands is the focus is on the body (race), and the head (soul) is missing.

A body without a head, that's how I see the white race; and that's why we are so feckless and easily manipulated. But how do we "create a new head" for our racial body? Our heritage, our non-Semitic heritage, our Aryan heritage, must be our guide.
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I'd define a "soul" as being a genetic predisposition to certain types of behavior and actions. Trying to claim it's anything else reeks of semitic connotations.

With that being said, simply being predisposed to certain types of behavior doesn't mean we're guaranteed to pursue it. I think cultural influences, especially in modern times, can have an even more powerful influence than genetic predisposition. Like brainwashing.

Whites are generally successful as a group, but I don't feel like we've had too many situations in history where we were truly allowed to be our best as a group. Mostly due to foreign political and religious ideologies.

Whites generally pursue knowledge, self improvement, and improving their communities and surroundings. I'd define Whites as a group who really doesn't like rocking the boat politically, unless the situation gets really bad. So we're definitely not genetically predisposed to seeking the best possible political and societal solutions for ourselves as a group. The last 2000 years has been mostly repeating one bad system after the next. Meaning, we rarely saw our true potential. It mostly shined out in individuals, and not specific nations or ethnic groups.
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