What are Black Holes? Science or Science Fiction?

Hugo Böse · January 16th, 2020

What are Black Holes? Science or Science Fiction?

Sartt · February 5th, 2020

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Originally Posted by Hugo Böse

What are Black Holes? Science or Science Fiction?

Black holes re-purpose matters into cosmic dust/Gas , which then goes on to form entire solar systems.

bedford · February 5th, 2020

I do know of a friend who is a 28 year old woman who got her PhD
in astronomy at Georgia State recently. She said every galaxy has a black
hole even the Milky Way.

Dawn Cannon · February 6th, 2020

Great to see more and more are seeing through the bullshit that is black holes.

Hugo Böse · February 6th, 2020

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Ray Allan · February 6th, 2020

Just what does happen to a star when it exhausts its fuel and dies, collapses or goes supernova? Does it become a black hole? I'm not a scientist or physicist, so I don't know. Scientists and physicists don't really know yet, either.

Sartt · March 27th, 2020

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Originally Posted by Ray Allan

Just what does happen to a star when it exhausts its fuel and dies, collapses or goes supernova? Does it become a black hole? I'm not a scientist or physicist, so I don't know. Scientists and physicists don't really know yet, either.

Black Holes drawn in all matter, and turn it into gas and shoots it across the universe where it in turn creates more stars, planets.

RacialHolyWar · March 29th, 2020

Black holes I heard are the most pulling things in the universe. They draw in everything in their proximity, even icluding light-rays and transmission-signals (!)...

Nothing can escape their pulling. They are former suns whose matter is fall together.

They may be small in comparison to other heavenly occurances such as suns/planets but like I said, the most pulling things in this universe.

They devour everything in their proximity.

Donncha Dennis · March 31st, 2020

Would there be if any a way to counter black holes? perhaps a counter pulling affect? Maybe a black hole inside a black hole? or just throw suns and explosive nukes into it?

Ray Allan · March 31st, 2020

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Originally Posted by Donncha Dennis

Would there be if any a way to counter black holes? perhaps a counter pulling affect? Maybe a black hole inside a black hole? or just throw suns and explosive nukes into it?

The only way to escape a black hole's gravity well requires all warp power in reverse like the starship Enterprise did in 'Tomorrow Is Yesterday.' But like snapping a rubber band, the breakaway will send you plunging through space, out of control, to end up at 20th century Earth.

U.S.Airforce Vs UFO / U.S.S. Enterprise!

Sartt · April 2nd, 2020

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Originally Posted by Donncha Dennis

Would there be if any a way to counter black holes? perhaps a counter pulling affect? Maybe a black hole inside a black hole? or just throw suns and explosive nukes into it?

There are no nuclear weapons that could destroy a black hole, there are no nuclear weapons capable of destroying the moon. The black hole itself would tear apart the missile before it could even reach the outer layer of the black hole. You would need a Nuclear weapon the size of the sun itself to even have a effect on it.

jagd messer · December 19th, 2023

Scientists find black hole so big it 'should not exist' in Milky Way

An artist illustration of a primitive supermassive black hole at the centre of a galaxy

LB-1 is 15,000 light years from Earth and has a mass 70 times greater than the Sun, according to the journal Nature.

The Milky Way is estimated to contain 100 million stellar black holes but LB-1 is twice as massive as anything scientists thought possible, said Liu Jifeng, a National Astronomical Observatory of China professor who led the research. "Black holes of such mass should not even exist in our galaxy, according to most of the current models of stellar evolution," he added.

Scientists generally believe that there are two types of black holes.

The more common stellar black holes - up to 20 times more massive than the Sun - form when the centre of a very big star collapses in on itself.

Supermassive black holes are at least a million times bigger than the Sun and their origins are uncertain.

But researchers believed that typical stars in the Milky Way shed most of their gas through stellar winds, preventing the emergence of a black hole the size of LB-1, Mr Liu said. "Now theorists will have to take up the challenge of explaining its formation," he said in a statement.

Astronomers are still only beginning to grasp "the abundance of black holes and the mechanisms by which they form," David Reitze, a physicist at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) who was not involved in the discovery, said. The Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory at Caltech, overseen by Mr Reitze, had previously detected ripples in space-time that suggested the possibility of black holes in distant galaxies, that were much bigger than what was thought possible.

Stellar black holes are usually formed in the aftermath of supernova explosions, a phenomenon that occurs when extremely large stars burn out at the end of their lives. LB-1's large mass falls into a range "known as the 'pair instability gap' where supernovae should not have produced it", Mr Reitze said. "That means that this is a new kind a black hole, formed by another physical mechanism!"

LB-1 was discovered by an international team of scientists using China's sophisticated LAMOST telescope. Additional images from two of the world's largest optical telescopes - Spain's Gran Telescopio Canarias and the Keck I telescope in the US - confirmed the size of LB-1, which the National Astronomical Observatory of China said was "nothing short of fantastic".

Scientists have tended to find black holes by detecting the X-rays they emit. But this method has limited usefulness because only a small number of black hole systems where the companion star orbits very close to the black hole would emit detectable X-rays, Mr Liu said at a press conference.

Instead, the team that discovered LB-1 tracked the movements of "huge numbers of stars over a long period of time", before identifying LB-1 based on the motion of its companion star. This method has been used for decades without much success due to the limitations of the available equipment, Mr Liu added.

He said the method used to discover LB-1 could help scientists identify many more black holes in the future.

rte:
Scientists find black hole so big it 'should not exist' in Milky Way
19 XII 2023.

Ray Allan · December 19th, 2023

As for LB-1 being a 70 solar-mass black hole, it has been revised by different astronomers since 2020 as being a binary star system, that is, two stars orbiting each other with a common barycenter. LB-1 appears to consist of a rapidly rotating B-type star surrounded by a disk (a Be star) and a slowly-rotating B-type star stripped of its helium. The possibility of it being a black hole has not been totally discounted, however. Sagittarius A, the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy, around 28,000 light-years from Earth is something on the order of 4 million times the mass of our own Sun. Fortunately, it is a very long way away from us.

https://www.space.com/monster-black-...-debunked.html

February 5th, 2020	#3
bedford Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Atlanta,GA Posts: 3,377	I do know of a friend who is a 28 year old woman who got her PhD in astronomy at Georgia State recently. She said every galaxy has a black hole even the Milky Way. __________________ "To Undo a Jew is charity and not a sin." -Christopher Marlowe

February 6th, 2020	#4
Dawn Cannon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: The Vampire Ball Posts: 6,455	Great to see more and more are seeing through the bullshit that is black holes. __________________ The Bloodbath is Coming 7.6 billion savages multiplying and running wild over the earth, devouring everything in sight, trampling over every other lifeform without mercy or compassion.

February 6th, 2020	#6
Ray Allan Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 15,248	Just what does happen to a star when it exhausts its fuel and dies, collapses or goes supernova? Does it become a black hole? I'm not a scientist or physicist, so I don't know. Scientists and physicists don't really know yet, either. __________________ *"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."* --Henry A. Kissinger, jewish politician and advisor

December 19th, 2023	#12
jagd messer Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: UK Posts: 1,403	Scientists find black hole so big it 'should not exist' in Milky Way Scientists find black hole so big it 'should not exist' in Milky Way An artist illustration of a primitive supermassive black hole at the centre of a galaxy LB-1 is 15,000 light years from Earth and has a mass 70 times greater than the Sun, according to the journal Nature. The Milky Way is estimated to contain 100 million stellar black holes but LB-1 is twice as massive as anything scientists thought possible, said Liu Jifeng, a National Astronomical Observatory of China professor who led the research. "Black holes of such mass should not even exist in our galaxy, according to most of the current models of stellar evolution," he added. Scientists generally believe that there are two types of black holes. The more common stellar black holes - up to 20 times more massive than the Sun - form when the centre of a very big star collapses in on itself. Supermassive black holes are at least a million times bigger than the Sun and their origins are uncertain. But researchers believed that typical stars in the Milky Way shed most of their gas through stellar winds, preventing the emergence of a black hole the size of LB-1, Mr Liu said. "Now theorists will have to take up the challenge of explaining its formation," he said in a statement. Astronomers are still only beginning to grasp "the abundance of black holes and the mechanisms by which they form," David Reitze, a physicist at the California Institute of Technology (Caltech) who was not involved in the discovery, said. The Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory at Caltech, overseen by Mr Reitze, had previously detected ripples in space-time that suggested the possibility of black holes in distant galaxies, that were much bigger than what was thought possible. Stellar black holes are usually formed in the aftermath of supernova explosions, a phenomenon that occurs when extremely large stars burn out at the end of their lives. LB-1's large mass falls into a range "known as the 'pair instability gap' where supernovae should not have produced it", Mr Reitze said. "That means that this is a new kind a black hole, formed by another physical mechanism!" LB-1 was discovered by an international team of scientists using China's sophisticated LAMOST telescope. Additional images from two of the world's largest optical telescopes - Spain's Gran Telescopio Canarias and the Keck I telescope in the US - confirmed the size of LB-1, which the National Astronomical Observatory of China said was "nothing short of fantastic". Scientists have tended to find black holes by detecting the X-rays they emit. But this method has limited usefulness because only a small number of black hole systems where the companion star orbits very close to the black hole would emit detectable X-rays, Mr Liu said at a press conference. Instead, the team that discovered LB-1 tracked the movements of "huge numbers of stars over a long period of time", before identifying LB-1 based on the motion of its companion star. This method has been used for decades without much success due to the limitations of the available equipment, Mr Liu added. He said the method used to discover LB-1 could help scientists identify many more black holes in the future. rte: Scientists find black hole so big it 'should not exist' in Milky Way 19 XII 2023.

December 19th, 2023	#13
Ray Allan Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 15,248	As for LB-1 being a 70 solar-mass black hole, it has been revised by different astronomers since 2020 as being a binary star system, that is, two stars orbiting each other with a common barycenter. LB-1 appears to consist of a rapidly rotating B-type star surrounded by a disk (a Be star) and a slowly-rotating B-type star stripped of its helium. The possibility of it being a black hole has not been totally discounted, however. Sagittarius A, the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy, around 28,000 light-years from Earth is something on the order of 4 million times the mass of our own Sun. Fortunately, it is a very long way away from us. https://www.space.com/monster-black-...-debunked.html __________________ *"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."* --Henry A. Kissinger, jewish politician and advisor

March 29th, 2020	#8
RacialHolyWar Banned Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 18	Black holes I heard are the most pulling things in the universe. They draw in everything in their proximity, even icluding light-rays and transmission-signals (!)... Nothing can escape their pulling. They are former suns whose matter is fall together. They may be small in comparison to other heavenly occurances such as suns/planets but like I said, the most pulling things in this universe. They devour everything in their proximity.

March 31st, 2020	#9
Donncha Dennis Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 363	Would there be if any a way to counter black holes? perhaps a counter pulling affect? Maybe a black hole inside a black hole? or just throw suns and explosive nukes into it?

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