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Old July 7th, 2018 #61
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To me, RACE (more specifically, the 14 words) is the ALL IMPORTANT ISSUE.

Religion is a PERSONAL matter, and should remain so, I don`t like those who try to push bible thumping, it often gets in the way, and creates unnecessary division in our ranks.
 
Old July 7th, 2018 #62
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Fair enough - although VNN probably isn't the place to advertise such organizations (except for the entertainment value from the ensuing onslaught of witty criticisms lol).Well said.

It'd be nice to know what you and Longbaugh specifically endorse as an alternative to Jewianity. I've placed all the major alternative organizations in my signature, but I really only consider the first three viable as Creativity and Cosmotheism ruined themselves from the get-go by endorsing terrorism (indirectly), using racial epithets often, etc. It's as though they were designed with the help of Jewish NSA/FBI agents to ensure they'd go nowhere.
There is also the bigger question of "Why do we need to believe in wacky shit?". Gawds, afterlife, all that nonsense. We can have a religion that's simply a way of life that has nothing to do with belief in the imaginary. It could be as simple as "My Race and my Nation is my religion." We don't need books that go into wacky spiritual nonsense to back it up.

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Organizations like Orania in South Africa are Christinsanitian, and that religion is probably playing a large role in holding back the Blacks from exterminating them - it's a mask to hide behind at times lol. Nevertheless, the goal should be to take back and gut our churches of Jewianity, and by that point, we'll also be in a position to take back our countries since our people won't be following a Jewish pile of shit any longer.
My take on Orania is that healthy survival instincts are overcoming jewish teachings. But this can only happen after things get really, really bad. South Africa bad. But keep in mind, it was christianity that helped lead South Africa into the position it's currently in.
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There is also the bigger question of "Why do we need to believe in wacky shit?". Gawds, afterlife, all that nonsense. We can have a religion that's simply a way of life that has nothing to do with belief in the imaginary. It could be as simple as "My Race and my Nation is my religion." We don't need books that go into wacky spiritual nonsense to back it up.
Without something, we're doomed IMO. Unless a man has a wife and at least two (in our case, several kids) and several hundred thousand to millions of dollars in his account, then he is, no matter how you spin it, a failure on the practical levels, and a testament to why we need a sane, legal, proper White religion. Through the religion, our own will ensure he or she is gainfully employed.

I don't care about excuses. NPI, Stormfront, National Alliance, Creativity, British National Party, Counter Currents, Etc. ... even Jewish AmRen, continue to provide nothing significant.

The Asatru Folk Assembly is the best effort to date IMO (even though I still find it inadequate ... I dislike how the absolute foundation of the organization is "whacky crap" - nonetheless, 99% of the congregation view the stories as allegory, and at least it's European as opposed to Jewish folklore). The sermons should be about real history, science, philosophy, art, in addition to mythology. We should add comedy, song, dance to not make it dull. Few would attend anyways, but we could make YouTube videos to inspire the people who sit at home. I know the Jews working in the NSA and FBI salivate daily at sending in their jackoffs to encourage the members to commit violence against Jews and other minorities, steal, terrorize, decorate the Hof with "14/88" and swastikas, etc., so they can destroy that organization. Because what those state-paid, dual-citizenship Jews crave most of all is that Whites either continue to remain without an organization, or remain fixed to Christ-Insanity/Jewianity.

People should get a membership and participate.
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Asatru is for believers in gods, IMO we've gone beyond believing the invisible monkey stuff.

If we're gonna start making Fundamental Attribution Errors as a race again (my opinion that all religion is this--ALL), we might as well put all our 'faith' in something that has PROVEN itself to have wonder-working power.

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I'm a feeling a bit testy today (and hungover), so I apologize for being polemic, but I'm going to make one last post in this direction lol.

Most of those in the Asatru Folk Assembly views the stories as allegory/mythology ... and let us not forget that the most successful group in the world also follows ridiculous stories/mythology:
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Who Rules America

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Steve Sailor:
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"During the last three decades, Jews have made up 50% of the top two hundred intellectuals, 40% of American Nobel Prize Winners in science and economics, 20% of professors at the leading universities, 21% of high level civil servants, 40% of partners in the leading law firms in New York and Washington, 26% of the reporters, editors, and executives of the major print and broadcast media, 59% of the directors, writers, and producers of the fifty top-grossing motion pictures from 1965 to 1982, and 58% of directors, writers, and producers in two or more primetime television series."
Source: IQ And Disease: The Curious Case of the Ashkenazi Jews | VDARE - premier news outlet for patriotic immigration reform

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"Jewish entrepreneurs and philanthropists may have indeed contributed to economic growth, but they have also lavishly funded Jewish causes -- causes that typically oppose the ethnic interests of European Americans. Jews constitute more than a quarter of the people on the Forbes Magazine list of the richest four hundred Americans, 45% of the top 40 richest Americans, and one-third of all American multimillionaires. (15) The beneficiaries of this wealth include 4000 foundations controlled by Jews and 300 national Jewish organizations,..."
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"Although Jews make up less than 3%of the population, they constitute more than a quarter of the people on the Forbes list of the richest four hundred Americans. In general, wealthy Jews have a strong record of donating to Jewish causes. 13"
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Source: The Jewish Stake in America's Changing Demography: Reconsidering a Misguided Immigration Policy | Center for Immigration Studies
What's key is that we stop our people from following a stupid sissy derivation of the Jews' insane folklore that divides and conquers us into some 45000+ denominations. We also have to encourage our people to stop following atheist nothingness or secular Christianity (where they're not participating in anything).

I'm a member of the AFA but I don't know any of the stories nor care to. I can name the Gods that the days of the week and months are named after, and a bit about what they represented. Beyond that, I don't care. I just want to be around people who aren't liberal airheads, who are organized, who are aware of our ethnic struggle, and things like how 9/11 was an inside job , and how Jewianity is a plague that caused all our problems lol, etc.

BTW, Happy Day of our Lord Saturn (Saturday) Emily . I know that our amazing God Saturn will have our backs today in the fields, as we sweat and toil to maintain and harvest our respective crops (He was a God of Agriculture) ... oh wait, that was 1000+ years ago, ... actually, I'll just head to the grocery store now lol.
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Old July 7th, 2018 #68
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Asatru is for believers in gods, IMO we've gone beyond believing the invisible monkey stuff.

If we're gonna start making Fundamental Attribution Errors as a race again (my opinion that all religion is this--ALL), we might as well put all our 'faith' in something that has PROVEN itself to have wonder-working power.

Benny Hinn's jacket.
Now, now, Ms. Henderson. Benny Hinn has gotten MUCH better:


Benny Hinn's new look, and the music played at the "offering." PAY YOUR TITHE TO ME OR YOU WILL MEET YOUR DESTINY!!!


The images below are meant for ol' bennie the hen, NOT directed at the fine White Nationalist Woman Emily Henderson. You just made me laugh, Emily, and I needed it.

bennie the hen, the below describes YOU!!!!!:

When I even see your image, it makes me
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Most of those in the Asatru Folk Assembly views the stupid stories as allegory/mythology ... and let us not forget that the most successful group in the world follows stupid stories/mythology:
The very word 'Asatru' means "belief in the gods" in Ancient Scandinavian.

IDK what some of them claim, this is no different than when Unitarian Universalists claim that Atheists are 'welcome' to join....yet there is a 'path' to membership where you say you believe in a 'higher power' or 'god', not something an Atheist believes in.

It's just some more silly doulbe-speak, doesn't matter if Whites were the originators.

That was us in our primitive state. A more bicameral way of thinking, more flawed.

Unless you want to do all that ritualizing and claim allegiance to things you just called 'stupid stories'. As for me, I don't. I don't think we need anymore fantasy-land dwellers of any kind.

As for success, that's not the measure of the worth of anything. Crips and Bloods make lots of $ off drugz and hos. They're still garbage.

We Atheists are far from believing in nothingness. IDC who agrees, it's as interesting to me to hear about 'gods' as to hear about Oprah's new list of 'favorite things'. So much more real and awesome stuff to take an interest in.

IMHO.

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Old July 7th, 2018 #70
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The problem is that beyond belief, on average I have more in common with a Christian than an atheist. Many atheists are fag/nigger loving liberals. Until there is a better system, Christianity did work to the whites benefit in years past as a unifier for conquest and defense. Now I don't know what could replace the power it once had. Good luck starting a new whites only religion today.
 
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The problem is that beyond belief, on average I have more in common with a Christian than an atheist. Many atheists are fag/nigger loving liberals. Until there is a better system, Christianity did work to the whites benefit in years past as a unifier for conquest and defense. Now I don't know what could replace the power it once had. Good luck starting a new whites only religion today.
Sometimes that is indeed true re Xtians, on certain issues especially--however: take a gander at some the Christ insaners and how quickly they (many of them, not all) want you to die, no matter how White you are, if you won't bow to their beliefs, their god, and lie to them that it's real.


Their belief system does not allow them to have brethren who are not washed in the blood, because not being saved means you are 'no good'.

Otherwise: it means you can be good without god.

And that defies the whole belief system. Can't habs dat!

An Atheist can run the spectrum of good to bad, lib to conservative, because it's merely the absence of faith in a creator. The libs have taken over the academic world and with that, all things atheistic and secular. They also dominate the separation of church and state protection enthusiasts/activists--with the exception of a few Baptists and other Xtians who actually realize that separation of Church and State protects the CHURCH from the State, as well as the State (public).

So I don't worry about that, only 'is it true' or not.

If not, then not.

Same with racialism, there are racial loyalists who I would not want to spend time with or get to know, just because we both know niggers stink.

That's a small thing to have in common, lol.
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Now, now, Ms. Henderson. Benny Hinn has gotten MUCH better:

Benny Hinn - Star Wars - Dark Lord of the Sith (Better SFX)
It always makes me take pause and shudder when I see how many Whites are in an audience for the magic show.

Sweaty knee grows believing in voodoo makes sense. The former does not.
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Asatru is for believers in gods, IMO we've gone beyond believing the invisible monkey stuff.

If we're gonna start making Fundamental Attribution Errors as a race again (my opinion that all religion is this--ALL), we might as well put all our 'faith' in something that has PROVEN itself to have wonder-working power.

Benny Hinn's jacket.
Benny Hinn; I enjoyed watching his BLATANT FAKERY until I realized that there were many White imbeciles who ACTUALLY BELIEVED this piece of shit!
 
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The problem is that beyond belief, on average I have more in common with a Christian than an atheist. Many atheists are fag/nigger loving liberals. Until there is a better system, Christianity did work to the whites benefit in years past as a unifier for conquest and defense. Now I don't know what could replace the power it once had. Good luck starting a new whites only religion today.
As an agnostic (who categorically denies the christian/jewish god), I subscribe to Nature's Law in the most rudimentary sense. Meaning that there are no "god given rights". And nobody has a right to anything, including existence. We're no different with regards to survival than any other creature on this planet. The same basic laws that govern their existence, govern ours as well. And it's up to us exclusively to solve our own problems. Contrary to jewish identity cucks, I don't believe jeboo is gonna show up with an army of angels to smite the kikes, and bring order.

I identify more with Pagans and Heathens than christians. They also deny the christian/jewish god, and don't believe in "god given rights", or other free-masonic enlightenment liberal garbage.

christian morals encourage suicide before sin.
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We Atheists are far from believing in nothingness. IDC who agrees, it's as interesting to me to hear about 'gods' as to hear about Oprah's new list of 'favorite things'. So much more real and awesome stuff to take an interest in.

IMHO.

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Yes well your topics of interest could be sermons in the Hof, the same way Reformed Judaism has sermons on anything. I too don't really care to hear about Odin riding around on his 8 legged horse, nor Thor shooting thunder bolts from his ass on his flying goat chariot lol ... I'd prefer to hear sermons on String Theory, Quantum Mechanics, Evolution, etc., but Asatru is a bunch of safe European mythology/BS to congregate around, ... a facade, a mask to protect ourselves from the enemy who otherwise would be saying "your congregating around nothing but racism" - and being denied legal status as a religion.

There isn't a single Creativity nor Cosmotheist (nor anything else) chapter that's ever produced a result like this:



Very few Jews (reformed ones) believe that a Heeb named Moses parted seas, but that's their Sand Negro mythology to congregate around to mask the activity of doing family and business networking at their synagogues/Israeli Nationalist Centres.

Our Hofs will be precursors to eventually taking over things like the Churches of England and Scotland, supplementing Jew-Heeb-Christianity with Asatru, science, philosophy, and nationalism, ... and then liberating our countries.

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Unless a man has a wife and at least two (in our case, several kids) and several hundred thousand to millions of dollars in his account, then he is, no matter how you spin it, a failure on the practical levels
Only the top 10% are loaded like that.

A smarter, more realistic solution would be to have some community programs, such as get some volunteers willing to watch the kids of families where the mother and father are both required to have full time jobs to support their families. Because that's the reality for most people. Unless your "religion" can guarantee every member a 6 figure salary for doing petty shit.

One of the biggest disasters I see in the jobs market, is that there are no traditional apprenticeships for youth to get into trade skills anymore. If someone wants to do something helpful for their community, in a non-wacky way, why not setup an organization that helps put youth into apprenticeship programs with master tradesmen?
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Sometimes that is indeed true re Xtians, on certain issues especially--however: take a gander at some the Christ insaners and how quickly they (many of them, not all) want you to die, no matter how White you are, if you won't bow to their beliefs, their god, and lie to them that it's real.


Their belief system does not allow them to have brethren who are not washed in the blood, because not being saved means you are 'no good'.

Otherwise: it means you can be good without god.

And that defies the whole belief system. Can't habs dat!

An Atheist can run the spectrum of good to bad, lib to conservative, because it's merely the absence of faith in a creator. The libs have taken over the academic world and with that, all things atheistic and secular. They also dominate the separation of church and state protection enthusiasts/activists--with the exception of a few Baptists and other Xtians who actually realize that separation of Church and State protects the CHURCH from the State, as well as the State (public).

So I don't worry about that, only 'is it true' or not.

If not, then not.

Same with racialism, there are racial loyalists who I would not want to spend time with or get to know, just because we both know niggers stink.

That's a small thing to have in common, lol.
Ha ha, I guess I have taken for granted that I have had to pretend I'm a Christian for years to not get fucked over by them. You don't want to get on there black list. Even so, I still prefer their company over liberal fag nigger lovers. There are a few atheists I have found that are also racialists that I can chat with in person from time to time.
 
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Ha ha, I guess I have taken for granted that I have had to pretend I'm a Christian for years to not get fucked over by them. You don't want to get on there black list.
I did that for years as well. Just not recently. There is a former friend who I no longer speak to anymore, because they couldn't shut up about the jebus nonsense, and proselytizing, and left me with no choice but to offend him.

As far as being black listed, once they figure out you're not part of their jebus clique, you are treated differently. With less respect, even if you don't do anything specific to offend them.

If you're a christian, I don't care, just don't bother me with it. I'll give someone a casual nuanced hint once or twice, but my patience has its limits.

Christian collectively don't respect the beliefs of others, or lack of, so why should I respect theirs?
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Only the top 10% are loaded like that.

A smarter, more realistic solution would be to have some community programs, such as get some volunteers willing to watch the kids of families where the mother and father are both required to have full time jobs to support their families. Because that's the reality for most people. Unless your "religion" can guarantee every member a 6 figure salary for doing petty shit.

One of the biggest disasters I see in the jobs market, is that there are no traditional apprenticeships for youth to get into trade skills anymore. If someone wants to do something helpful for their community, in a non-wacky way, why not setup an organization that helps put youth into apprenticeship programs with master tradesmen?
In bold: this is exactly what is needed, because community does not have to be defined by religion if it is defined by race.

And we can pool resources, grow wealth, and lift each other up when the Xtians you and Goldbergerstein are talking about blacklist, and when the left blacklists, and so on.

It doesn't matter what those who want your acquiescence think when they have no power over your life.

As for religion, I failed to mention the two things of value with those old Euro myths.

Folktales do have interesting concepts woven throughout, from a time when people were grasping for understanding.

So in that way they have historical and moral value.

But lying to get along in an Asatru thing will ultimately end up like lying to get along in a Jewsus thing.

It makes someone, once again, give others power over them who are bowing to something false.

Unless one really believes in it, in which case gathering in its name is honest. It would never be so for me, with re to that kind of belief, again, after having been a sincere Xtian as a child. Once something smacks of falseness for any number of reasons, I don't want to partake.
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I don't have a problem with folklore and mythology, because that's cultural. As long as it's Aryan in origin and not jewish. I think most people understand where to draw the line. There is nothing wrong with paying homage to your ancestors' culture, even if it's mythology, but if you take it literally, then you got a few screws loose. For example, someone who larps as a "druid" once or twice a year for some festival isn't taking it too seriously, and I don't see anything wrong with that.
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