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Good party names under jew dictatorship/media control are
White Party or Racist Party Either neutral, or indicating willingness to fight. Anyone who makes jew crit a prominent feature of his appeal will be called a neo-nazi, whether he supports NS policies or not. In jew-controlled spheres, everything is defined in relation to the jew. |
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The White Party is the name of a number of circuit parties held annually, catering to the LGBT communities. Its name comes from the requirement that party-goers dress in all or almost all white. White Parties have taken place in New York City, Miami and Fort Lauderdale, Florida; Palm Springs, California; and Montreal, Quebec, Canada, although the events are independent of each other. AIDS fund raiser
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I'd say about 50% of the people I deal with equate directness with rudeness and get their backs up if you don't try to sweet talk them. I refuse to change the way I interact with people, though. If they don't like my honesty -- tough. Quote:
Most of the criticisms I've seen here of conservatism are more of the hypocrisy and corruption in conservative ranks than of conservative ideals per se.
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So who should we be trying to appeal to? Democrats, Marxist-Leninists, and Green Party supporters?
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White Party is better. I'd prefer to define myself positively by affirming what I am rather than negatively in relation to what I don't like.
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You want to go to war; well, under what banner? That's the question I'm asking. I don't see a huge difference between what WN profess to believe and what conservatives do, other than that conservatives talk the talk but don't walk the walk. So how do we distinguish ourselves from them in the public's mind? It's a practical, not a theoretical, question. This has nothing to do with being on the defensive; I know perfectly well how to win a fight. You bring up the NS a lot; well, NS can legitimately claim that they are not conservatives. They may be social conservatives, but in every other respect, they are true revolutionaries. Their rhetoric is often hard to distinguish from that of communists. It seems like you want to embrace revolutionary rhetoric but ideologically, you're more of a reactionary. Again, these questions aren't merely theoretical. I started asking myself these questions as a result of wondering exactly how, in concrete terms, I should behave in real-life situations. You give a lot of theory but not much in the way of application. When the conservatives in Arizona pass anti-immigration bills, and threaten to shut off power to the shitskins of L.A., should we support them or attack them? If we truly aren't conservatives, then we should attack them, just like the leftists do, no? But that doesn't make any sense, since we're ultimately after the same thing. A true revolutionary would be doing everything in his power to sink the system, to make things as bad for white people as possible, even if that meant taking counterintuitive positions like attacking immigration reformers in Arizona. I'm not sure that even you fit into the category of a true revolutionary. Saying that we need to use force to keep the system working as it should isn't a revolutionary position, but that of a reformer. Revolutionaries want to destroy the system, not rescue it. Quote:
My point is: how on earth do you expect Joe Sixpack to distinguish us from conservatives (which is, as you yourself have often stated, the objective of attacking conservatives) when we ourselves have trouble doing it? What do we stand for? How are we different from the conservatives? If we're not conservatives, what are we? Every movement needs a name, it needs to articulate its goals and beliefs, it needs to make itself stand out from its rivals, and that's not just me talking; it's Hitler, and Lenin, and Mussolini, and anyone else who has ever been at the helm of a successful political movement. You think Hitler would've replied "I refuse to label myself" if he was asked how he differed from conservatives? You seem to be trying to have your cake and eat it too. You want to "distinguish" us from conservatives but without having to use labels; you want people to stand by their principles but you don't want to articulate what those principles are. Quote:
Sinking conservatism makes perfect sense if you're NS, but not when you're a conservative. And those are only likely to work under certain societal conditions that don't currently exist. Hitler didn't just get to where he did by being smart; he got there because Germany was an absolute wreck after 1918 and people were receptive to his message in a way they wouldn't have been before. Similar societal conditions are on their way, but what do we do in the meantime? Maybe attacking conservatism (as distinguished from attacking/criticizing conservatives) is the wrong approach. Maybe we should be doing our best to radicalize conservatism. Maybe we should be presenting ourselves as "ungelded conservatives," as the only real conservatives, as the only ones that really mean it, rather than as revolutionaries. Quote:
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But for these reasons I don't think it applies to us: 1) We are not NS and unlike the NS, we have nothing substantially different to offer the masses from conservatism. We ARE conservatives, just not corrupt ones. 2) We haven't been through the cataclysms that Germany had gone through. There's nothing wrong with looking to the historical NS for inspiration and strategy, but let's not go deluding ourselves into thinking we're them or that our situations are identical.
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On the subject of using force: Of course it's wise to prepare for the worst and hope for the best, but what I've consistently found is that it takes far less to put a crimp in enemy plans than I assume it will beforehand. Oftentimes all you have to do is show some resistance, and they will back off. Jews and leftists are so used to always having their way that they are completely unprepared when someone tells them to fuck off and refuses to back down.
The problem right now is that no one that matters has the balls to take a stand, no matter how faint. Rand Paul says something that most of his supporters agree with, and then the jews snap their fingers and he takes it all back with sugar on top. The problem isn't that whites refuse to use violence; the problem is that they refuse to take any kind of a firm, principled stance at all. Violence will inevitably come once whites start taking a firm stance; we don't have to go running after it. When both sides refuse to compromise, conflict will ensue as surely as night follows day. Jews, by their own behavior, will insure that people will want to kill them; I don't think there's any need to keep repeating that we should exterminate them, making ourselves look like the bad guys in the process. Our job is simply to make the jews come out of their hiding place, to force their hand, to expose them for what they are. Once you pull the curtain back and people see the jews for what they are, their natural instinct will be homicidal. This is why jews can't tolerate any criticism of their activities; they know that if they allow even the slightest criticism, it will create a chain reaction which will lead to their expulsion or extermination. The jews know that they've been very, very bad and that if their crimes are ever widely discovered, they will receive the death sentence. Regarding democratic politics, I don't think it really matters whether WN can win at the ballot box or not. What matters is that WN participation in democratic politics forces the jews' hand, exposing the system for the sham that it is. Anything that leads to frustration and disillusionment with the system is good.
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Veni Vidi Dixi says:
May 25, 2010 at 11:39 pm I give up. You people actually would rather discuss whether or not Columbus was a Jew than Mossad, a foreign intelligence service, staging 911 and getting us to carry out their 1992 “Defense of the Realm” plan by invading Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan (renamed in the US to Project for a New American Century, including calls for a “new Pearl Harbor”) Hunter Wallace says: May 26, 2010 at 1:45 am Jupiter, I’ve looked into this. You’re not banned from Amren. I know the moderator. Improve your spelling and grammar. Don’t use ALL CAPS. Don’t beat the same drum. Mix up your message. |
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BTW TOQ Online is now basically dead under the control of him who shall not be named. Under Johnson they posted maybe a dozen articles a week, now it's one every week or two, and mostly cross-posts at that. One thing we can say for fags is they can be hard workers. It's not like they need to invest much time in their relationships.
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Everyone here should familiarize themselves with basic semantics by reading SI Hayakawa's Language in Thought and Action. The author, an American-Japanese politician and academic in the '60s, was predictably 'anti-racist' and I think this was part of the motivation for writing the book, but the tools and ideas inside are just as effective at defending WN as they were for demolishing the strawman racialism described in this and other works. Like most of the best books it is short (but dense). |
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2012 debate over revisionism and Old Right vs New Right
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Re: Johnson and Anne Frank
I'm a new forum member who has been holding back for a few days on how I feel about this Greg Johnson person. I can't find the thread where we discovered his teary affection for Anne Frank but that was simply disgusting. I'm shocked that a so-called WN theorist (I won't call him a leader) would lower himself to accepting a Jewish created icon. Any WN worth his salt should have the insight to know that the western world only knows of Anne Frank because we are meant to know her by the Jews who seek to control our minds and brainwash our children to love Jews and hate the White race. Why don't we know the name of a 15 year old Aryan German girl who was killed in the Allied bombings of Dresden in 1945? Because the purpose of being given a name is itself a form of mental control. We are denied an individual name from the Dresden bombing because that wouldn't serve the greater Jewish agenda. How skilled is a WN theorist if he isn't capable of dismantling the Anne Frank cult? He states quite clearly that WN have an obligation to answer for the loss of Anne Frank's life. Johnson's apparent strategy is that WN must embrace establishment Jewish propaganda thereby putting us into retreat mode when we should be on the attack.
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Changes Afoot at Counter-Currents
Since mid-March, major changes have been afoot at Counter-Currents and in my life more broadly. I have been trying to keep these hidden to outside eyes, but our more perceptive readers have noticed certain signs, e.g., a slight decrease in the number of articles at Counter-Currents, a specific decrease in my own articles, a worsening of my already spotty correspondence skills, slower comment moderation, some site outages and glitches, and the like.
http://www.counter-currents.com/2014...-2/#more-47008
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