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Old June 16th, 2012 #241
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Greece is a small scale rehearsal for The Latter Days here, when the blood will run ankle deep in the streets.
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Already back in a drachma world
By Jason Manolopoulos, Times of London
Last Updated: 4:35 AM, June 15, 2012
Posted: 3:26 AM, June 15, 2012

Troubling signs of disorder in Greek society have now erupted into public view. Last week’s shameful scene of the far-right Golden Dawn politician Ilias Kasidiaris assaulting two women MPs during a television debate flashed across the globe. It was the most public manifestation of a worrying trend. There have been several lethal incidents in the past week, including a burglar who was shot dead by a 23-year-old man whose house he had broken into. As austerity measures bite, basic public services are breaking down.

Pharmacists will no longer accept insurance credits, only cash; they complain that the Health Ministry owes them money dating back to last year. Hospitals owe suppliers nearly $2 billion and are having to scavenge for essential supplies. The government says that if the recession continues, a fifth of public hospitals could close.

We came close to a blackout as the national electricity company needed an emergency injection of $479 million. And the country could reach the crunch point when pensioners cannot get their benefits as early as next month.
They are some of the tangible consequences of an economy where nearly 22 percent of adults are unemployed — twice the eurozone average — and 53 percent of young people.

Meanwhile, the slow bank run continues. Withdrawals were between $6 billion and $7 billion in May, near the record $8.6 billion of October 2011. With more than 68,000 businesses closing last year, the complete lack of finance available and a parallel IOU system operating, Greece is, to all intents and purposes, already living in a post-euro drachma world.

While the country disintegrates, the crisis at the heart of the eurozone is no closer to being solved. So where does this policy vacuum leave Greece, where the rerun general election takes place on Sunday? Voters, having vented their anger in last month’s inconclusive race, will focus on returning a government this time.

If New Democracy wins, it might form a coalition of the relatively willing, taking in all those parties whose approach to the hated memorandum that accompanies the bailout funds is “change it, amend it, cancel it, renegotiate it, extend it.” But most voters are immune to this old-style scaremongering.
The million-plus jobless Greeks are already living the “catastrophe.” This is why Syriza, the left-wing coalition led by Alexis Tsipras, is leading in the polls. Austerity fatigue trumps catastrophe.

Mr. Tsipras believes he can defy Germany and resist austerity, yet stay in the single currency. Enough voters are still seduced by such populism. But Mr. Tsipras is gambling on two things: That the victory of Francois Hollande in the French election will change the EU’s strategy, and that Germany’s Angela Merkel is bluffing and will not risk kicking Greece out of the eurozone. In this, he could be right. Germany is very exposed to the fragility of the banking system across southern Europe. In April, the Bundesbank was owed $812 billion by the European Central Bank — an amount equal to about 25 percent of German GDP.

Brinkmanship will surely follow the elections, whatever the result. But the priority of Greece’s politicians should not be to stay in the euro; the priority ought to be to revive what is left of the productive economy. This is the route to true convergence within the EU — a convergence in performance, not artificial yoking together through a currency. Unfortunately, parties on both the left and right are silent on how Greece can create wealth or modernize its economy. In any case, the chances of forming a lasting, stable government are slim.

Irrespective of who wins on Sunday, a negotiated euro exit in the second half of this year is now a distinct possibility and may even be the least bad option. Whatever happens, prepare for a calamitous ride.

Jason Manolopoulos is author of “Greece’s ‘Odious’ Debt” and co-founder of the Athens-based hedge fund Dromeus Capital.
 
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Greece is a small scale rehearsal for The Latter Days here, when the blood will run ankle deep in the streets.
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Mr. Tsipras believes he can defy Germany and resist austerity, yet stay in the single currency. Enough voters are still seduced by such populism. But Mr. Tsipras is gambling on two things: That the victory of Francois Hollande in the French election will change the EU’s strategy, and that Germany’s Angela Merkel is bluffing and will not risk kicking Greece out of the eurozone.
Syriza has a manifesto George Soros, Hilary Clinton and Gene Sharp would be proud of...(oh wait, that's odd!)

Just a tiny snipet of the horrors contained therein:

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Immigration reforms:

Speeding up the asylum process
Abolition of Dublin II regulations and granting of travel papers to immigrants
Social inclusion of immigrants and equal rights protection
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3. Income redistribution, taxation of wealth, and elimination of unnecessary expenses:

Pursuit of new financial resources through efficient absorption of European funds, through claims on the payment of German World War II reparations and occupation loan.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=31179
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Old June 16th, 2012 #243
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When a journalist mentions the word “neo-Nazi” a thuggish-looking man with a shaved head behind him bristles threateningly and shouts: “We are not Nazis! Who is the idiot who said that? We’re nationalists!”
Keep it up, judenpresse scum. We'll see you all do the Strangulation Jig yet.
 
Old June 16th, 2012 #244
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Athens - The leader of New Democracy, Anthonis Samaras, has promised to stop the "invasion of illegal immigrants" and called for a common European asylum and deportation policy.

The Greek economy can barely sustain its own population, yet bears the additional burden of over one million illegal immigrants. Anthonis Samaras has put the issue at the center of his election campaign, calling for a European policy to tackle the issue and for new migrant detention centers to be opened in the border regions.

As Digital Journal reported the Greek state barely has enough money to feed prison inmates, and hospitals are running short of vital drugs, yet Samaras proposes more detention centers when the existing ones scarcely have the necessary cash to function. Athens News reported Samaras said "Greece has experienced an invasion of illegal immigrants, we shall stop it. We are calling for the support of society to become a country of security and democracy."
Ironically the invasion he spoke of occurred under the watch of New Democracy and PASOK, with neither party giving much emphasis to the the issue. Only with the election of far-right Golden Dawn to Parliament, which campaigned on an anti-immigration platform, did the concerns of citizens over the issue make any impact on the mainstream parties. Bereft of a substantial policy to deal with the matter, voters who have experienced the ghettoization of their neighbourhoods or experienced crime at the hands of illegals, have turned to Golden Dawn as a symbol of protection.

With the Greek health service in crisis Golden Dawn MP Ilias Panagiotaros played to nationalist sentiments as he addressed a rally in Athens. The Guardian reported he said "If Chrysi Avgi gets into parliament it will carry out raids on hospitals and kindergartens and it will throw immigrants and their children out on the street so that Greeks can take their place."

Greek migrant organizations have complained that attacks on migrants have intensified since the election of Golden Dawn in the May 6 elections. Speaking to Ekathimerini, Reza Gholami, the head of an association of Afghans, said "Things have got worse since the elections. There are daily beatings. These guys don’t just want to frighten people, they are hitting to kill. They are hitting on the head, a lot of people are attacking at the same time. Most incidents are not known because immigrants do not notify authorities. They are afraid for their lives or don’t have legal papers or lack the funds to pay the cost of a lawsuit.”

Yet, for all the reports of alleged Golden Dawn attacks on migrants there are equally many accounts of Golden Dawn offering protection to frightened citizens. There are also allegations that certain attacks on migrants may have been staged to implicate Golden Dawn and turn voters against them

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Old June 17th, 2012 #245
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Let us not forget that it was the jews of Wall Street that started all this by stealing 12 Trillion, and the politico-hacks are now expecting the working and middle classes to pay for it, now that's Chutzpah!

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With unemployment at 22 percent and per capita income shrinking rapidly, the economic collapse has also exacerbated longstanding divisions between right and left that were papered over during four decades of alternating rule by the Socialists and center-right New Democracy, both seen as patronage networks as much as ideologies.

The May 6 elections saw the election to parliament of the anti-immigrant neo-Nazi party Golden Dawn party, which routinely scuffles violently with immigrants and is popular among Greeks who feel that an influx of illegal immigrants has made downtown Athens crime-ridden and dangerous.

In response, Mr. Samaras has tacked hard to the right. “Let us remove migrants from squares. The mass invasion of immigrants will stop and the mass return to their homelands will begin,” he said at his final campaign rally on Friday night, as party stalwarts waved Greek flags and the theme song to “Pirates of the Caribbean” blared on the loudspeakers.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/18/wo...pagewanted=all
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Old June 17th, 2012 #246
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I can't find any news as of 08:00 MST on 17 June, 2012. Here is a propaganda piece from the Golden Dawn website in machine translation. Note that these reasons for voting are not like our Republican and Democrat puff pieces which say nothing. These reasons are real and down to earth.

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http://www.xryshaygh.com/index.php/ekloges

Why I vote Golden Dawn

Golden Dawn will vote to enter parliament in STORIES that will make up - under the corrupt political system

Why say no foreign occupation of the Troika of international usurers and the Zionist capital

To reduce the excessive profits of banks and "pimps" and breathe a sigh FINALLY A PEOPLE

To begin immediate oil extraction - Natural Gas has proven to Greece

To xanaspeiroume our land, to operate the craft, we return to our NATIONAL PRODUCTION

To leave NOW ALL LATHROMETANASTES and stop our borders be "strainer"

In order to curb drastically the crime and punished exemplarily all politicians thieves

AND WHY AM I want to live AS GREEK
WITHOUT LATHROMETANASTES
NO ELECTORAL EKVIASMOUS
HARATSI FOR DEBTS WITHOUT WHICH I DID NOT

GREEK and I'm back our country and the lifestyle that I stole

Loathed the hypocritical apologies of those who brought my country in this terrible position and I want to punish them. Those who have destroyed us can not save us

I'm sick of the "monkey" patriots who steal my vote and shamelessly sell out

I am not asked for anything nor "ate together," and now I load everything as if I were to decide the

I do not want the foreign occupation of the Troika and the international usurersI am a worker and the job is a right not a privilege and should be rewarded for being able to live my family

I am a farmer and ravaged the countryside leaving megalokarcharies middlemen get rich at the expense of us all

I am a craftsman and crushed with imported species, with subsidized companies abroad and by heavy taxation

I am a civil servant, honest, not the "I" and I will not blackmail me for my workI retired to a life I worked, I paid them what I asked and now let me die

I am a scientist and I want to work for my country and not to leave immigrant

I served my country and do not tolerate the humiliation of another

With so many years people govern inferior circumstances and my expectations, which betrayed and stole my dreams

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I can't find any news as of 08:00 MST on 17 June, 2012.
The Guardian Online are doing a minute by minute live blog...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gree...?newsfeed=true

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5.05pm: Here's results of another poll, which puts the margin between the two frontrunners at just 0.5%.

SYRIZA 28, ND 27.5, PASOK 13, Dem Left 7.5, Ind Greeks 7.5, GD 5.5, KKE 5.5 Skai TV opinion poll, not exit poll #Greece2012
Golden Dawn running at 5.5%
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Projections so far...

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New Democracy will receive 29.53% of the vote, equivalent to 128 seats.
Syriza will receive 27.12% – 72 seats.
Pasok will receive 12.2% – 23 seats.
Independent Greeks will receive 7.56% – 20 seats.
Golden Dawn will receive 6.95% – 18 seats.
Democratic Left will receive 6.23% – 17 seats.
Greek Communist Party will receive 4.47% – 12 seats.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gree...?newsfeed=true



Golden Dawn running at 5.5%
What was all the excitement about the Greeks for? Looks to me like they are just typical white people who want communists and liberals governing them.
 
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What was all the excitement about the Greeks for? Looks to me like they are just typical white people who want communists and liberals governing them.
We have 0.1% of professing Nazis in this country and Golden Dawn is getting 7% of the vote. They did better this time in spite of a total press boycott and the slapping incident. It may be possible for elections to make a difference.
 
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What was all the excitement about the Greeks for? Looks to me like they are just typical white people who want communists and liberals governing them.
We have 0.1% professing Nazis in this country and Golden Dawn is getting 7% of the vote. They did better this time in spite of a total press boycott and the slapping incident. It may be possible for elections to make a difference.
 
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...85G0PZ20120617

Great news they retained their vote total approximately, especially important after the media was heavily "predicting" ie. pushing for them to wash out after the slapping incident.

The lesson here being that slapping communist women really isn't a bad thing at all...
 
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"The incident - replayed incessantly on television - was expected to dent the party's ratings but instead appeared to give it a boost, underscoring the disgust many Greeks feel towards their political class."

Someone call Linder in here so he can gloat...
 
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We see the tactics and the course in action. It is time to set the machine in motion in the 'states'.

Let's roll.
 
Old June 17th, 2012 #256
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The Judenpresse has had its feelings hurt by Golden Dawn.

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Greek far-right defies predictions with vote success
By Deepa Babington and Yiorgos Karahalis | Reuters – 3 hrs ago

ATHENS (Reuters) - The leader of Greece's ultra-right Golden Dawn party savored unexpected success in Sunday's election by taunting journalists and defiantly appearing on camera alongside a party official who went on the run for assaulting a leftist rival.

Hundreds of cheering supporters thronged the party's headquarters in Athens and officials threw ballot papers as confetti from windows after the group defied predictions to once again emerge as among the winners of the night. "Today's vote proves that the nationalist movement is here to stay," leader Nikolaos Mihaloliakos said in a televised message. "Golden Dawn represents the Greece of the future."

An official forecast showed the party was set to retain the 7 percent share of the vote it took in last month's inconclusive election, despite polls showing shrinking support as Greeks watched its members ordering reporters to stand to attention, denying the Holocaust or smiling next to an Auschwitz oven. "I offer my most heartfelt condolences to all who tried to not only reduce Golden Dawn's support, but also prevent it from entering parliament: Ladies and gentlemen, you've lost. Both you and the interests you represent," Mihaloliakos said. "The fight against you goes on, the fight against the misinformation of the Greek people goes on."

Pollsters said they were shocked to see Golden Dawn consolidate gains after an incident where spokesman Ilias Kasidiaris first hurled water at a leftist rival and then slapped another female rival during a live television debate. Kasidiaris then went on the run after a warrant was issued for his arrest, surfacing again when that expired. "They did not manage to ransack our vote, our percentage remained stable at 7 percent," party leader Mihaloliakos said in a second message to cameras where he was flanked by Kasidiaris, another supporter and two large Greek flags. "Golden Dawn is a political reality, it is here to stay."

INCIDENT BOOSTED SUPPORT

The incident - replayed incessantly on television - was expected to dent the party's ratings but instead appeared to give it a boost, underscoring the disgust many Greeks feel towards their political class. "We couldn't believe the indident actually boosted their popularity," a pollster said on condition of anonymity.

The once-obscure party has won support by campaigning on a virulently anti-immigrant and anti-politician platform - pledging to rid Greece of the "stench" of foreigners and seize the assets of corrupt politicians. It denies it is neo-Nazi, but sports a symbol that resembles the Nazi swastika and members frequently give Nazi-style salutes. Its leader has denied gas chambers existed in Nazi concentration camps, and the party openly flaunts books on Aryan supremacy and Adolf Hitler.

As results from Sunday's election began trickling in, about 300 supporters gathered to celebrate at the party's headquarters, prompting police to close off the street. A large Greek flag was hung from the balcony of the party's offices.

Journalists - who Golden Dawn frequently accuse of mudslinging and misrepresenting it - were turned away and the party issued a statement saying it would not talk to reporters. "I'd like to thank the hundreds of thousands of Greeks who did not correct their vote, as they were urged to do by paid journalists and propagandists, and stayed on the side of the Golden Dawn," Mihaliakos said in his message to cameras.

(Additional reporting by Harry Papachristou; Writing by Deepa Babington, editing by Mike Peacock)

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"I offer my most heartfelt condolences to all who tried to not only reduce Golden Dawn's support, but also prevent it from entering parliament: Ladies and gentlemen, you've lost.[ Both you and the interests you represent," Mihaloliakos said. "The fight against you goes on, the fight against the misinformation of the Greek people goes on."
Rubbing it right in their goddam lying mugs: THAT'S the way to do it!

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"We couldn't believe the indident actually boosted their popularity," a pollster said on condition of anonymity.
"Oy vey! OYYYY VEYYYY!!"

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Journalists - who Golden Dawn frequently accuse of mudslinging and misrepresenting it - were turned away and the party issued a statement saying it would not talk to reporters. "I'd like to thank the hundreds of thousands of Greeks who did not correct their vote, as they were urged to do by paid journalists and propagandists, and stayed on the side of the Golden Dawn," Mihaliakos said in his message to cameras.
Countering kike/commie aggression in the media & the streets not with finger-wagging mewls for fairness, but with GREATER aggression: these are the actions of winners - not whiners.
 
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This is good news. Let's hope support grows for these brave patriots.
 
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The Guardian is a leading English newspaper. They are expressing shock about the votes that Golden Dawn got.

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Greece's far-right Golden Dawn party maintains share of vote
Despite predictions of a slump in popularity, Golden Dawn won 6.92% of the vote – marginally down from 6.97% last month

Jon Henley and Lizzy Davies in Athens
guardian.co.uk, Monday 18 June 2012 18.17 BST


Caption:Golden Dawn party members celebrate the Greek election results. Photograph: Nikolas Giakoumidis/AP

Its members have slapped and hurled water at female rival politicians live on TV, threatened to throw immigrants and their children out of hospitals and creches, been accused of violent assaults on foreign workers in Athens, and arrested for attacking anarchists. But despite polls predicting Golden Dawn's share of the vote would slump following its shock eruption on to the national stage last month, support for Greece's ultra-right party – which preaches ridding the country of illegal immigrants, promotes books on Aryan supremacy and has denied the Holocaust – held strikingly firm in Sunday's general election re-run.

According to official government figures, Golden Dawn collected 425,970 votes compared with 441,018 in the previous, inconclusive vote on 6 May. That gave the party a 6.92% share of the national vote, only marginally down on the 6.97% it scored last month, and secured it 18 seats in parliament – just three fewer than before. "It really shows the aggression in Greek society right now," said Nikos Zydakis, commentator and editor in chief of the daily Kathimerini. "This is a society not just in crisis, but in depression – like Germany or Italy in the 30s. The EU is pushing too hard, on the economy, yes, but also on society, which is cracking. When that happens, all the barriers to extremism fall."

Golden Dawn collected around 10% of the vote in parts of Piraeus and the Peloponnese, and saw its share between the two polls fall significantly – by between 1% and 2% – in only a handful of electoral districts, including one part of Athens and in Corinthia. Its lowest score nationally was on Crete, where it averaged little over 3%. "Today's vote proves that the nationalist movement is here to stay," the party's leader, Nikolaos Mihaloliakos, who fiercely denies his party is neo-Nazi, said in a televised message on Sunday night. "Golden Dawn represents the Greece of the future."

Polls had earlier estimated that support for Golden Dawn had dipped to between 3.6% and 5% percent before Sunday's vote, with some voters seeming set to take their vote elsewhere after watching assorted party members order journalists to stand to attention, get themselves arrested for violent aggression, and smile next to an Auschwitz oven.

In the most highly publicised incident, the party spokesman Ilias Kasidiaris hurled water at one leftwing female rival then slapped another during a live TV debate, before going on the run. He appeared alongside his party leader on TV on Sunday night. Sia Anagnostpoulou, a historian and political scientist at Athens Panteion university, said Golden Dawn, whose party symbol resembles the Nazi swastika and whose members frequently give Nazi-style salutes, is rooted in a historic current of extreme nationalist neo-Nazism in Greece.

"Combine that with relatively high immigration, particularly Muslim immigration, and the fear and insecurity engendered by the economic crisis, and you have a potent cocktail," she said. "This is a racist party, its language is completely racist. But its support is nourished by fear." Zydakis said Golden Dawn, which opposes the international bailout deal for Greece, proposes mining Greece's borders to stop illegal immigration, and actively works to clean up crime-ridden neighbourhoods, is also part of a broader nationalist, protectionist and anti-immigrant movement across Europe, from Scandinavia through Austria, the Netherlands and France.

Javed Aslam, president of the Union of Immigrant Workers, said the party's score was also a consequence of mainstream political parties repeatedly blaming foreign workers for the country's woes. "Then people start to think: 'That's why I haven't got a job,'" he said. "The police, too, stand by while these people attack foreign workers on buses, trains, in the street. This is a black day for foreigners in Greece."

Golden Dawn voters, however, are increasingly confident about expressing their views. In the central Athens neighbourhood of Ayios Panteleimonas, Alex said he had voted for the party because "they help deal with the immigrants". A 29-year-old unemployed labourer, he said his mother had been attacked twice by men he presumed to be illegal immigrants. On one occasion "they took her crucifix from round her neck", he said.

Was he happy at Kasidiaris televised assault? "They wound him up, called him a fascist and a Nazi. How much is he supposed to take?" he said. "You can say that it's shameful. But, you know, she asked for it."

Party members and sympathisers have become a strong force in Ayios Panteleimonas, lingering outside cafes in black T-shirts. The area used to be solidly middle-class but has in recent years seen a large influx of immigration, mainly Somalis, Nigerians, eastern Europeans and south Asians. Violent crime has risen. Aris, a postman who grew up in the area, said crime was more of a concern than the economy. "When I don't feel safe in the place I was born, when I live just streets from my mother and she asks me to call her at 9pm to let her know I got home safe, it hurts psychologically," he said. "In a situation where we're going bankrupt, we just can't take more hard luck stories from another unfortunate part of the world."
 
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