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I know I've said this before, but why do we laugh at comedies featuring people like ourselves? I can't be the only one who thought Little Britain was brilliant when it first started, and then gradually realised there was nothing actually funny about it. Laughing at a white man dressed up as a Tory woman who is vomiting because she has realised the cake she has just eaten was made by a non-white. Same with the new comedy from Lucas and Walliams - the one about the airport. The customs officer is so blatantly a lampoon of a racist that it's pathetic. If you haven't seen it, one minute he will be accusing famous non-whites of not being who they say they are, and then he will be accepting a passport picture of an old black man to let a young asian girl into the country. It's all designed to get us to think our own thoughts and prejudices are silly, and to laugh at them. Instead of tackling the problem of immigration and passport fraud directly, we're being conditioned into thinking it's quite funny. |
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It's truly touching that this sham marriage has touched the hearts of millions and perhaps sham marriages aren't really so bad after all, if they're all like this. Another Eastenders storyline features a gay couple, one of them muslim. (Note that they couldn't get a muslim actor to kiss another male actor, so they had to get an Italian to play him) and how dreadful that they can't have a baby. They've done surrogacy, that didn't work, so now they're looking at adoption. The nation has its fingers crossed that the muslim's parents stop their ridiculous bigotry and come through with the references and picture of happy home life that is needed. Casualty touched on people smuggling last night with a depiction of terrible scars on an African (?) woman's back. Her sisted had died in the lorry they were smuggled in, so she hummed "Abide with me" to get her through her loss. Did you get that, nation? "Abide with me". She's a christian, just like you. It can never be said too many times - when something (the BBC) is funded by the state and uses the state to collect an enforced payment from the public, it will inevitably become a mouthpiece of the state and push the state's message. |
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Bev, what you are describing is (Frankfurt) Max Horkheimer's Critical Theory which is really the shaming and humiliating of white people. A form of psychological warfare that can be grounds for civil and even criminal action if one partner in a relationship tried to do something similar against the other (partner).
Here's a 27 page pdf you might find to be of interest. http://gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellne...orysociety.pdf |
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Is there anything more perverse than the morbidly obese couple who sit watching endless cookery programs only rising from their slumber to go to the front door to collect yet another pair of 18 inch pizzas, delivered to them as the kebabs and lager were the night before; by a newly arrived immigrant from Iraq? |
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A nice, healthy symbol that people associate with fresh fruit and veg is now going to be stuck on chips and mayonnaise! That'll work! |
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There was a time when working class folk were portrayed as salt of the earth types, hard working sometimes a bit dodgy but basically good eggs, look at Steptoe and Fools and Horses for example.
I noticed a change in the 80's with Rab C Nesbit, I used to laugh at it but then I began to realise how offensive and stereotypical it was I've never watched Shameless but I suspect that none of the characters are attending college/university trying to better themselves as many people from sink estates - myself included have done ?. The middle class liberals need someone to Hate and Mock, Filth like shameless seem to fit the bill !.
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Its a very clever way of demonising your enemy - belittling them. It reminded me of the Walter Scott novel: Ivanhoe in which the Norman invaders persecute the Saxons financially, and socially by way of portaying them as bestial and awkward with an inelegant tongue. The jews have a role too as financiers.
The English are becoming increasingly like their saxon forbears persecuted in their own land athousand years ago, but it's much more dangerous this time due to the demographic dilution that didn't happen after 1066 and all that. |
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Do you remember the Eastenders link I provided which stated that the Government had asked Eastenders writers to remove the shockhorror from HIV and make it clear that heterosexuals could contract the disease? They accomplished that by making a popular and heartthrob character contract HIV from his terminally ill wife who, I think, had been injecting drugs for the pain from her brain tumour. Think about how and when the attitude to HIV changed and you can probably, without googling, tell me the rough year that attitudes changed so dramatically. Now, whilst many might say that the knowledge that heterosexuals could contract HIV was a good message to spread, the fact still remains that a soap opera and a fictional character was instrumental in changing the attitude of the masses towards HIV. If it can push a good message, it can sure as hell push a damaging one. These examples prove conclusively that people are affected by the storylines seen on popular programmes. It is more fair to presume that I am in the minority and can see the hidden subtext of these stories whereas most other viewers can't. |
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That is very conceited of you,why should you be special ? and everyone else a rube ? It is grotesque people and by peoiple I am talking about normal working people with jobs do not allow eastenders storylines to dictate their lives.That this may not be the case in the turnip wastelands I can well believe the rubes up there in the mono racial - three for a pound- poom poom pant wearing workshy moaty fans believe any ballocks they are told or even see in the tea leaves
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Subtle. That's the word. It's not allowing storylines to dictate their lives. Soap characters are almost like friends - we know their secrets, we've watched them grow up, we invite them into our house and see them more often than we see members of our own family. It's only natural to empathise with them and what they face. Eastenders is famous for controversial storylines and as I related above, attitudes HAVE been changed because of their storylines featuring popular characters. They even admitted it in the case of the HIV storyline so why you go to such lengths to deny it, I have no idea. Oh - and it's normal, working class people I am talking about. |
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Anyone thinking a TV character is one of their friends is by definition an imbecile.That is the logical conclusion of your argument.What plans do you have to sign up mongols and gimps to "the movement" ?
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I didn't say they were friends, I said they were LIKE friends. Crucial difference. They're familiar faces. If you watch the shows, you begin to empathise with the situations. |
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I am niether a mongol or a gimp I do not swill beer in public,encourage children to burn gollies,wear poom poom pants or allow myself to accept simple solutions like a frankfurted rube.
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So you do not swill beer in public? You do realise that "pub" is short for "public house", don't you? I don't believe anyone here encourages children to burn gollies, wears poom poom pants - perhaps with the exception of Vijay Coomar - or accepts simple solutions so I'm not quite sure what that's all about. If, however, by "accepting simple solutions" you mean that people accept that the increase in racism convictions is down to the introduction of racism laws, then I'll give you that one. |
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