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Old December 18th, 2013 #1
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Old December 18th, 2013 #2
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Ultimately this was Hitler's grandest mistake. No one has ever invaded Russia and triumphed.The USA didn't defeat Germany, the Russian soldiers did.
 
Old December 18th, 2013 #3
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"Hitler’s interference, by disregarding valid intelligence reports and insisting on suicidal tactics, probably helped the Red Army’s thrust on Berlin more than any other single factor. Despite overwhelming repeated independent eyewitness and other evidence of massive troop build-ups on the Vistula and East Prussia fronts around 9 January 1945, Hitler was content to believe his sycophants, like Goebbels, Goering, Himmler, and even Keitel who should have known better, that 8,000 Russian aircraft deployed just behind the front line were mere decoys. Instead of redeploying some 200,000 troops wasting away in Latvia, he left them there to rot and failed to guard against his greatest danger."



 
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Hitler was content to believe his sycophants, like Goebbels, Goering, Himmler, and even Keitel who should have known better, that 8,000 Russian aircraft deployed just behind the front line were mere decoys. Instead of redeploying some 200,000 troops wasting away in Latvia, he left them there to rot and failed to guard against his greatest danger."
Yeah. Good point. Why they left them there in Latvia while the Soviets spearding toward Berlin.

I think the assassination attempt of explosive bomb that left his one arm injure and he was on pain killer.His generals took over.
 
Old December 18th, 2013 #5
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Ultimately this was Hitler's grandest mistake. No one has ever invaded Russia and triumphed.The USA didn't defeat Germany, the Russian soldiers did.
Hundreds of thousands of "lend lease" trucks shipped into Vladivostok (2/3 of the Red Army 's were American). Undeniably a huge logistical boost. Not to mention canned rations, etc. A lot of this pre 12/7/41, of course.
 
Old December 18th, 2013 #6
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

Obviously Hitler was a lunatic, and in the summer of 1934 the ideology changed from National Socialism to National Totalitarianism when the rats took over.

No big surprise that Hitler was most influential in the south of Germany, while the north of Germany favored Gregor Strasser.
 
Old December 19th, 2013 #7
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Obviously Hitler was a lunatic, and in the summer of 1934 the ideology changed from National Socialism to National Totalitarianism when the rats took over.
Rats who?

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No big surprise that Hitler was most influential in the south of Germany, while the north of Germany favored Gregor Strasser.
Source?
 
Old December 19th, 2013 #8
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Obviously Hitler was a lunatic, and in the summer of 1934 the ideology changed from National Socialism to National Totalitarianism when the rats took over.

No big surprise that Hitler was most influential in the south of Germany, while the north of Germany favored Gregor Strasser.
What would have happened if those guys had prevailed, how socialist were they really? I was always under the impression that they were communist trade unionists in brown shirts who would have produced a shithole similar to the former German Democratic Republic.
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Versaile treaty restricted Germany of armament until 1936. Russia was in full scale war production of GDP from 1920s with U.S. technologies of Ford motor engine mass produced the t- 34 tanks and the assault riffle Tommy gun.

Atlantic power were well ahead of the game of world domination.
 
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Wow you guys really love that pic of the jew carrying the Hitler bust. You think that rat ever did any real work in it's life? That breed is going to be snuffed by all its former hosts and slaves.
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Why the cane? Stubbed its toe on some loot while real workers were dying? Knock the jew off your back.
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Wow you guys really love that pic of the jew carrying the Hitler bust. You think that rat ever did any real work in it's life? That breed is going to be snuffed by all its former hosts and slaves.
That's a jew? Who was he?
 
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He´s not a jew -- he´s Russian.

And yes, I do love that picture.





 
Old December 19th, 2013 #14
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I think Americans see WWII as a purely ideological war for an economic system while Europeans see it as a war for ethnic dominance.
 
Old December 20th, 2013 #15
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I think Americans see WWII as a purely ideological war for an economic system while Europeans see it as a war for ethnic dominance.
Just how the hell would you know the way Americans see anything, you fucking Limey pest?

Here's WW2 in a nutshell, from an American perspective:

1. The German people rise up and reclaim their country from Jewish parasites.
2. Germany becomes the economic and military powerhouse of Western Europe.
3. Britain throws a tantrum like a spoiled faggot and declares war on Germany.
4. Germany proceeds to effortlessly stomp the shit out of Britain.
5. Britain gets FDR to provoke Germany's toadie, Japan, into attacking America.
6. America enters war, and single-handedly destroys Germany and Japan.
7. Russia becomes menace to the world for the next 46 years.
8. Jews victorious, receive homeland.

America coming to Britain's rescue in WW2 was the worst mistake we ever made.

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5. Britain gets FDR to provoke Germany's toadie, Japan, into attacking America.
Slightly disagree; It was FDR persuaded Churchill whom his predecessor Chamberlain was canned. Yankees elites wanted war in Europe.

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Slightly disagree; It was FDR persuaded Churchill whom his predecessor Chamberlain was canned. Yankees elites wanted war in Europe.
The British were begging for American intervention during the London Blitz.
 
Old December 21st, 2013 #18
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By 1933, FDR was in war stage preparation manufacturing arsenal of democracy and mobilizing constrimption through the new deal of recruiting work project in national park. The atom bomb project was been built well before before 1941;the ace in the hole primarly against Axis.
England manufacturing and conscription was no match against Axis.
The Brits had no choice but to ally with the Yanks lest their country be blown to smithereens.

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Old December 21st, 2013 #20
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What would have happened if those guys had prevailed, how socialist were they really?
If Wikipedia is accurate 'those guys' build the party, then Hitler took over, and we know what happened next. They probably would have been more reluctant to declare war on the world. I think Hitler was too busy day-dreaming about taking over the world to change much about the economic plans that had been laid out.

Gregor Strasser apparently partially retired from politics because the environment became increasingly hostile within the NSDAP and he was tired of dealing with Hitler and his gang.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Strasser

So that's how the less noble southern Germany got the upper-hand over northern Germany, and then the rats went for the jugular.
 
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