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Old July 29th, 2018 #1
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Default What's going on in Turkey?

https://www.vox.com/2018/7/26/176173...anctions-tweet

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President Donald Trump just said the US will place “large sanctions” on Turkey for detaining an American pastor for nearly two years — a move that could seriously ramp up tensions between the two NATO allies.

The pastor, Andrew Brunson, is originally from North Carolina but has lived in Turkey for more than 20 years. Turkish authorities detained him on October 7, 2016, claiming that he was a spy and had connections to a terrorist group. The US expected him to be released on July 18, but on Wednesday, Turkish officials moved Brunson due to health concerns and kept him under house arrest. The charges he’s facing mean he could spend the rest of his life in prison.

Trump has repeatedly called Brunson a “great Christian” and expressed his displeasure over the pastor’s detainment for months, but hadn’t taken significant action before Thursday. It’s unclear, though, why Trump decided to escalate this issue now, or what the sanctions he promised to impose might look like.
Is there some kinda geopolitical shift happening in Turkey? They seem to be challenging the USA, and Israel, as well as becoming closer to the Russians.

There might be a little more to that failed coup that happened in Turkey, than the media is leading on. Post failed-coup, Erdogan appears to have taken a more hostile stance against the USA and Israel. This hints to me that Erdogan is aware that US and Israeli assets were involved in the coup attempt against him, and now he's got an ax to grind. I can't really see any other reason for the increased hostilities, if it's anything other than this. And the fact that the USA is giving protection to the one who Erdogan claims is responsible, further hints to US involvement in the coup attempt. Erdogan is essentially demanding the USA give up one of their own operatives.

What I'm really hoping happens here, is that (((they))) alienate a powerful country, and push them into the anti-Zionist coalition, which includes Russia, Iran, Lebanon, Syria. Further strengthening the enemies of Zionist hegemony. And placing yet another enemy within proximity to Israel's borders.
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Old July 29th, 2018 #2
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If Erdogan withdraws Turkey from NATO and kicks the US ZOGbots out of Incirlik and elsewhere, I'll believe he means business. Don't know if he will go that far, since he probably likes all the money Turkey gets from that. But if Russia makes a better deal, then it's possible.
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Old July 30th, 2018 #3
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The USA is backing Kurdish terrorists in Syria, who's stated intention is the foundation of a Kurdistan. Turkey says they absolutely will not allow it.

The real question that should be asked, is why would the USA alienate Turkey, to promote the creation of a shithole like Kurdistan, which objectively has less strategic value than a cooperative Turkey? They're a NATO member, and possess probably the strongest military in the Muslim world. Why rock the boat?

Are the jews trying to destabilize Turkey? There is already some circumstantial evidence that they were involved in the coup attempt.

The only way this even makes any sense, is if you look at it from the perspective of this being a war against Whites. Destabilizing Turkey would mean millions more refugees going into Europe.

I smell a big fat jew rat.
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Old July 31st, 2018 #4
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USA congress:

H.R.5863 - To limit the transfer of F-35 aircraft to Turkey. - 05/17/2018 - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...y%22%5D%7D&r=5

H.Res.951 - Expressing concern with respect to the Government of Turkey's anticipated purchase of Russian S-400 surface-to-air missile batteries, and for other purposes. - 06/20/2018 - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...y%22%5D%7D&r=7

S.3248 - Turkey International Financial Institutions Act - 07/26/2018 - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...y%22%5D%7D&r=4

H.R.6633 - To restrict the provision by international financial institutions of loans and financial and technical assistance to the Government of Turkey, and for other purposes. - 07/26/2018 - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...-bill/6633?r=8





President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan [Addressing President of Russia Vladimir Putin]:

However, on the other hand we are seeing that our cooperation is causing envy from others.



Meeting with President of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan - https://vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=...&postcount=878
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Old August 1st, 2018 #5
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It's a little unclear how white the core Turkish people are. Some of the pictures I have seen leave me with doubts.
 
Old August 14th, 2018 #6
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What is Turkey Signing up with China?

Column: Economics Region: Middle East Country: Turkey

With Turkey’s fast run towards greater economic and strategic integration with the East, its once popular dream of integration with the West through the EU has come to a permanent end. After making defence deals with Russia, buying the state of the art S-400 missile system, and siding with Iran and Russia in Syria, Turkey has now entered into a new era of military co-operation with China, a cooperation that is already showing signs of taking place within a wider regional strategic understanding and a shared vision of an alternative world order that would encompass a lot more than just military cooperation. It wasn’t long ago when Turkey attended the BRICS plus meeting in South Africa, explicitly voicing its support for a desire to become a member of the group, making it ‘BRICST’, and now it has announced its intentions to do trade with Russia, China and Iran in local currencies, which means that Turkey has clearly signed permanently out of the Western military bloc. It will now have the means to by-pass major US policies, such as Iran sanctions, and will have more room to make independent policies, shunning NATO’s influence or the pressure of meeting its commitments.

Two things clearly indicate Turkey’s serious search for new friends. In an op-ed for New York Times on August 10, 2018, Erdogan argued that Turkey is serious in “looking for new friends and allies.” Undoubtedly now, China is atop the list of new friends. In the 100-day action plan revealed by the Turkish government last week, which is based upon the hope to implement sustainable policies in every sector, China has been mentioned in several capacities as an economic partner and a source of external investment, one that might help arrest the ‘free-fall’ Turkish Lira is currently experiencing. And unsurprisingly, in the run-up to the 100-day plan, Turkish ministry of Treasury and Finance announced to have secured a new credit line from China valuing at least at 3.6 billion dollars.

While the heavy borrowing doesn’t portray the overall economic situation in positive terms, Turkey has been left with no choices as well. Turkish companies have borrowed roughly 300 billion dollars in foreign currency, and now have to repay it in devalued Turkish lira. What adds more to the pressure is the fact that most of the debt was issued when the Turkish lira traded at less than 2 to the dollar. It now trades at more than 6 to the dollar, thus tripling the debt services to be paid back.

On top of it is the worsening impact of new US tariffs on Turkey, implying a virtual US attack on Turkey to punish it for its alignment with Russia and Iran over Syria, making the US sanctions credibly ‘weaponized’ as a tool of foreign policy and diplomatic coercion. And, if this is to be taken as a start of war, Turkey’s search for new friends in the East becomes logical and timely as well.

For China itself, Turkey, after Iran and Pakistan, is perhaps the next territorial link to complete its New Silk Roads to connect with Europe. And to strengthen its relations with China under the New Silk Roads banner, Turkey is most likely to offer its ports. China’s state-owned shipping company COSCO Pacific already owns 65% of Turkey’s third largest port, and the two countries can expand their partnerships in Turkey’s other ports, in the Mediterranean Sea, in the Aegean Sea, and at the Black Sea, linking all these ports through railway networks.

This in turn also aligns the two different territorial strategies of Turkey and China. Turkey’s own central corridor strategy that aims at linking Europe to Central Asia and to Afghanistan, Pakistan and China matches with China’s Belt and Road initiative, giving the two countries an opportunity to mutually expand their geography of trade.

While this is likely on the cards, projections in the western media that Turkey will likely be completely absorbed by China in the wake of a Chinese expansion look a bit farfetched and unfounded.

For instance, despite the growing distance between the EU and Turkey, EU remains by far the largest Turkish export market. For instance, in 2017, according to the Turkish Statistics Institute, Turkey’s total exports to China were the equivalent of – in dollar terms – only 19.4% of exports to Germany, or 33.9% of exports to the US.

As of April 2018, according to Central Bank of Turkey data, 72.1% of foreign direct investment stock in Turkey originated from Europe, and 7.6% from the United States, while China’s share stood at a minimal 1.1%.

While there is however no gainsaying that this share will jump in the coming years, Turkey’s alignment with China doesn’t mean Turkey completely shunning its trade with the West. If nothing else, the four-million strong Turkish diaspora in Europe will continue to be a permanent factor in shaping Turkish-EU economic relations in the years to come.

Both China and Turkey have their own specific reasons in enhancing their mutual relations. For China, Turkey is the last key to build New Silk Roads to connect China with Europe, the Balkans, and the Middle East; for Turkey, China is a suitable country to turn to look for investment and thus diversify Turkey’s trade and economic portfolio to minimize the impact of the US ‘trade wars’ that have started to hit every country along the line.

For Turkey, the primary purpose remains diversification and less dependence on the West. Turkey therefore isn’t going to be “consumed” by China as the western pundits seem to be hoping. On the contrary, China’s presence will help Turkey insulate itself against economic shocks from the West, particularly the US.

https://journal-neo.org/2018/08/13/w...up-with-china/
 
Old August 14th, 2018 #7
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Anglin is dead wrong here:

https://dailystormer.name/turkeys-ec...s-master-plan/

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Turkey is a member fo NATO (which is insane), and Trump is attempting to collapse NATO. Getting Turkey to spin completely out of control will demonstrate the absolute absurdity of the NATO project. Right now, the NATO welfare queens of Europe have to defend the honor of Turkey, as their entire scam of funneling money from the US taxpayer to fund their anti-Russian war-machine is based on the portrayal of NATO as a stable entity.
There you have it folks. This is Chump playing 4D chess, with his real goal being to collapse NATO.

The USA is the one who hasn't been a good ally to Turkey. The USA backs Kurdish terrorists on Turkey's borders, and expects Turkey to be OK with it.

Erdogan's shifting of allegiances, is very much as a result of disastrous US foreign policy.

If Anglin is suggesting "why would the USA be this stupid, unless they have ulterior motives?", that's a reasonable question, but the answer to that has nothing to do with the USA seeking to undermine NATO. These policies against Turkey started during Obama's term, and intensified under Trump. Sorry cucks, it's not the "deep state". It's jews and their shabbos goy Zionist war mongers. I bet this is some of John Bolton's work.

The real mistake by the USA was overestimating the amount of leverage they had over Turkey. They also underestimated other parties willingness to step up and offer Turkey something, simply to undermine US hegemony.
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