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Old March 25th, 2017 #1
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Default Creativity Perspective on YouTube/Creativity Blog

JamesMac is the leader of Creativity. He is from England.

There is a new YouTube Channel with some vids re Creativity:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkY...L-Q8qUhVagxVgg

Here's a very good example of why Matt Hale was removed from having freedom to work as he pleased-an episode of White Revolution:

For more White Revolution, and other Creativity vids, YouTube channel 'DailyRahowa' has lots of good stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...DCyB5qLndr52kg

The Creativity Movement Website: www.creativitymovement.net
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Old March 27th, 2017 #2
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Leader as new Pontefix Maximus?
 
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Leader as new Pontefix Maximus?
Yes.

He's very serious, dedicated, and logical. There are good intro to Creativity materials he's putting out all over Britain. A goal is to match that in the US.

Anyone who has an interest, go to www.creativitymovement.net and look for a local contact. You can also find contact info for JamesMac and the US HQ is South Dakota's Rev Chappell.
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Default Sate of the Church blog entry from Rev Logsdon

Rev Logsdon, 20 years a Creator and still a Creator, addresses the church and wishes the new PM well:

http://creativitymovement.net/blog/s...rch-44ac-2017/

The forum is not up right now but should be back up soon.

Donations to Creativity can be made via Paypal using the email address of Rev. Chappell under 'contacts', SD.
You can send them via reg mail to SD also.
Some info/books/promo materials can be sent your way if you ask for them, too.
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What is backgound of James Mack? What is his education degree? He speak very well about nationalists problem who also exist in my state. Only exist small part of racial nationalists who do not know much about it as in states worldwide. So important is only unite such pro-racial nationalists who will put race on first place because their nations will become mongrelized and nationalists who celebrate flag will be mostly non-white so it will be impossible be nationalist and pro-white.


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What is backgound of James Mack? What is his education degree? He speak very well about nationalists problem who also exist in my state. Only exist small part of racial nationalists who do not know much about it as in states worldwide. So important is only unite such pro-racial nationalists who will put race on first place because their nations will become mongrelized and nationalists who celebrate flag will be mostly non-white so it will be impossible be nationalist and pro-white.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovXL9aCzONs
The part I put in bold is quite true, but native English speakers will not always understand your meaning (not trying to overly criticize, it is not easy to have a conversational tone in a foreign language and most Americans are not even attempting to be bilingual). I want to clarify what you said because it's a good point.

In Creativity, the idea of racial loyalty over Nationalism is a key concept.

Matt and I wrote back and forth about the Olympics in Summer 2016, and how 'USA' in Gymnastics looked like Brazil in terms of the racial make-up of the athletes. You couldn't tell what race half of them even were, they were so mixed. So we both felt a kinship with team Russia or Romania almost more-so than our own country, because we have more in common with them than others from our 'nation'.

One can be interested in establishing their Nation, though, but without race it is meaningless, imo. A Nation is not just a set of ideals, it's has a biological component, much as people don't want to say it does. Same way people think a set of religious ideals (like Xtianity) can 'transform' people into something other than what they biologically already are. Racialists don't believe that.
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So we both felt a kinship with team Russia or Romania almost more-so than our own country, because we have more in common with them than others from our 'nation'.
This was american look. I am going to tell what was my look when I from Europe went to USA. I thought that I am stranger now because I am not inside my nation nor I do not know language but after I saw racial situation I knew who are my people so I only saw black and white and forgot for my nation. Many nationalists are poor class people while liberals are upper class people. Creativity can be ideology for them but while they do not belive in communism and christianity you can not speak to them about jewish conspiracy rather using just Darwin,Galton and Smith. Such three whites said all. I belive that Klassen speak about jewish conspiracy to lower class Whites just for promotion because it was hard to find some upper class Whites who can financial support their religion. Liberals must be first on target because they have money. Klassen also have liberal opinion about economy with global capitalism just for Whites and small taxation something as in movie "Matrix" where someone work against tehnology and for planet Zion and Whites are on upper level,not humans for them than "computer simulation person" designed by White arhitect. Neo from Matrix is just liberal who understand something and he using tehnology for saving humanity instead of help to their own people.

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This was american look. I am going to tell what was my look when I from Europe went to USA. I thought that I am stranger now because I am not inside my nation nor I do not know language but after I saw racial situation I knew who are my people so I only saw black and white and forgot for my nation. Many nationalists are poor class people while liberals are upper class people. Creativity can be ideology for them but while they do not belive in communism and christianity you can not speak to them about jewish conspiracy rather using just Darwin,Galton and Smith. Such three whites said all. I belive that Klassen speak about jewish conspiracy to lower class Whites just for promotion because it was hard to find some upper class Whites who can financial support their religion. Liberals must be first on target because they have money.
If I understand your meaning, re the part in bold:
The 'poor class' Nationalists you speak of vs. 'upper class' White people. There is no denying that there is some truth there, but in the US we call them 'Progressives' and they are secretly as racist as anyone, but put up a front of loving diversity--so long as they can 'love it' from their gated community.

Re the 'poor class' or working class White Nationalists (btw Richard Spencer comes from an extremely wealthy family and traditionally in the wayback all Whites were openly, for the most part, of a 'separatist' mentality before the 60s) are, many of them, well-read.
The kind of people that are attracted to Creativity or the NA or anything similar are usually self-starter, well-read people who would absolutely listen to someone speak of Darwin, Galton, or Smith. It is Christian Identity WNists who are ignorant 'white trash' most of the time, and even within that subset there are some well-read people who just have such 'high voltage' attachment to their faith they won't let it go.

I agree with you that evolutionary biology pretty much says it all, yes.

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Klassen also have liberal opinion about economy with global capitalism just for Whites and small taxation something as in movie "Matrix" where someone work against tehnology and for planet Zion and Whites are on upper level,not humans for them than "computer simulation person" designed by White arhitect. Neo from Matrix is just liberal who understand something and he using tehnology for saving humanity instead of help to their own people.
I think you misunderstand Klassen--he would not want to pull technological strings to save 'humanity' but actually believed Whites-and only Whites-should occupy every continent on earth. That's pretty far/radical. No taxation for niggers-they wouldn't be on the planet in Klassen's ideal world.

Realistically speaking, I think other types of people who can exist without harm to me or mine will occur--but there is a demand for resources, and some day a one race planet may be what we have--it may be us, it may be the Chinese, it may be some mixed race cappuccino colored monkey mixture, lol. But Whites would have to have at least stood for a region that is controlled for, by, and of it's own racial interests, somewhere. If that's a whole continent or a Nation, it would have to start somewhere.

I don't care what religion anyone follows, they need to be racially loyal and smart enough to think for themselves. Part of that is in realizing the answers are available (Darwin, Galton, Smith) and we don't need a false diety that can't hear our prayers. As Pat Tilman told that Mormon kid when they were being shot at: 'Stop praying, we need to do something.'
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The kind of people that are attracted to Creativity or the NA or anything similar are usually self-starter, well-read people who would absolutely listen to someone speak of Darwin, Galton, or Smith.
However none of white leaders do not speak clearly through such person. Explanation of problem is next: every species have will to survive. We and other races are from same specie homo-sapiens this is what tell us Darwin and this will accept upper class liberals.

Galton teaching us that only best homo-sapiens must survive because if this will not happen,we can not develop.

Smith teaching us that we must havee capitalist economy with small tax to state as is possible.

Such person did not mention race,nation. They just spoke about problems of all humans so instead of promotion unpopular persons it is only important to have knowlege from Darwin,Galton,Smith what mean that it will make you upper class where you would through influence speak about problems of society.

Spencer...I did not know if he is from rich class but he do not have full knowlege about such persons and I am going to give you few examples:

officaly USA will in 2060. become non-white state so he want to accept non-whites inside.

Hhe support closing borders who put immigrants just because big state intervention and closing borders mean nationalism who is danger especially in Europe in situation as today in Ukraine and Russia,obsession with expansion in some other nation who is also white and as James Mack said,nationalist including Trump,Putin are not pro-white oriented. Whites can be self-destructive through nationalism for themselves without niggers. Lothrop Stoddard wrote book "Rising of the color against white-world supermacy" where he said that ww1 was for white killinkg white,in fact it was nationalist war between white nations. Popuation after were billion people and in future it can become 14 billion mostly non-white where he attack state intervention in book "Revolt against civilization" where he said that poor whites and non-whites dream about revolt against peace world. In movie "The Great Gatsby" Tom as white rich person show Stoddard book "Rising of the coor..." to liberals without some conspiracy theories.

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However none of white leaders do not speak clearly through such person. Explanation of problem is next: every species have will to survive. We and other races are from same specie homo-sapiens this is what tell us Darwin and this will accept upper class liberals.

Galton teaching us that only best homo-sapiens must survive because if this will not happen,we can not develop.

Smith teaching us that we must havee capitalist economy with small tax to state as is possible.

Such person did not mention race,nation. They just spoke about problems of all humans so instead of promotion unpopular persons it is only important to have knowlege from Darwin,Galton,Smith what mean that it will make you upper class where you would through influence speak about problems of society.

Spencer...I did not know if he is from rich class but he do not have full knowlege about such persons and I am going to give you few examples:

officaly USA will in 2060. become non-white state so he want to accept non-whites inside.

Hhe support closing borders who put immigrants just because big state intervention and closing borders mean nationalism who is danger especially in Europe in situation as today in Ukraine and Russia,obsession with expansion in some other nation who is also white and as James Mack said,nationalist including Trump,Putin are not pro-white oriented. Whites can be self-destructive through nationalism for themselves without niggers. Lothrop Stoddard wrote book "Rising of the color against white-world supermacy" where he said that ww1 was for white killinkg white,in fact it was nationalist war between white nations. Popuation after were billion people and in future it can become 14 billion mostly non-white where he attack state intervention in book "Revolt against civilization" where he said that poor whites and non-whites dream about revolt against peace world. In movie "The Great Gatsby" Tom as white rich person show Stoddard book "Rising of the coor..." to liberals without some conspiracy theories.
I see your point. Yes, an all-White Nation can be destructive without niggers, sure. Trying to gobble each other's resources, religious fighting, ethnic 'we're better' ism that goes into killing territory, yes, I understand what you mean.

But if we cease to exist racially, then it won't matter at all, as there is nothing left to fight for. Or that's how a racial loyalist sees it.

I think every race have similar feelings, obviously--as you bring up Darwin, those are put there and they're innate. Only Whites are taught these feelings are 'bad'.
I think they do work against Black Nationalists too, though--the ones who wanted nothing to do with Whites, like the followers of Garvey who wanted to leave the USA. Many were murdered and lives destroyed--they wanted assimilation instead.

But with American liberals--they are smart and know what they're doing-it will not behoove them to tell the truth about race, but inwardly they know it. So they will vehemently reject all talk of a biological need for racial separation.

Curious what we're getting at, though--what is your idea on how to approach it? It looks like you're saying we should appeal to the more intelligent progressives, as they will 'get it', but then when they do, you sound like you find fault with a racial model of Nationalism. So I'm confused as to what you think the 'game plan' is, lol.

Right now people are just trying to not be pushed off a cliff, figuratively speaking. Any racial cohesion-with of course better classes of people as much as it can be, re their behavior not income-is what we'd all hope for.
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Curious what we're getting at, though--what is your idea on how to approach it? It looks like you're saying we should appeal to the more intelligent progressives, as they will 'get it', but then when they do, you sound like you find fault with a racial model of Nationalism. So I'm confused as to what you think the 'game plan' is, lol.
Well Klassen had same opinion as I. He said that it is wrong speak about Creativity through un-intelligent persons but we saw that is Creativity synonym for white gangs and average white person do not want nothing to have with it. Klassen wanted also rich people who will support his idea but from my expirience you will fall if you will use race and jewish question in conversation with them. Upper class still live in white society as most of liberals so you must become rich with influence for example as Trump because if you do not do nothing in personal life nobody of white upper class people will not respect you. We have too much conspiracy theories for example whites had same problem in Aryan India where they were mongrelized without jews and too small people with influence. I one day watched tv and saw rich cass of white people how they live and they live in white dream like kings so I do not blame just jews for today situation nor I belive that only they ruled in world. Conspiracy theories can pass only on such forums where exist people who do not have enough money for change something. Having 1000 pro-whites workers without money is nothing but having capitalist who are boss of such number of workers is better because he is always in community of better people and he can collect 1000 capitalists with 1000 workers and gather million pro-white people. In fact,they are real creator ie. job creator about all whites have benefit. Why Stormfront can not collect more donations? Because Duke speak just on conspiracy theories and advocate strong middle class what is not free market thinking of what except upper class not he do not have knowlege how to do so.

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Racial loyalty is hard. It's hard enough to be loyal to members of your immediate family, let alone folks who are only very distantly related to you, who don't speak your language, know your history or culture, or share your views. Just because they are members of the "White Race".

What it really means to be a member of the "White Race" is that you say you have a common enemy who is out to get you, namely the Jew and his henchmen (non-whites and whites who don't buy it).

Of course it's tautologically true that the White Race defined in this way really does have folks who are opposed to it and what they (rightfully) see as a cult-like mentality.

But members thrive on this opposition since it enables them to keep the focus fixed on the "other": we are being killed by the other; we are superior to the other. This is what unites the White Race.

The Aryan race, on the other hand, is totally different.
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You need something to connect you besides a tenuous genetic link. Aryanism provides that commonality that connects all Aryan peoples.
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That thing is race. Race is not as distant as u suggest--more tangible than god or soul (which aren't tangible at all.)
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Fico,

The reason it's seen as a 'gang', and donations to websites re race are low is marginalization. Many times, people who can make money and 'function' won't touch it, so you're left with some people there for all the wrong reasons. Makes even more probs for the ones there for all the right reasons.

So at some point you say, "even if there are some bad things (or things that are not your 'thing') here, is this belief valid/true, or not?"
If the answer was 'not', you'd say, "well, bye bye." If it's truth, then it doesn't matter if a purple piņata said it.

You can choose with whom you associate, and imo the main interest should be biological- all else (religion especially) is secondary. If bleeding, get bandage before all else.
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The reason it's seen as a 'gang', and donations to websites re race are low is marginalization.
I do not thing so. Stormfront looking approximately 40 000 people per day. On Stormfront are just few persons probably less than 10 who can pay donation more than 1000 dollars. I do not thing that white man do not know for Duke so why he through donations could not win? Answer is probably "because jews have money so it is impossible to do something" really? As I know rich upper class whites have clean situation without financiral problems nor they obviously not practice socialist doctrine as communism and christianity,they are liberals and do not exist WN who can go in such club to know what they want because without them in movement whites will become mongrelized. They will not listen white person without money or white workers because they are nothing for them. White businessmen are not marginalized,they can all solve in one meeting if they want.

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You can choose with whom you associate, and imo the main interest should be biological- all else (religion especially) is secondary.
Beliefs (such as this one that you hold) are important, and imo often trump biological considerations. I would imagine you would rather associate with a non-white who is reasonable and non-violent and respects your concern for race than with a mentally unstable white person who holds your views in disdain.

Having an affinity for folks who are biologically related to you, wanting to preserve your blood, is a big part of ethno-nationalism. In fact it's crucial that citizens of the ethno-state believe in the importance of preserving their blood, that they value their blood. Otherwise their blood will go out the window.

Let me repeat for emphasis: Blood and 'soul' (beliefs/values) must go hand-in-hand.

Aryanism, focusing on our own history and heritage ('racial soul'), seems to me the natural path for getting our peoples to feel a connection to one another and value their blood. Another (imo misguided) path is to focus on the "other", to assert our superiority over the other, and broadcast our intention to exterminate the other.

Note: I've been intentionally using the example of ethnicity rather than race because folks of the same ethnicity (who have been interbreeding for centuries) are necessarily going to be closely related, whereas folks from far-flung ethnicities are going to be much more distantly related (e.g. Greeks have had Turkic/Semitic/Hamitic influx, versus Celtic Irish much less so). Some ostensibly white folks, like Turanian Hungarians, even identify strongly with non-white races.

So imo ethnicity seems a more logical basis for a people than race, although there is no denying the racial tie between ethnicities. It would be a shame to lump all the ethnicities into a single white state. But it would also be a shame for ethnicities to wage war on each other, as has happened so often in the past.

So imo ethnicities should have their sovereignty, but also recognize their common racial bond.
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I do not thing so. Stormfront looking approximately 40 000 people per day. On Stormfront are just few persons probably less than 10 who can pay donation more than 1000 dollars. I do not thing that white man do not know for Duke so why he through donations could not win? Answer is probably "because jews have money so it is impossible to do something" really? As I know rich upper class whites have clean situation without financiral problems nor they obviously not practice socialist doctrine as communism and christianity,they are liberals and do not exist WN who can go in such club to know what they want because without them in movement whites will become mongrelized. They will not listen white person without money or white workers because they are nothing for them. White businessmen are not marginalized,they can all solve in one meeting if they want.
Firstly, I gave to SF once I started writing there more...but anyone who pays 1000 to have their speech censored has flipped. I've never had a post deleted, reworded, or seen another post 'fixed' for the poster on VNN, so for anything you don't like that you're reading over here, at least it really is what people said. You can respond, not respond, or whatever, but it's left as it actually happened--free speech does include seeing stuff you don't like. SF could at least be honest as VNN is re their stance on not allowing people to post 5,000 word Bible passage propaganda, and not pretend they respect the non-religious who walk amongst 'em.

While Duke has made some good points stating the obvious, he stands on the shoulders of other giants imo. Not to take away from standing up for race when it was harder than now, but his Christianity is in the way of 'ever offending Xtians' and that is a prob in getting donations, in getting 'thinkers' and so on.

Re businessmen: they can't attain millions being known for racism--those in that class were either born into it, or are keeping their real activities a secret. That's what has to change, and it's why Spencer was interesting to people to the point where they attacked him and his whole fam--he has money and could live well without ever bringing trouble on himself.
In some ways, though, it depends on how you attain your $, because some who come from familial wealth (like Spencer) do have the advantage of not so quickly falling on hard times if they find themselves attacked for being high profile speaker-outers.

But the biggest prob. is White people that are living lives with no problems, but feel a racial pull to see if there's some way to get involved in a racial movement, and they don't want to be part of something that they worry will either harm them 'for real' or harm them because being 'racial' gets people to turn on you who are mainstream, and in charge of all manner of livelihood. So if I understand you correctly, what you are asserting is right with re to that--well off Whites don't want to show support for something when they'll basically 'get in trouble' for it in some way, like Matt not getting his law license.

Same principal as expressing Atheism in highly unfriendly areas-and that is true of all races, as nobody love Jesus more than a black woman. There are people who will even sit in church just to avoid the 'what church do you attend?' controversy, but they don't believe in it.

Two things imo needed more than all else:

1.Money/power--and they can keep that from you but there are ways around it. Money is lobbying power, like it was for gays. Being gay was viewed as weird and even contemptible into the 80s, and by the 90s you were weird and contemptible if you said you thought it was abnormal.

2.Mainstreaming the lingo--if people--enough of them--don't care about being called any manner of filth and stick to their narrative and 'push back' then the 'you are not allowed to say that' thing kind of goes by the wayside, and that's why they're working on passing so many anti-'hate speech' (criticism speech is not hate necessarily, lol) laws.
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Fico, imo Aryanism is a way for 'respectable' folks to get involved in nationalism/racialism. As soon as it becomes possible for people to discuss these topics in public I think there will be a lot of folks coming out of the closet and contributing to the conversation.
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Beliefs (such as this one that you hold) are important, and imo often trump biological considerations.
My belief in biological considerations is important and therefore trumps biological considerations.

You sound like my legal books, lol.

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I would imagine you would rather associate with a non-white who is reasonable and non-violent and respects your concern for race than with a mentally unstable white person who holds your views in disdain.
I'll go you one further, sort of: I instantly distrust non-whites for good reason, but of course there are all manner of people in the world, so one black man on a train is just going to town and won't bother anyone, and another one will. Because of biological considerations, I know it's more likely for more black men to be violent than White. A Chinese family moving in next door doesn't scare me the same as a fam from Tijuana who have tattoos on their necks would. White gangbangers, same, but there are far less of those.

However, if someone is White and is one of our 'low', they don't have to hold my views in disdain to be a person I'd not be around. I said in an earlier post--movements that cause you to be marginalized actually attract such, not just with this but other things. They 'hide' in it, and aren't in it for the right reasons-causes probs for the sincere, and it's why, as Fico is referring to re funding, more people won't attach their name to something that they actually do agree with on it's purpose and point.

And the Govt subverts movements, shouldn't gloss over that. They wreck people who are really doing something good, and let go all manner of crud, like the joke that are the pointy hat gang, and actual prison based stuff, and so on.

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Having an affinity for folks who are biologically related to you, wanting to preserve your blood, is a big part of ethno-nationalism. In fact it's crucial that citizens of the ethno-state believe in the importance of preserving their blood, that they value their blood. Otherwise their blood will go out the window.

Let me repeat for emphasis: Blood and 'soul' (beliefs/values) must go hand-in-hand.
The prob, George, is that you are referring to a 'racial soul' here, which is fine if you want to call it this. But you are also in other spaces referring to how good it is to have a god, a set of rules all agree on that are set forth by this 'god' to grow a people, and that's where you contradict yourself.

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Originally Posted by George Witzgall View Post
Aryanism, focusing on our own history and heritage ('racial soul'), seems to me the natural path for getting our peoples to feel a connection to one another and value their blood. Another (imo misguided) path is to focus on the "other", to assert our superiority over the other, and broadcast our intention to exterminate the other.
Well, connection and blood, I agree. Overly focused on expressing superiority--that happens, but when people are claiming you should die because you colonized the formerly happy world, you have to start affirming your goodness and their 'not-so-goodness'. Re exterminating, that's where it gets into matters of opinion of course. I think they'll exterminate us if we don't assimilate. I don't like war and whatnot but that's the point at which you are either allowed to protect yourself, and if you're not, one or the other will succumb. That's what's behind that.

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Originally Posted by George Witzgall View Post
Note: I've been intentionally using the example of ethnicity rather than race because folks of the same ethnicity (who have been interbreeding for centuries) are necessarily going to be closely related, whereas folks from far-flung ethnicities are going to be much more distantly related (e.g. Greeks have had Turkic/Semitic/Hamitic influx, versus Celtic Irish much less so). Some ostensibly white folks, like Turanian Hungarians, even identify strongly with non-white races.

So imo ethnicity seems a more logical basis for a people than race, although there is no denying the racial tie between ethnicities. It would be a shame to lump all the ethnicities into a single white state. But it would also be a shame for ethnicities to wage war on each other, as has happened so often in the past.

So imo ethnicities should have their sovereignty, but also recognize their common racial bond.
Nothing wrong with sovereign ethno States to me.
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