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Old December 13th, 2007 #1
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Default What is the true origin of the term racism?

Debate on this in a KT thread. I had always heard Lenin coined it in the 1920s. Reading around, I just came across claim that in fact jew Trotsky coined it.

What have you heard?
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #2
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KT thread:

http://www.kirksvilletoday.com/?p=102

According to the Oxford English Dictionary the term 'racist' was coined by Leon Davidovich Bronstein (Leon Trotsky). Anti-racism is a major focus of Cultural Marxism."

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/23/metapedia/
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #3
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"American Renaissance" states that American author Lawrence Dennis was the first to use the word, in English, in his 1936 book "The coming American fascism".

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives...origins_of.php
 
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"American Renaissance" states that American author Lawrence Dennis was the first to use the word, in English, in his 1936 book "The coming American fascism".

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives...origins_of.php
AmRen is not a credible source, as it exists to exculpate and otherwise protect jews.
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #5
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I have read that it was coined by Magnus Hirschfeld also a Jew.

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/racism.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search



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Old December 13th, 2007 #6
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I have read that it was coined by Magnus Hirschfeld also a Jew.

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/racism.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search



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Marx, Engels, Trotsky & Lenin are the kings of the -isms. They had an -ism for everything.
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #7
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I do not have an account with the OED to verify but according to this guy the OED entry is as follows:

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[f. RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]

a. The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race. b. = RACIALISM.

1936 L. DENNIS Coming Amer. Fascism 109 If..it be assumed that one of our values
should be a type of racism which excludes certain races from citizenship, then the
plan of execution should provide for the annihilation, deportation, or sterilization of
the excluded races.

1938 E. & C. PAUL tr. Hirschfeld's Racism xx. 260 The apostles and energumens of
racism can in all good faith give free rein to impulses of which they would be
ashamed did they realise their true nature.

1940 R. BENEDICT Race: Science & Politics i. 7 Racism is an ism to which everyone
in the world today is exposed.

1952 M. BERGER Equality by Statute 236 Racism, tension in industrial,
urban areas.

1952 Theology LV. 283 The idolatry of our timeits setting up of nationalism, racism,
vulgar materialism.

1960 New Left Rev. Jan./Feb. 21/2 George Rogers saw fit to kow-tow to the incipient
racism of his electorate by including a line about getting rid of "undesirable
elements".

1964 GOULD & KOLB Dict. Social Sci. 571/2 Racism is a newer term for the word
racialism... There is virtual agreement that it refers to a doctrine of racial supremacy.

1971 Ceylon Daily News (Colombo) 18 Sept. 8/5 Mr. Seneviratne is welcome to his
ideal of inter-racial marriages as panacea for Racism.

1972 J. L. DILLARD Black English iii. 90 In the British sailors' reactions to the
slaves.., the very early existence of racism is as well documented as the difference in
language.

1974 M. FIDO R. Kipling 50/2 In The Story of Muhammad Din he wrote one of the
most economical and bitter attacks on British racism ever penned.

1976 Plain Dealer (Cleveland, Ohio) 4 Mar. A2/4 The Vatican radio said,.."Racism might have different faces but it will always be reprehensible."

1977 M. WALKER National Front vi. 155 A strike of the Asian workers against racism
in the factory.
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Does anyone here own any Pro-Soviet books from the 1920's or 1930's? I wonder if the word was used in those? In my 1933 Pro Soviet book by Jewish writer Maurice Gershon Hindus called The Great Offensive he only uses the term "race prejudice"
 
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I have read that it was coined by Magnus Hirschfeld also a Jew.

http://www.heretical.com/miscella/racism.html

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search



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From: The History of the Russian Revolution 1930 By Leon Trotsky

Chapter 1: Peculiarities of Russia’s Development

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Originally Posted by Leon Trotsky
Slavophilism, the messianism of backwardness, has based its philosophy upon the assumption that the Russian people and their church are democratic through and through, whereas official Russia is a German bureaucracy imposed upon them by Peter the Great. Mark remarked upon this theme: “In the same way the Teutonic jackasses blamed the despotism of Frederick the Second upon the French, as though backward slaves were not always in need of civilised slaves to train them.” This brief comment completely finishes off not only the old philosophy of the Slavophiles, but also the latest revelations of the “Racists.”
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trot...0/hrr/ch01.htm
 
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From: The History of the Russian Revolution 1930 By Leon Trotsky

Chapter 1: Peculiarities of Russia’s Development
This citation will only hold if the work was written in English and actually used
the word "racist." Is this a translation and if so what is the date?

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This citation will only hold if the work was written in English and actually used
the word "racist." Is this a translation and if so what is the date?

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Translated by Max Eastman, 1932
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #13
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not to split hairs here, but if there was a similar word used by jews in russia it still wouldnt have been the english word racism. if the word didnt exist in english it would have been translated as racial prejudice or something. so we should be looking for the first english source of the word
 
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This citation will only hold if the work was written in English and actually used
the word "racist." Is this a translation and if so what is the date?

-Wagner
i see you beat me to that point
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #15
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racist:

1932 as a noun, 1938 as an adjective, from race (n.2); racism is first attested 1936 (from Fr. racisme, 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. But they replaced earlier words, racialism (1907) and racialist (1917), both often used at first in a British or South African context.

Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=racist

No primary sources listed, sadly.
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #16
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Very interesting subject with great facts. This runs along the lines of who invented multiculturalism, same shit same jew bullshit.

kikes = Do as we say, not as we do...
 
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Jews eschew racism so that they can legitimize their alien presence in other societies. Of course, Jews are the most extremely ethnocentric ethnic group ever known to man.

They debase society by reducing cultural values from wholesome ones grown from organic tradition to sterile economic ones as defined by the governing entity. Jews have long dominated both sides - capitalism and communism - both to the detriment of the people involved.

Trotsky's essay is a perfect example of this same debasement.
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #18
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Trotsky using the term "racism" in 1933

http://www.marxists.org/archive/trot...933/330610.htm

In order to raise it above history, the nation is given the support of the race. History is viewed as the emanation of the race. The qualities of the race are construed without relation to changing social conditions. Rejecting “economic thought” as base, National Socialism descends a stage lower: from economic materialism it appeals to zoologic materialism.

The theory of race, specially created, it seems, for some pretentious self-educated individual seeking a universal key to all the secrets of life, appears particularly melancholy in the light of the history of ideas. In order to create the religion of pure German blood, Hitler was obliged to borrow at second hand the ideas of racism from a Frenchman, Count Gobineau [4], a diplomat and a literary dilettante. Hitler found the political methodology ready-made in Italy, where Mussolini had borrowed largely from the Marxist theory of the class struggle. Marxism itself is the fruit of union among German philosophy, French history, and British economics. To investigate retrospectively the genealogy of ideas, even those most reactionary and muddleheaded, is to leave not a trace of racism standing.

The immense poverty of National Socialist philosophy did not, of course, hinder the academic sciences from entering Hitler’s wake with all sails unfurled, once his victory was sufficiently plain. For the majority of the professorial rabble, the years of the Weimar regime were periods of riot and alarm. Historians, economists, jurists, and philosophers were lost in guesswork as to which of the contending criteria of truth was right that is, which of the camps would turn out in the end the master of the situation. The fascist dictatorship eliminates the doubts of the Fausts and the vacillations of the Hamlets of the university rostrums. Coming out of the twilight of parliamentary relativity, knowledge once again enters into the kingdom of absolutes. Einstein has been obliged to pitch his tent outside the boundaries of Germany.

On the plane of politics, racism is a vapid and bombastic variety of chauvinism in alliance with phrenology. As the ruined nobility sought solace in the gentility of its blood, so the pauperized petty bourgeoisie befuddles itself with fairy tales concerning the special superiorities of its race. Worthy of attention is the fact that the leaders of National Socialism are not native Germans but interlopers from Austria, like Hitler himself, from the former Baltic provinces of the Czar’s empire, like Rosenberg; and from colonial countries, like Hess, who is Hitler’s present alternate for the party leadership. [5] A barbarous din of nationalisms on the frontiers of civilization was required in order to instill into its “leaders” those ideas which later found response in the hearts of the most barbarous classes in Germany.

Personality and class – liberalism and Marxism – are evil. The nation – is good. But at the threshold of private property this philosophy is turned inside out. Salvation lies only in personal private property. The idea of national property is the spawn of Bolshevism. Deifying the nation, the petty bourgeois does not want to give it anything. On the contrary, he expects the nation to endow him with property and to safeguard him from the worker and the process-server. Unfortunately, the Third Reich will bestow nothing upon the petty bourgeois except new taxes.

In the sphere of modern economy, international in its ties and anonymous in its methods, the principle of race seems unearthed from a medieval graveyard. The Nazis set out with concessions beforehand; the purity of race, which must be certified in the kingdom of the spirit by a passport must be demonstrated in the sphere of economy chiefly by efficiency. Under contemporary conditions this means competitive capacity. Through the back door, racism returns to economic liberalism, freed from political liberties.
 
Old December 13th, 2007 #19
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Leon Trotsky
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June 1933

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On the plane of politics, racism is a vapid and bombastic variety of chauvinism in alliance with phrenology.
http://www.marxists.org/archive/trot...933/330610.htm
 
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Debate on this in a KT thread. I had always heard Lenin coined it in the 1920s. Reading around, I just came across claim that in fact jew Trotsky coined it.

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At the risk of giving you unnecessary additional ammo for your vendetta against Christianity, I think it is necessary to dispel the erroneous attribution of the term "Racism' to Trotsky, Gramsci, Lenin, or any other 20th century figure.

The earliest usage I can find dates from August, 1872. The Holy and Great pan-Orthodox Synod of the Eastern Orthodox church issued a statement on "The Heresy of Racism," wherein it stated:
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"We renounce, censure and condemn racism, that is racial discrimination, ethnic feuds, hatreds and dissensions within the Church of Christ, as contrary to the teaching of the Gospel and the holy canons of our blessed fathers which support the holy Church and the entire Christian world, embellish it and lead it to divine godliness.”
http://www.incommunion.org/2004/12/1...esy-of-racism/

It took the Roman Catholics another 90 years to catch up, with Vatican II. The poor backward Southern Baptists didn't get fully with the program until their 1995 Convention. But they are all aboard the PC train now.
 
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