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April 12th, 2011 | #1 |
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Seeking systematic analyses of the destructive effects of christ-lunacy from a White racial perspective
Post links to the best analyses you know of. I'd like to get them all in one place. Even if you don't have link but you know a certain book covers it, mention that.
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Religion versus America
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"There was a flaw in the intellectual foundation of America from the start: the attempt to combine the Enlightenment approach in politics with the Judeo-Christian ethics. For a while, the latter element was on the defensive, muted by the eighteenth-century spirit, so that America could gain a foothold, grow to maturity, and become great. But only for a while. Thanks to Immanuel Kant, as I have discussed in my book The Ominous Parallels, the base of religion--faith and self-sacrifice--was re-established at the turn of the nineteenth century. Thereafter, all of modern philosophy embraced collectivism, in the form of socialism, Fascism, Communism, welfare statism. By now, the distinctive ideas at the base of America have been largely forgotten or swept aside. They will not be brought back by an appeal to religion. What then is the solution? It is not atheism as such--and I say this even though as an Objectivist I am an atheist. "Atheism" is a negative; it means not believing in God--which leaves wide open what you do believe in. It is futile to crusade for a negative; the Communists, too, call themselves atheists. Nor is the answer "secular humanism," about which we often hear today. This term is used so loosely that it is practically contentless; it is compatible with a wide range of conflicting viewpoints, including, again, Communism. To combat the doctrines that are destroying our country, out-of-context terms and ideas such as these are useless. What we need is an integrated, consistent philosophy in every branch, and especially in the two most important ones: epistemology and ethics. We need a philosophy of reason and of rational self-interest, a philosophy that would once again release the power of man's mind and the energy inherent in his pursuit of happiness. Nothing less will save America or individual rights. There are many good people in the world who accept religion, and many of them hold some good ideas on social questions. I do not dispute that. But their religion is not the solution to our problem; it is the problem. Do I say that therefore there should now only be "freedom for atheism"? No, I am not Mr. Kemp. Of course, religions must be left free; no philosophic viewpoint, right or wrong, should be interfered with by the state. I do say, however, that it is time for patriots to take a stand--to name publicly what America does depend on, and why that is not Judaism or Christianity. There are men today who advocate freedom and who recognize what ideas lie at its base, but who then counsel "practicality." It is too late, they say, to educate people philosophically; we must appeal to what they already believe; we must pretend to endorse religion on strategic grounds, even if privately we don't. This is a counsel of intellectual dishonesty and of utter impracticality. It is too late indeed, far too late for a strategy of deception which by its nature has to backfire and always has, because it consists of confirming and supporting the very ideas that have to be uprooted and replaced. It is time to tell people the unvarnished truth: to stand up for man's mind and this earth, and against any version of mysticism or religion. It is time to tell people: "You must choose between unreason and America. You cannot have both. Take your pick." If there is to be any chance for the future, this is the only chance there is." Leonard Piekoff (Some have accused Dr. Piekoff, correctly, of being insane. But he is not insane all the time) FWIW http://www.aynrand.org/site/News2?pa...s_iv_ctrl=1225 |
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He's right about atheism at least - christians are always at pains to insist that if you reject their god it implies believing this, that, or horrible other - which in itself is a very characterically jewy way of arguing. It is exactly the same as the jew saying, if you don't believe in race-mixing you're a "hater."
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I believe "Which Way Western Man" has a chapter or two on the author's trip through institutional christianity from the perspective of a man on the path to becoming a priest, if i recall correctly.
Duke's book may also have a section. |
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This site from the New York Public Library, Dorot Jewish Division, which documents Jews in America, also documents Christian involvement with Judaism since it arrived here in America.....not only compromising White racial survival, but twisting Christianity into something never intended. Jewes in America: Conquistadors, Knickerbockers, Pilgrims, and the Hope of Israel |
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I don't know that there are many books like this. That said, it's not really hard to envisage what such arguments might look like. Christianity has been the motivator of both external and internal destructive actions. External examples could be the Spanish conquest of America, where the motivation was to "civilize the savages and bring them to Christendom" thus creating the blight of modern Latin America. Internal examples would be Vatican II or US Prot denominations assisting Third World mass immigration causes or drumming up support for Zionism. This is because Christianity is at its core subversive - the New Testament being replete with nihilistic ideas ranging from gender egalitarianism to judeo-supremacy to humanism.
The most sophisticated critique of Christianity from a white perspective was done by Ludwig Klages but his works have never been translated into English to my knowledge. |
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This is a source that came in today from We Hold These Truths...an anti Zionist Christian source...thought some might find it of interest:
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[Did Christianity engineer a people stupid enough to believe in Christianity?]
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Revilo P. Oliver wrote a few books and many articles with references about christ-lunacy. I have not read all his material as-of-yet, but I know there is a lot of good material there. There was a Roman by the name of Celsus who wrote a book titled "The True Doctrine," which addressed the christ-eaters? These are not scientific works, but they are a start.
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From King James Bible - Galatians 3:28.
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." --- And by extension - "There is neither black nor brown nor yellow nor white: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus." Mike
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Elmer Pendell's 'Why Civilisations Self-Destruct' has implicit reference to it (it is available in reprint). Also Mathilde Ludendorff (last wife of General Erich Ludendorff) wrote pretty extensively on it in her many books: four of which have been translated into English (although these don't include the books that she goes into her in-depth critique of Christianity). See here. There is also a pretty extensive NS literature on the subject, but most of which; outside Anton Holzner, is untranslated from the original German. There are English-language academic summaries of their positions available however if you'd be content with that. Savitri Devi spent a lot of time on it over her various books and Goodrick-Clarke gives a good summary of the whole gamut of racialist critiques of Christianity in his 'Black Sun' and Matthias Gardell also has some reference to it in 'Gods of the Blood'. You could also try Alexander Rudd Mills' 'The Call of our Ancient Nordic Religion' and 'The Odinist Religion' both of which contain critiques of Christianity (both are available in reprint). Quote:
As to Duke (as much as I loathe the man): his (positive) comments as to Christianity (and Islam) are in 'Jewish Supremacism' (don't know about 'My Awakening') pp. 79-95 in both the 1st and 2nd editions. You might find John Allegro's later work to be of interest (e.g. 'The End of a Road' (1970) and 'Physician Heal Thyself...' (1983)) as it directly feeds in to much of Oliver's influential racialist critique of Christianity although Oliver only ever cited 'The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross', 'The Copper Scroll' and 'The Dead Sea Scrolls and the Christian Myth' to my knowledge.
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I think what you describe has been generally written Alex, but not in the specific form in which you conceive it and not in the English language. The closest I can think of would be Johann von Leers' 'Der Kardinal und die Germanen' and 'Odal' (the latter is sometimes in 2 Vols as it is circa 800 pages and is Leers' critique of Christianity, its influence and his alternative based on Listian Germanic paganism).
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If antiquarian critiques of Christianity are in play the Emperor Julian's works on it are invaluable (three volumes in HUP's Loeb Classical Library series [13, 29 & 157]). Quote:
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Hey, Karl, all this stuff is very helpful, I appreciate it. Much of it I have not heard of. It is shameful how much good NS and other German stuff has never been translated. Greg Johnson seems to be the only one doing such at the moment, and a lot of it is not really on point.
The stuff I'm talking about is there, but more in bits and pieces, or as stuff that comes up tangentially to stuff writers are discussing. I would like to see the thing treated squarely, full on. I'm really handicapped by own lack of education in this area. I've never taken a religious course in college, and have only personal experience to rely on. But more and more, I can see that this fucking cult is pretty much the main obstacle our race faces to dealing with the real obstacle - jews. |
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Actually, despite my title, i dont even necessarily mean racial. I mean, a systematic general study of the way christianity distorts the mind.
Isn't it funny, we have entire bookshelves filled with - how you should eat - how you should exercise But really we don't have "here's how to use your brain." Peope tell you WHAT to think, but not how to think. |
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Typically most people like to believe they have supernatural powers - pray for miracles, guardian angel to protect them from harm, that sort of thing.
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Alex, Google scholar may provide some things you'll find interesting as well...here's one search in the general area of what you're looking for..
This one might be better for you though... |
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