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Old 3 Weeks Ago #1
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Default Mussolini‘s goals for World War 2 ?

. . I‘m German . . I know most things spewed out by ‘the estabishment‘ about the Third Reich aren‘t true . .

Hitler wanted to “improve“ the race of the Germans ( as he understood it ) and wanted to break away from NWO-power ( both the capitalistic and the Communistic forces . . ) . .

. . the war was foisted upon him . .

. . I haven‘t looked that much into Mussolini‘s ( Italian fascist ) goals thus far though . . .

. . what were their objectives ? . .

. . how did Mussolini feel about jews . .?

. . was he an Italian chauvinist ?

. . did they really want to re-install the Roman Empire ( Italy previously had lost all its colonial possessions in World War 1 ( as had practically all European powers . . ) ) as it‘s often claimed . .?

A ‘Mare Nostro‘ around the Mediterranean . .?

. . or even power in Europe . . ?

. . what is true is that Italian fascism clothed itself in the symbolism of the Roman Empire ( the Nazis also drew hard on that . .) . .

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So . .?

Mussolini was anti-Bolshevik as were most European patriots at that time but what were his ultimate objectives before and during World War 2 . . ?

. . maybe help ‘against the jews‘ . . ?

. . conquer the Mediterranean region . .?

. .even power ‘in Europe‘ . .?




. . what do you know . .?
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Old 2 Weeks Ago #2
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Mussolini's views on jews are usually skewed to fit the jewish narrative.

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In 1929, Mussolini noted that Italian Jews had been a demographically small yet culturally integral part of Italian society since Ancient Rome. His views on Italian Jews were consistent with his early Mediterraneanist viewpoint, which suggested that all Mediterranean cultures, including the Jewish culture, shared a common bond. He further argued that Italian Jews had truly become "Italians" or natives to Italy after such a long period on the peninsula.[4][5] However, Mussolini's views on race were often contradictory and quick to change when necessary, and as Fascist Italy became increasingly subordinate to Nazi Germany's interests, Mussolini began adopting openly racial theories borrowed from or based on Nazi Germany's racial policies, leading to the introduction of the anti-Semitic racial laws.[5] Historian Federico Chabod argued that the introduction of the Nordicist-influenced racial laws was a large factor in the decrease of public support among Italians for Fascist Italy, and many Italians viewed the racial laws as an obvious imposition or intrusion of Nazi German values into Italian cultures and a sign that Mussolini and Fascist Italy's power was collapsing under Nazi German influence.[4][6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_racial_laws

I get mad as HELL when the eevviill naazzzeeez are to blame for just about everything eevviill!!!!!!!!! I, myself, have German ancestry and I'm damn PROUD OF IT!!!!! One certainly cannot pick one's ancestry, I just feel like I lucked out, with German blood in my veins!!!!! German/Irish/Scottish. And damn glad for all three!!!!!!
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. . how did Mussolini feel about jews . .?

. . was he an Italian chauvinist ?
Here's the uncomfortable truth:

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A lot of American White Nationalists seem to admire Mussolini, but the sad truth is that Mussolini was anti-white and had a sick love for jews. He was a primitive Italian chauvinist who had much more respect for Italian-speaking jews who were born and raised in Italy than he had for white people from other European countries, and his regime enslaved and murdered large amounts of non-Italian Europeans and imported non-white, semiticized and/or negritized South Italians into white areas that were under Italian Fascist occupation.

Mussolini would eventually enact the so-called "Italian Racial Laws" (Leggi razziali) which excluded jews from public office and higher education, but that was only because Mussolini's alliance with the infinitely more intelligent and honorable Adolf Hitler demanded it, and he only allied himself with Hitler for opportunistic reasons (he thought that Germany was going to win the war and wanted to be on the winning side).

You can read about Mussolini's sick and bizarre love for the jews in the following article from The Jewish Chronicle:


https://www.thejc.com/news/world/whe...manel-1.451099

And from Wikipedia:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Racial_Laws

It is because of this foolish attitude that Italy has so many problems with third-world immigration today.
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Igor Alexander has started a pretty interesting thread about the relationship between jews and Italians:

Jews and Italians -- what's the nature of their relationship?

https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=113454
 
Old 2 Weeks Ago #4
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@ Stewie

. . concerning what you wrote . .

. . I'm going to go into the lion's den and say jews probably had always had an 'important' role in Italy . . . Starting from the times of the Roman Empire to especially medieval Italy . . The forthcoming economic model in medieval Europe based on money had one of its cores in Northern Italy , where all the important banks were . . . A non-jewish family which was quite successful in this area were the De Medicis ( which actually set a lot of Popes ) ; in Germany we had for example the Fuggers in Augsburg . . .

Actually the fact that Northern Italy in ancient times was the centre of Europe's money-business can still be seen by the fact that all 'insider-expressions' concerning Western money-business originate in Italian ( like 'giro' , 'brutto' , 'netto' . .)

Concerning the 'Italian chauvinist'-theory about Mussolini . . Italian fascism ( a 'fasces' in old Rome was an instrument to spread discipline . .) was a reaction to the Communist / Bolshevik upheaval in Italy at that time ( which actually spread through a lot of European countries ) . . Italy I think certainly wanted to re-take colonies . . .
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I notice this is the second or third time you made a thread on il duce and he is a in depth character that is much harder to get at then hitler since the Italian translations of many things were lost or have not been translated yet. Don't forget Mussolini had important documents showing the lead up and course of the war that he said was his "insurance" policy. If you want to talk more about the italian ceaser shoot me a pm coldfire we could talk further on it.
 
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. . again , how I view Italian fascism as such . .

. . after WW1 the NWO was busy instigating Communism , especially in Europe. .

. . almost every European country experienced Communist upheavals . .

Italy was the first country to show a strong reaction towards that . .

Mussolini and his followers knew about the plot of the NWO ( Communism is their invention ), so they looked for an alternative . .

They were no fans of Capitalism either , so they , similar to the One-Party-state of the Soviet Union came up with a system of party-rule based on 'conservatism' , i. e. Church etc . .

A 'conservative' version of the Soviet Union , Italian style . .

Freemasonry was forbidden as well . .

. .in that way , they were dissidents . .

. . it is still disputed though what exactly Mussolini wanted ( especially during WW2 ) ( and I wouldn't trust the history-books ) . .

He invented a system based on 'Roman power' . . I've also already said that Italy had lost all its colonial possessions during WW1 ( as had most European powers ) . .
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. . a little look back on history . .

. . Hitler , Mussolini , Franco were the great dissidents of World War 2 . .

. . they knew what the NWO was up to . .

In the 19th century the NWO was busy winning influence worldwide , under the guise of 'European colonialism' . . They truly controlled the money which made European nations flow . . .

They came up with Marxism to build their One-World-state . . . https://vnnforum.com/showthread.php?t=551736

. . when their 'world revolution' failed they instigated events like the First World War instead . . . they installed the 'federal reserve system' of money-control . .

AND European powers lost many of their colonial possessions . . The 'age of imperialism' was over . .

After the war , they began instigating Communism again in the European world . . There were even street-fights between Marxists and opposing forces . .

Italy countered . .

They knew that Capitalism was part of the NWO's plot as well . . So they invented their own authoritarian state . . Based on tradition ( Roman salute ; Curch etc . . ) . .

. . one shouldn't take the history books for credit though as for what exactly they wanted . .

Italy 'laid down' after World War 1 and it even looked like they there might come to pass a Bolshevik revolution , as in Russia . .The Communists were very strong in Italy . .

The model of 'fascism' ( like I said . . 'fasces' = instrument to spread discipline in old Rome = authoritarian state . . yet , in service of the people . . ) was also an inspiration to the National Socialists of Germany and some of their rituals they even took over , the Roman salute , the Roman flags which said 'S.P.Q.R.' in ancient times , all in 'German style' . . .

So one can say . . The European dissident / patriotic movements of the 30s were bent on tradition . . Tradition as opposed to the NWO's Bolshevism which sought to destroy cultures / nations . .

Yet what the objectives were nobody can say for sure a 100 per cent today ( and like I said , one shouldn't trust the NWO inspired history-books on that ) . .

Hitler certainly was pro-German , Mussolini was anti-Communist , Franco was a disdident . .

. . yet , what exactly did they want ?
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. . what is also worth putting into question is . . What might have happened had the NWO succeeded with their Communist agenda in Europe . . ?

. . had they gotten Italy , Germany , Spain . . ?

Had they gotten Italy , one of the outcomes might have been that they had gotten their hands on Rome ( the centre of traditional European Catholicism . .) . . The Bolsheviks were anti-religion . . So . . they would already have had a centre of the Church.

Spain even fell to the level of civil-war over the Communist question . . Had they gotten Spain . . - -> = an outpost in Westen Europe . .

. . Germany was their number one hate-object anyway . . They already blamed Germany for World War 1 in their propaganda to take the heat off themselves . .

One should thank the European dissidents . .

Eastern Europe fell to the Bolsheviks after the war , yet European dissidents ŕ la Hitler , Mussolini and Franco certainly gave resistance . .
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