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Old June 3rd, 2005 #21
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TAA3, sports bit: Barry Bonds, anti-White racist

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Old June 3rd, 2005 #22
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facts re blacks, good for stats pickups for TAA..

It seems Blacks are more prone to commit murder and other violent
crimes (including rape) than Whites...

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/htiuscdb.txt

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/ageracesex.htm

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/d_oars.htm

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/d_orace.htm


Also it seems Blacks commit the majority of interracial crime

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/d_ovrelrace.htm

http://www.amren.com/color.pdf


In addition, Blacks are most likely to commit infanticide (baby killing)
too...

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicid...en.htm#kidsrts

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicid...dsratestab.htm

They are also most likely to spend some time in the pokey than anyone
else...

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/jailrair.htm


What does race have to do with criminal justice?

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/race.htm

What does race have to do with sexual health?

http://www.cdc.gov/nchstp/dstd/Stats...Minorities.htm

What does race have to do with education?

http://www.collegeboard.com/sat/cbse...1/pdf/NATL.pdf


What does race have to do with public assistance?

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/opre...0/analysis.htm

What does race have to do with illegitimate children?

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/pdf/nvs48_3t19.pdf


By the way, negroes are disproportionately responsible for crime and violence in England and Canada, too.
 
Old June 7th, 2005 #23
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Reaction from Tampa:

http://pasco.tbo.com/pasco/MGBQOQDD69E.html

Out Of Gutter, Onto Driveway: Hate, Protected

TOM JACKSON
Published: May 26, 2005

Tuesday, residents of The Grasslands awoke to an unpleasantry previously unknown in that Meadow Pointe village: the First Amendment, taken slumming. Scattered on about 300 front yards and protected by the nation's foremost civil right were copies of the second issue of The Aryan Alternative, 16 tabloid pages of opportunistic hate ensnared in a rubber band.

Among the topics discussed in the odious little cat-box liner: tortured tales of interracial criminal activity - exclusively black on white, although the author chose more provocative terms; America's ``Jewish problem''; the force- feeding of homosexuality to hetero-America through popular media; and the importance of sustaining pure racial lines.

Starting from a place in the gutter, the commentators go quickly, relentlessly and irretrievably subterranean, applying vulgar language to putrid sewer thought.

Given the publication's vile content, it is not overboard to suggest that the equivalent of newsprint excrement had been deposited on each front yard - invective wrapped in insult shrouded in obscenity. Stepped on, the victim would more likely torch his shoes than attempt to scrape them clean.

Playing Their Game

Almost as worrisome as the content is that some knucklehead - Internet code name: Brutus - was willing to spend $48 for the 300 newspapers (they're $16 per 100, according to the Vanguard News Network Web forum page), then invest the time required to prepare and distribute them.

But, then, the dutiful carrier was performing only as recommended on another white supremacist Web site. And we here in this corner of the mainstream media have responded in the way these baiters of race would prefer:

Hawking the Alternative was this posting to nazi.org's nationalist forum: ``Roll them up with a rubber band, toss them onto lawns and driveways at midnight, and watch the local TV reports flicker the next day! Immediate societal reactionary feedback!''

Alas, for these spreaders of intolerance, the only bad publicity is no publicity. Arguably, then, the wiser decision may have been to ignore this insurgency in hopes that it would go away.

Except that there is this: Cancer begins with a single malignant cell, and the sooner it is identified, the sooner it can be isolated and excised, and the patient returned to health. Similarly, pockets of hate deserve exposure, if not for eradication - this is America; in and of themselves, thoughts and attitudes are not crimes - then for illumination.

No Guarantees Against Insults

Which is why the subplot of the sordid story - at least one resident and Meadow Pointe clubhouse manager Keith Fisk spent part of Tuesday removing the circular from neighbors' yards - qualifies as distressing.

As repugnant as are the ideas and language contained within The Aryan Alternative, the Pasco sheriff's office rightly concedes that the publication and distribution of, essentially, a political document is protected by the First Amendment.

The well-meaning collection by Fisk and the unidentified resident represent unwise tampering - not least of all because, by limiting exposure in Meadow Pointe, they also limited the potential for widespread revulsion, which would have been the best response to this crude and witless insult to the American tradition of free speech.

Columnist Tom Jackson can be reached at (813) 948-4219.
 
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http://tampatrib.com/pasconews/MGBS06JX49E.html

Racist Circular Shows Up In Yards

By KEVIN WIATROWSKI [email protected]

Published: May 25, 2005

WESLEY CHAPEL - Some residents of Meadow Pointe found a racist publication on their lawns Tuesday afternoon.

``The Aryan Alternative,'' is a 16-page publication of the Vanguard News Network based in Kirksville, Mo.

The paper denigrates blacks, Jews, gays and Hispanics and praises Matt Hale, the jailed leader of the World Church of the Creator, a white supremacist group based in Illinois.

A similar publication turned up on lawns in West Palm Beach in March and in Spring Hill in September, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The mailing was part of 9,000 circulars distributed nationwide, said Joe Roy, chief investigator with the law center, an Alabama-based civil rights group that monitors hate-group activities.

On Vanguard News Network's Web site forum, a posting from someone named ``Brutus'' claimed that he and his wife distributed 300 circulars in neighborhoods north of Tampa.

``There are literally 10s of thousands more homes in these subdivisions,'' Brutus said in his post. ``We are just scratching the surface.''

According to his posting, Brutus is a small-business owner in Naples and a ``senior member'' of Vanguard News Network. He has posted to network's online forum nearly 1,300 times.

``The wife and I will keep hammering them as long as you can keep us supplied,'' Brutus said in his post.

Meadow Pointe clubhouse manager Keith Fisk said the distribution was confined mostly to The Grasslands.

Responding to calls from residents, Fisk spent Tuesday afternoon collecting the publications.

He said he collected about 50. He intended to turn them over to the Pasco County Sheriff's Office.

``This is the first time this has happened here,'' Fisk said.

He estimated the circulars were delivered late Monday night or early Tuesday morning before residents began their day.

Sheriff's office spokesman Doug Tobin said that despite the nature of the newspaper, the First Amendment limits what law enforcement can do.

``If in the pamphlet they're threatening people or encouraging people to do something illegal, that's something we would look into,'' Tobin said.

He said he would pass the information to the sheriff's office's intelligence unit.

It's likely the distributors are trying to attract new members and not targeting specific residents of the neighborhood, Tobin said.

``It's a quick and dirty way to get their message out,'' said Roy, chief investigator with the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Reporter Kevin Wiatrowski can be reached at (813) 948-4201.
 
Old June 7th, 2005 #25
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April 22, 2005, Friday afternoon a publication called "The Aryan Alternative" was distributed in a Tempe neighborhood. All of the copies were collected and brought to the Tempe Police department where they were impounded.

That such a perverse expression of hate and racism could be spewed on the eve of passover is a symptom of the radical and extreme rightwing agenda of those in control of our government. The hatemongering of the irresponsible rightwing has made conditions ripe for these hate groups to spread their message and recruit new members.

Enough. Time to take our country back! It is time for equality and protection to be the watchwords of our nation's leaders.
 
Old June 7th, 2005 #26
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Comments following above story, available at link:


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WHY IS IT THAT ARIZONA SIMPLY CONDONES THE
ILLEGALS COMING IN FROM THE SOUTH?????????


GOD BLESS THE MINUTEMEN.
05-6-2005 | Unregistered Commenter

HATE ARIZONA

I think it's admirable that some folks are still trying to hand out political handbills and thus exercising their free speech rights.

Am I reading this right, that some dogooder committed theft and collected these handbills from other persons' properties? The police should have arrested the doogooder!

05-12-2005 | Unregistered CommenterWyatt Mann
The two previous comments demonstrate how important it is that the democrats get a cohesive message across to the people, that affirms their freedom, rights and dignity.

The leader of the Minutemen was a member of a white supremicist group, and has since removed himself from the border, presumably to lobby for more border patrol on the border in D.C., where he will be told that a certain number of illegals crossing the border is in America's best interest. If the U.S. did not have the illegals to exploit, they would have to exploit American children and poor Americans, (far too often they are in the same demographic category.)

Wyatt Mann thinks it is honorable that people are putting out political handbills. Since the handbills were not ordered and were on people's driveways, there was no theft, but if theft would have been necessary it would have been honorable to do so.

These were not simply political handbills. They fell well within the definition of hate speech. It advocated racist dogma aimed at the Jewish community. While the distributors of the rag in question had the right to distribute, the "dogooder" had the right to remove the trash.

Just as there is no right to "yell "fire" in a crowded theater there is no right that permits the distribution of hate speech. The society has a compelling reason to stop hate speech because of the damage it does, not just to the whack jobs, but to reasonable people as well.

I wonder if Wyatt had anything to do with the distribution of the hate material?

05-12-2005 | Unregistered Commentergc_wall
Maybe we should call them a doo-doo gooder, since they are out scooping poop! I know I don't want that crap in my driveway. Thank you to the person who gathered up the rags.
 
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Here's the pic.
 
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Rounder, did you ever receive the report from the Tempe police?
 
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BTW, does anybody have any background on SPLCs' Joe Roy?
 
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Sounds great again. But how about larger print this time?
 
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April 22, 2005, Friday afternoon a publication called "The Aryan Alternative" was distributed in a Tempe neighborhood. All of the copies were collected and brought to the Tempe Police department where they were impounded
I must admit the above quote fucking cracked me up......Impound them I say - Impound them
 
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I've decided, after thinking about it carefully, that you are making a mistake using the words "nigger" and "kike" in the tabloid -- and any other taboo words.

Reason: You give our enemies amunition to discredit and marginalize not only VNN but all White Nationalists. The taboo words decrease the number of potential WN's who will be reachable by VNN or other organizations. This is too great a price to pay for the satisfaction of throwing their taboo words into our enemies' faces.

Everything we do must be tested against the touchstone of whether it will aid or hinder our ability to awaken our people.
 
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...that you are making a mistake using the words "nigger" and "kike" in the tabloid -- and any other taboo words....
I totally agree.
Such language comes across as low-brow. Using such words and phrases turns off the very people you are trying to reach.
I would try using the "civil" approach, as in the Civil Forum here
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I've decided, after thinking about it carefully, that you are making a mistake using the words "nigger" and "kike" in the tabloid -- and any other taboo words.

Reason: You give our enemies amunition to discredit and marginalize not only VNN but all White Nationalists. The taboo words decrease the number of potential WN's who will be reachable by VNN or other organizations. This is too great a price to pay for the satisfaction of throwing their taboo words into our enemies' faces.

Everything we do must be tested against the touchstone of whether it will aid or hinder our ability to awaken our people.



Perhaps do a "clean" TAA issue and compare the response rate?
 
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Perhaps do a "clean" TAA issue and compare the response rate?
I don't think we're yet at the point where we can do a useful "response rate." But I think there will be an immmediate increase in "conveyance rate." I've had an envelope sitting on my desk addressed to Glenn Miller with cash in it for a batch of AA's -- but I can't get myself to mail it because I can't see myself handing the AA's out. (I may send the money anyway without ordering the tabloid -- to be supportive.)

But civilize the language in the AA and I wouldn't have this visceral reluctance.
 
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I totally agree.
Such language comes across as low-brow. Using such words and phrases turns off the very people you are trying to reach.
I would try using the "civil" approach, as in the Civil Forum here
Yes. And it has a larger downside. It gives credence to the inevitable jew "news" reports on the deliveries. Our people have been carefully programmed to equate "white racists" with drooling, violent, foul-languaged, idiots. Using "nigger" and "kike" and other taboo language in the AA confirms this image and makes most people want to distance themselves from us, rather than join our ranks.

It's a huge mistake.
 
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I think you mistakenly assume there is a vast ocean of folks who are almost there, and just need a gentle nudge. Better to use the condemned words to show any that have feelings like ours, that there are brave men who share their views. Do you want those who fear words?
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I don't think we're yet at the point where we can do a useful "response rate." But I think there will be an immmediate increase in "conveyance rate." I've had an envelope sitting on my desk addressed to Glenn Miller with cash in it for a batch of AA's -- but I can't get myself to mail it because I can't see myself handing the AA's out. (I may send the money anyway without ordering the tabloid -- to be supportive.)

But civilize the language in the AA and I wouldn't have this visceral reluctance.
I agree 100%. The jew fears the racialist who communicates his message in a calm, reasonable, logical manner, without costumes, slurs or epithets. Racialists must be salesmen and we must make our potential customers feel comfortable with us and with our message. If our message is that blacks are dangerous and savage and jews are scheming and sinister, then let us provide documentation and evidence, of which there is no shortage. Shouting nigger nigger nigger kike kike will not convince the reader of anything except that we are unhinged and potential dangerous ourselves. Add a shaved head, a Nazi flag and a pseudo-military costume to the mix and what you get is what we see today - a movement of a few hundred angry powerless young men.
 
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I agree 100%. The jew fears the racialist who communicates his message in a calm, reasonable, logical manner, without costumes, slurs or epithets. Racialists must be salesmen and we must make our potential customers feel comfortable with us and with our message. If our message is that blacks are dangerous and savage and jews are scheming and sinister, then let us provide documentation and evidence, of which there is no shortage. Shouting nigger nigger nigger kike kike will not convince the reader of anything except that we are unhinged and potential dangerous ourselves. Add a shaved head, a Nazi flag and a pseudo-military costume to the mix and what you get is what we see today - a movement of a few hundred angry powerless young men.
This assessment is correct,not "Populist".Accepting xtians is to a degree,"Populist(I'm no christian).Seeing the forest thru the trees is what we as a "movement" need to harness,while simultaneously NOT splintering with the youth of our Cause.It'll be very tough to try and harness the energy of youth WN groups,while still maintaining an accessable image to the lemmings.
 
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