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Old March 18th, 2011 #21
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There's no oil there.
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TUNIS, March 17 | Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:11pm EDT

TUNIS, March 17 (Reuters) - Italy is ready to make its military bases available to enforce a U.N. Security Counci resolution imposing a no-fly zone on Libya, an Italian government source told Reuters on Thursday.

The airbase at Sigonella in Sicily, which provides logistical support for the United States Sixth Fleet, is one of the closest NATO bases to Libya and could be used in any military operation.

"It's a positive development," an Italian goverrnment source told Reuters minutes after the U.N. Security Council voted in favour of the no-fly zone.

Asked whether Italy would offer its bases for the enforcement of the U.N. resolution, the source said: "Yes, we've said we are ready to do that."

(Reporting by Silvia Aloisi; Editing by Elizabeth Fullerton)
Italy's harboring a significant number of dune coons within its borders. They should be very circumspect about attacking a north African country until they fix the immigrant problem. But then again, the Leftists in their Parliament will blame Berlusconi anyway if the wheels fall off.
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The "West" just can't stop itself from interfering in the business of these countries, me, I couldn't give a fuck what happens in Libya between the Libyans. What bothers me is the people calling for the removal of Gaddafi are the same people who made millions from him the last few years as Libya was trying to change its image after years of being a so called rogue state. With friends like that who needs enemies? If Gaddafi didn't give up his nuclear program he wouldn't be having these problems. Throughout my entire life Gaddafi was Libya, now the country will be ruled by some dime a dozen shabbos goy. It's the end of an era, and not a good end.
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. What bothers me is the people calling for the removal of Gaddafi are the same people who made millions from him the last few years as Libya was trying to change its image after years of being a so called rogue state.
The question has to be asked..Why now? The NWO could have taken him out during the 80`s, the American govt bombed his house at one stage and now the NWO is supply weapons to the rebels. Now that it looks like Gaddifi may hold onto power and beat the rabels I think we will see an invasion to"help the rebels". The locals there will find that they have swapped one meglamaniac ruler for a NWO backed govt that will steal from them and leave them worse off than Gaddifi.
 
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The question has to be asked..Why now? The NWO could have taken him out during the 80`s, the American govt bombed his house at one stage and now the NWO is supply weapons to the rebels. Now that it looks like Gaddifi may hold onto power and beat the rabels I think we will see an invasion to"help the rebels". The locals there will find that they have swapped one meglamaniac ruler for a NWO backed govt that will steal from them and leave them worse off than Gaddifi.
Egypt Arming Libyan Rebels
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After the corporate owned media's failed attempt in February 2011 to portray the Libyan unrest as "unarmed protesters" being brutalized by Qaddafi, reports began trickling in of what was actually a full-scale rebellion with weapons coming across the border from Egypt. These reports are now confirmed, as large scale operations to supply the rebels with weapons have now been admitted by both the US and Egyptian governments.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...835270906.html


If all goes well for the globalists, this servile proxy Arab conglomerate, after being marshaled to raid Libya on behalf of the West, will then be organized and ready to turn its attention east toward Iran at the behest of their globalist masters. The WSJ in their article recognized this new servile fervor as an "unusually robust diplomatic response from Arab states."
 
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The question has to be asked..Why now? The NWO could have taken him out during the 80`s, the American govt bombed his house at one stage and now the NWO is supply weapons to the rebels. Now that it looks like Gaddifi may hold onto power and beat the rabels I think we will see an invasion to"help the rebels". The locals there will find that they have swapped one meglamaniac ruler for a NWO backed govt that will steal from them and leave them worse off than Gaddifi.
When this conflict started the head of Libya's largest tribe said he will shut off oil going to Europe if the Europeans don't help the "rebels." There have already been British and Dutch soldiers captured in Libya, they said they were there to help get their citizens out, and have already been released. I don't believe that for a second though, because non Libyans have been free to leave Libya, no one was being held hostage. The scariest part about this whole deal is some Jew in Paris, a nigger in DC, and a faggot in London get to decide who rules Libya, and not the Libyans. Gaddafi might not be loved by all in Libya, but is obvious he has a good number of supporters. The situation in Libya should be settled by the Libyans.
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The NWO has manipulated events and public opinion for decades.They had hoped that the public would again believe what the media tells them so that they can steal the oil in Libya without anyone protesting. The have allowed Gaddafi to destroy most of the rebels as they are scared that those same rebels might turn on them at a later stage. The NWO had hoped that the rebels would easily win and hand them control of Libya without a fight.
 
Old March 19th, 2011 #28
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Blundering into Libya


by Nebojsa Malic, March 19, 2011

In the "sandstorm" of revolts spreading through the Arab world that began in January with the ouster of Tunisia’s "president" Ben Ali, the revolt in Libya has been the stark anomaly. While there were clashes of police and the military with protesters in Tunisia, Egypt, Bahrain, and Yemen — with loss of life — the Libyan protests quickly devolved into open warfare. Unlike the other governments shaken by revolts, the regime of Colonel Gadhafi has not been anyone’s client. Last, but not least importantly, the conflict in Libya appears to have a regional and tribal background — but then, so does Bahrain. Yet the Empire’s reactions to events in Libya and that tiny Gulf kingdom could not have been more different.

Strange Bedfellows

Media coverage from Libya has been confusing at best, and often contradictory. Air attacks that never happened, heavy fighting that was nothing of the sort, rebel advances that ended up being retreats without a shot fired — all in all there has been very little "news" from the shores of Tripoli, and a whole lot of propaganda. Also suspicious is the fact that, alone in all of North Africa and Arabia, the Libyan rebels have clamored for foreign help from the start.

For his part, Colonel Gadhafi has maintained that the rebellion was actually orchestrated from the West, and that he was fighting both the Empire and al-Qaeda.

A hint of confirmation could be found in a fawning portrait of rebel fighters in the March 13 Washington Post. One exemplary rebel interviewed by reporter Laila Fadel turns out to be a veteran of the Iraqi insurgency. One of his brothers blew himself up to kill U.S. Marines. Another is an al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan. But "Abu Sultan" says he disapproves of his brother’s al-Qaeda ways, wants a "civilian government with justice, freedom, and a constitution," and though he considers this "a Libyan fight" would very much like a no-fly zone and foreign intervention. Make of that what you will.

Going After Gadhafi

At first, the debate over Libya in Washington sounded like a time-tunnel trip to 1990s Bosnia, where the White House got involved through gradual escalation so as to overcome objections by the Congress and the reluctant public. As the tides of war turned and the anti-Gadhafi rebels began to retreat, the tone had changed to resemble the run-up to the 1999 Kosovo war. Writing in Counterpunch on March 8, Diana Johnstone noted some disturbing parallels in how the Empire got involved in both conflicts, and on what grounds.

This time, however, it was difficult to tell almost to the last moment which way the scales would tip. Maureen Dowd of the New York Times urged against intervention, quoting reformed Bosnia interventionist David Rieff — who, in turn, quoted John Quincy Adams on the wisdom of not meddling around the world. Her colleague Roger Cohen argued for it, predictably invoking Bosnia, but wanted the Empire to "go in ruthlessly."

In the Washington Post, none other than Gen. Wesley Clarke, who commanded NATO forces in the 1999 attack on Yugoslavia, argued against going into Libya. Kosovo was different, Clarke claimed, because NATO had UN authorization. This prompted David Bosco of Foreign Policy to bristle at Clarke’s "rewriting [of] history" thus: "…the United States at this moment has as much legal authority to intervene in Libya as NATO did in Kosovo, which is to say not much."

On Thursday, March 17, that authorization was given. The UN Security Council authorized the establishment of a no-fly zone over Libya and approved "all necessary means" to protect civilians from violence. How bombing Libyans will make them safer is anybody’s guess.

Without Remorse

A day or so later, the resolution might have been unnecessary; the rebels were mostly routed and government troops were preparing to enter the rebel stronghold of Benghazi and end the war. Upon the news of the UN decision, Gadhafi vowed to show the rebels "no mercy" and said his government would retaliate by attacking Western civilian targets.

Between all the non-news about Libya and the shocking images of devastation wrought by the earthquake and the tsunami in Japan, the tiny Gulf kingdom of Bahrain has received very little media attention. It is the events in Bahrain, however, driving up the global oil prices and possibly portending a wider conflict in the Gulf.

Bahrain is an island kingdom ruled by a Sunni Arab dynasty with connections to the Saudi royals, itself connected to Saudi Arabia by a causeway. The majority of Bahrainis, however, are Shia Muslims. For a month now, the people have been demonstrating against the government in Manama, only to be clubbed, gassed, and shot. All assembly has now been banned, and Saudi troops have entered Bahrain to help the royal family suppress the protests. Even as Washington called on the government to negotiate with the protesters, all the protest leaders were under arrest.

How come there are no calls for an intervention in Bahrain? Well, for one, it is a major base for the U.S. 5th Fleet. Sunni Arab rulers of Arabia and the Gulf states have been the principal U.S. allies for decades. So, while the Shia majority in Bahrain is crushed so as not to give their brethren in Saudi Arabia any ideas, Washington turns the other way.

This may well provoke Iran, which sees itself as a protector of Shia interests in the region. Strangely, Washington doesn’t seem to care. Unless a war with Iran is what the Empire really wants…

License to Meddle

In 1999, NATO governments came up with a doctrine of "humanitarian" warfare called the "responsibility to protect." In theory, this meant that any time a government used force against its own people, it forfeited sovereignty and other governments had the right to intervene. In practice, it was an open-ended license to meddle anywhere, anytime, the old Communist "Brezhnev doctrine" writ large.

The "R2P" was a fig leaf intended to hide the evil that was the attack on Yugoslavia and the subsequent occupation of its province of Kosovo. In 2004, in the presence of some 40,000 NATO peacekeepers, ethnic Albanian mobs rampaged across the province for four days, targeting the remaining Serbs and torching their villages and churches. The Empire’s response to the pogrom was to reward the Albanians with independence. So much for humanitarian morality, then and now.

Whether it remains confined to air strikes — and it will not — or escalates into something no one can predict at the moment, the impending intervention in Libya is a stupid, unnecessary war of choice. There are many good reasons against it, ranging for "we have no right" to "we are broke." But remember, this is the view from the "reality-based community," to which the Imperial policymakers are entirely immune. To them, this looks like a perfect short victorious war, something to boost Empire’s flagging reputation and influence. In actuality, it is the foreign policy equivalent of the Fukushima meltdown.
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http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24393

NATO Data Confirms the Magnitude and Destructive Nature of the Libya Military Operation
2771 sorties since March 31st

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NATO data confirms the magnitude and destructive nature of the Libya military operation.

"Since the beginning of the NATO operation (31 March 2011, 08.00GMT) a total of 2,771 sorties and 1,110 strike sorties have been conducted.

"A total of 18 ships under NATO command are actively patrolling the Central Mediterranean. 22 Vessels were hailed on 17 April to determine destination and cargo. 1 boarding was conducted (no diversion).

A total of 384 vessels have been hailed, 10 boardings and 3 diversions have been conducted since the beginning of arms embargo operations."

http://www.nato.int/nato_static/asse...oup-update.pdf

The above number of sorties includes only those tabulated since NATO took command of Operation Odyssey Dawn. It does not include the sorties between March 19 and March 30

The coalition is currently running more than a hundred sorties a day.

We are dealing with a formidable military force, a deployment of naval power and air force bombers directed against a country of less than 7 million people, less than the population of Switzerland.

Let us be under no illusions. There is evidence of mass civilian casualties. These are war crimes (using advanced weapons systems) directed against a defenseless population .

These are some of the high tech "humanitarian bombers and fighters" deployed by the US Air Force and the Marine Corps, not to mention those of France (Mirage 2000), UK, Italy, Canada, Belgium, Qatar, UAE, Denmark, Norway, et al...



Solely in the US arsenal

Three B-2 Spirit stealth bombers operating from Whiteman AFB. [see video below, a deadly aircraft capable of launching 16 bunker buster bombs (with conventional or nuclear warheads) in a single sortie]
Two B-1B bombers
Ten F-15E Strike Eagle strike fighters operating out of RAF Lakenheath
Eight F-16C Fighting Falcon multi-role fighters from Spangdahlem Air Base started leaving for Aviano on 20 March
Two HH-60 Pave Hawk combat search and rescue helicopters from RAF Lakenheath operating from USS Ponce (LPD-15).
Three E-3 Sentry airborne warning and control system (AWACS)
Three E-8C battle management/command and control aircraft
One EC-130H electronic warfare (communications jamming) aircraft
One EC-130J psychological operations aircraft
One RC-135V/W Rivet Joint signals intelligence aircraft
Two AC-130U gunships[49]
Four KC-10A Extender Aerial Refueling Tanker/Airlift Aircraft
Six A-10 Thunderbolt ground-attack aircraft[40][49]
Global Hawk unmanned aerial surveillance vehicle
Lockheed U-2 Reconnaissance aircraft

Four AV-8B Harrier II ground attack fighters from the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit, operating off of USS Kearsarge
Two MV-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft from the 26th MEU participated in the pilot rescue.
Two CH-53E Super Stallions from the 26th MEU participated in the pilot rescue.
One KC-130J Hercules from the 26th MEU participated in the pilot rescue.

This war has been on the NATO drawing board for several years.

Next stop Syria.
 
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http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1226041902578 The media is now claiming that the "rebels" are asking for western intervention. This came just after the media spoke of 10,000 so far. How long before we are being shown photos of "mass graves" The NWO has lied about everything regarding the situation in Libya
 
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US Using Armed Drones in Libya

The Predator remotely piloted aircraft, outfitted with Hellfire missiles, has been used with effectiveness against pinpoint targets in urban and rural areas in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq and Yemen and is a signature weapon of the American military.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/22/wo...2military.html
 
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WASHINGTON — US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday called for patience in judging the NATO campaign in Libya, comparing it to the 1999 Kosovo intervention that ended up ousting Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic.

"We've been at this a relatively short period of time," Clinton said. "I would remind you that the United States and other partners bombed targets in Serbia for 78 days."

In 1999, a NATO operation was launched to push forces loyal to the former Yugoslav president out of the province of Kosovo, where they led a campaign against separatist Kosovar Albanians.

Clinton said the campaign was a success in protecting Kosovars, but Milosevic remained in power.

"But," Clinton said, "there had been a dynamic put into motion that eventually led to his being in The Hague," before an international criminal court.

Milosevic was accused of crimes against humanity. He died before completion of his trial.

On Libya, Clinton said strikes on the city of Misrata represent an "inhumanity" by forces loyal to leader Moamer Kadhafi. Regime forces, she said, are "engaged in activities that are deplorable and which target directly civilians."

"But the opposition fighters are holding their own against that onslaught," she added, attributing that in part to the NATO action.

Clinton added that, "There are even reports that Kadhafi's forces may have used cluster bombs against their own people."

Human Rights Watch on April 15 condemned what it said was the use of cluster bombs the night before by Kadhafi forces on residential areas of Misrata.

Also Thursday, Clinton and Uri Rosenthal, the Dutch minister of foreign affairs, discussed "ways to put more of a financial pressure on Kadhafi's regime," State Department spokesman Mark Toner said.

Most governments have frozen bank accounts held by Kadhafi and his family.
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American senator John McCain is visiting the rebel held city of Benghazi.http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1226043460070
 
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American senator John McCain is visiting the rebel held city of Benghazi.http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news...-1226043460070
It could in the ZOG's best interests to prolong the Libyan incursion fpr as long as practicable, and it'll be no surprise if Libya is broken up , divided in two ,freeing Libya from the Libyans.
 
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If true, I guess the magic jew has spoken and the establishment will get in line. A lot of DCtards fawn over every word out of the old kike bastard's mouth.
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Despite the fact that the United States is embroiled in three major conflicts and can barely service its own gigantic debt, with Standard and Poor this week indicating the US will soon lose its triple-A credit rating, top globalist and former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger recently told fellow elitists at three different globalist confabs that the US needs to launch a ground invasion of Libya and keep the war running for at least another year.

According to veteran Bilderberg journalist Jim Tucker, whose sources have proven routinely accurate in leaking discussion topics shared by globalists at their regular meetings, Kissinger gave almost the exact same speech at three different conferences over the past two weeks, firstly during an April 8-10 get-together at the George Washington University’s Elliot School of International Affairs, then at an Aspen Institute session on “Values and Diplomacy” at the National Cathedral, and finally during the Bretton Woods II conference in New Hampshire.

“Kissinger, visibly depressed, gave a rationale for the war on Libya that the TC (Trilateral Commission) and its brother group, Bilderberg, want to keep rolling, according to an inside source who has proved reliable for years. Both groups want the war extended through 2012 to generate turmoil throughout the Middle East and pressure the United States into attacking Iran on behalf of Israel. Which would also produce huge war profits,” writes Tucker.

With President Obama keen to oversee more “mission creep” in Libya, by sending unmanned drones to intensify the air bombardment, Kissinger made it clear that the ultimate intention was to do what Obama specifically promised would never happen, a US ground invasion.

Entering the 10th year of the occupation of Afghanistan, and with US forces still tied down in Iraq, by April 4 American taxpayers had already shelled out an estimated $608 million dollars to pay for the intervention in Libya. The expenditure shows no signs of abating as the Obama administration signals its intent to deepen U.S. involvement even as ratings agency Standard & Poor announced Monday that the U.S. risks losing its AAA credit rating because of the government’s inability to reduce the budget deficit.


Kissinger’s call for a ground invasion is symptomatic of the way globalists use America’s military muscle to pursue madcap geopolitical objectives while the country itself withers and dies. State governments across the country are now saying they cannot afford to pay police and firefighters as local communities are shut down, so how on earth can the Obama administration justify spending what will eventually amount to billions of dollars to intervene in a civil war in North Africa?

“In all three speeches, Kissinger played the reluctant damsel who was firmly convinced that the United States must put boots on the ground in Libya—among all the wars that the U.S. is already involved in,” reports Tucker.

In addition, Kissinger was keen to voice his displeasure at the fact that certain media publications, which the globalists normally rely on to keep such information under wraps, had leaked the news that Al-Qaeda terrorists were playing a key role in helping the Libyan rebels and NATO fight Gaddafi. This information “being forced into the national press makes it more difficult” to sell the invasion of Libya, Kissinger said, according to Tucker’s source.

The endgame of the war in Libya is to further isolate Iran in preparation for a US-led attack carried out in the name of protecting Israel. Kissinger was keen to make the connection between Libya and Iran in his speeches, claiming that Gaddafi’s conduct “may tempt the Iranian regime to speed its development of a nuclear weapon. Rogue states have to remain convinced of our determination to resist nuclear proliferation.”

Expanding the conflict in Libya will undoubtedly be a central focus of the upcoming Bilderberg meeting which is set to take place in the resort city of St. Moritz, southeastern Switzerland, from June 9-12. Although the exact location of the conference has yet to be pinned down, it’s widely expected that the luxurious 5-star Grand Hotel Kempinski will be the site of what promises to be one of the most important Bilderberg meetings in recent years.

Indeed, when attempting to book a room for the period in question via the hotel website, a message pops up saying the hotel is closed, all but confirming it as the location for Bilderberg 2011. However, Bilderberg have been known to change their plans at the last minute in a bait and switch to throw journalists off the scent.

Tucker, who has been hunting Bilderberg for no less than 36 years, has released his Bilderberg itinerary for the 2011 meeting.
http://www.infowars.com/kissinger-ca...sion-of-libya/
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