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Waco was a Real Holocaust: Fact vs. Propaganda
The 25 year anniversary to the start of the Waco massacre will be on Feb. 28.
Leading up to that date, there has been much infuriating garbage on television, painting the ATF and FBI in a light that makes them appear to have been a benign entity that made a few minor mistakes. Nothing could be further from the truth. If you watch nothing else, this film is the truth. Shows the bullet holes through the door were incoming rounds, and how the FBI tore entire pages out of the log books, and 'lost' film footage that NBC and ATF were filming from across the street, how they shot the whole house up, every room and every window, how they had guns in the tanks when claiming they did not, etc. Cavanaugh is one of the most evil people in human history. A repeat liar and killer. The indifferent Schumer and his fellow indifferent politicians are, too--in fact I think they are glad when goy die. Interesting to note and not in the film: Davidians were thrown out of Israel, and they have teachings that were quite interesting in light of all of this. I'm sure (((Schumer))) didn't appreciate their lack of Israel worship Zio-tardedness, they like their Xtians to be more Hagee-like. Lon Horiuchi, the Jap-Catholic sniper man who shot Vicki Weaver in the head, was there to kill babies and whatnot as well. These shows on television are infuriating when you know what is being left out, obfuscated, and flat out lied about. *Note: the pic on the vid is of Wayne and Sheila Martin's daughter, and there were people of every race in there. That's not the issue here, Government murdering people and lying about it is. They will do that to anyone doing anything they want to shut down, that's important to realize. They stopped Garveyites from growing their back to Africa movement, because they wanted to push racial 'diversity'. Another interesting thing: they first reported the Davidians were 'racists' on local television until people saw the vid of the Asians, Blacks, and Mexicans in there. As if being racist would mean you can murder someone's kids. Whether you're a Weaver Whitey or a Garvey BTA adherent, if you are a threat to the agenda in some way, then that's how (((they))) view you.
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So when is the ATF going to raid the many Islamic enclave camps across the Eastern United States, that undoubtedly is safe haven, for child brides and sharia law........Oh I forgot, child abuse is only a crime if it is a perpetrated by White Anti Government Cults. |
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I actually confronted a representative of HS-Precision at the Shot Show one year about this, the first comments were, "I have no recollection of the person you are referring to"... I pressed the topic until some old asshole from the back of the booth stepped up and said 'When you fire on Federal Agents that is what you get, shot in the Face". I loudly replied, HS-PRECISION, proud employers of Murdering Scum Who shoot unarmed Women in the face. They did hire the shit bag, and now their company has suffered for it from what I hear, so much that Remington dropped using them as a vendor because of the same situation. Quote:
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The only recourse was to cover it up with fire. This just goes to show you, Having illegal weapons, molesting children and being a Christard Religious Fruitcake is a dangerous mix. |
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They were no more nuts than many other groups who aren't being murdered, though. There was a plan in place, and they planned it for several years, as far back as the George HW Bush presidency. Quote:
This was practiced at Ft. Hood. Planned for years, it was not a botched 'no knock' search warrant. They sent them to kill, and the Davidians fought back. The guns they were supposedly there to confiscate (and lets not confuse that issue, they were there on gun charges, not child rape) were LEGAL until they were put together in the defense counter-attack. No gun laws were being broken by the Davidians---until they defended themselves. If you watched the film, the pre-planned attack and alert to NBC news that 'something big was going to go down' show this was all quite planned and staged. The woman who made the call did so as part of their plan to prove the ATF needed 'more funding' to fight 'domestic terrorists' and cults. Quote:
The 'dangerous mix' is having guns, home schooling, and teaching that Israel are not the end all be all of gawd. Weavers had totally different beliefs than Davidians, and the government did the same. Black separatists who were burned alive in the 60s, same reason: they want nobody independent of the system, growing in power, teaching alternate beliefs to the ones they are teaching. Lets not forget the lies they tell: *That Vicki Weaver was 'prepared to kill her own kids' and that she and Randy killed Sammy. That was put out in media at the beginning of the attack on Ruby Ridge. * That the Davidians were 'beating newborn babies and women'. Janet Reno told that lie. They not only didn't beat babies, they were expressly forbidden to ever hit women, and children, sans the occasional spanking that was only to be administered by the child's parent. * That they never shot first: proven lie, including shooting unarmed people and PUPPIES from helicopters. * That the Davidians started the fire: on audio, Steve Schneider begs them not to burn them out 'to destroy all evidences' and thinks that's what they will do. They did. They poked holes in the building and turned it into a pot bellied stove, they shot in pyrotechnic devices and caused fire when mixed with the fuel the Davidians made molotof cocktails with to throw at the tanks. They ran over Jimmy Riddle, removing his head, shoulder, and half of his torso. Can you imagine dying that way? Most important thing for anyone to remember: David Koresh could've been arrested on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday...you get the idea. He jogged and went to Wal-Mart by himself regularly. And he opened the door when they got there, but before saying 'hello', there were helicopters shooting up the bedrooms of the very children they were supposedly concerned about. Very important to combat propaganda with facts, as this shit is rolled out dishonestly over tv in the coming weeks. They want to create a revisionist history on what they've done, hoping nobody remembers, or digs too deep.
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There was a statement made, long put down a memory hole, that I heard by a commentator on the jewtube, right after Waco. The commentator was rather famous in that era, but I have forgotten his name. It was a show about Waco. The comment that stands in my mind so vividly was, paraphrased, "there is evidence to show that David Koresh, whose real name was Vernon Howell, was targeted by the U. S. government for being a tax resister who enjoyed stockpiling weapons. Also, the government has a BiG problem with charismatic leaders who hold a rather large number of U. S. citizens who are immensely loyal to one man."
The commentator slipped quietly away from any other news program. I never heard of him again. Word was he was fired because of the old excuse of "salary demands." No other news station picked him up. For all I know he's raising rabbits somewhere in a bumfuck town in Georgia. QED 14/88 Erik
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The alphabet agency clowns would've never pulled that shit on browns or blacks. They know public opinion would be against them. You kill a White as a White, you're a hero. Yet, you're a White officer who kills a pack of black savages charging at an unarmed White mother and her children? You're a racist, and you'll be imprisoned to the fullest extent of the law. God help you. All the while, most of society will support it without a second thought. Even as in the long run such a people seal their own fate in doing so, the brainwashed masses continuing to quietly cuck along like good little slaves, none the wiser.
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Who cares if Koresh was anti Jew, he was a kid diddling shit bag. That makes everyone of those Christards an accomplice for not either reporting his ass, kicking the shit out of him, or just offing his ass and feed him to the wild pigs. Quote:
No they didn't........There were NO SHOTS FIRED from within the compound during the initial raid. The ATF agents that were killed that day were shot from inside the main house by other ATF agents, confused in the tear gas, they heard shots, and the agents inside the house began wetting down the entire complex. It is even on a film where one ATF agent shoots himself in the leg going up an entry ladder, and is STILL ORDERED to proceed. By this time, they had probably retreated to the underground bus. Quote:
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But as you previously admitted, the cause of the initial raid was illegal firearms, which you seem to have some sort of delusion about "Assembled" versus Non assembled weapons. There is not grey area there. They were in possession of illegal firearms. Quote:
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Why you needed to give some lame "They hated Israel" narrative I will never know, but that was never even an issue brought up by survivors. Last edited by Olaf Menes; January 28th, 2018 at 07:41 PM. |
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Clearly You Didn't Watch the Hearings, Listen to the tapes, Read the books or Watch the films
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But you didn't watch the hearings, films, or read any books....but you're gonna LAUGH. Wrong, and idiotic to boot, because that came out in the hearings. ATF and FBI records and testimony showed they were training at Ft. Hood. Why are you commenting when you know none of the facts? I don't think you care about the facts, or you wouldn't make such a wrong, ignorant comment. You could start here with the congressional hearings you never watched: they've been available in their entirety for decades. Pt. 1 of day 1 (all days available on YT): WAS PLANNED FOR YEARS. Ever heard of Robert Rodriguez? He's the agent sent in to pretend to want to learn of their religion, and he was a Fed Agent. Years before the raid. They used him to learn the layout of the building, what kind of weapons they had, and so on. You know nothing about the case, or you'd know that. http://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/25/us...e-ignored.html He wanted to kill himself after having gotten to know all the children, felt guilty for his involvement. He tried to get them not to attack that day. Robert realized he was used for nefarious purposes---after the fact. And it made him want to die. But you don't know who he even is, clearly. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1...-hartnett-raid Quote:
Now you're ranting that we shouldn't care about the case because you now fully understand that what I said before was true: he did have sex with underage girls. You were just as adamant then as you are now about the attack not being planned for years, which is thoroughly documented and not disputed by anyone, not even the Feds themselves. Have to wonder what the agenda is, for you to read none of the transcripts, watch or listen to anything, and then argue the facts. Absurd. Here you are fighting with me saying he might not have been a child molester: OLAF MENES: Quote:
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You had nothing else to say after that, you were wrong. You're wrong here, too, for the same reasons. It's like commenting on a book you didn't read, why you do it I dunno. Quote:
Again: why comment on something you aren't reading up on? This is easily found info. for many, many years. They were investigated by CPS and the local Sheriff went there several times. They did not have enough evidence to make a case, as was said in the film, since the girls had parental consent and they did not move forward with charges. Guess what, Olaf: of course they should've disagreed with sticking by a pedo....but the Fed Government can't shoot into a house full of infants and elderly to 'get a pedo', and if you don't understand that, I can't make you understand it. Quote:
Here you go, the actual proof--tell your friend to eat a big bag o' dicks: Not only is it talked about in the hearings you didn't watch, here is Wes Clark discussing it, and they were trained at Ft Hood (His Democratic ass was involved): http://www.wnd.com/2003/10/21282/ "..For example, there is the 1993 siege of David Koresh’s Mount Carmel commune in Waco, Texas, where four law-enforcement officers were killed and nearly 90 civilians – men, women and children – massacred by being shot and/or burned alive. Those seeking an investigation of his part in the Waco outrage say that Clark not only played a hidden role in the military-style assault on the Branch Davidians, but easily could have refused to participate in what was a clear violation of the Posse Comitatus Act that bars use of the U.S. military for civilian law-enforcement activities. Although Clark has never publicly discussed his role in the attack on the Branch Davidians and did not respond to Insight’s requests for an interview to discuss his role at Waco, there are indisputable facts that confirm he had knowledge of the grim plans to bring the standoff to an end. Between August 1992 and April 1994, Clark was commander of the 1st Cavalry Division of the Army’s III Corps at Fort Hood, Texas. According to a report by the U.S. Department of the Treasury, the list of military personnel and equipment used at Waco included: 15 active-duty military personnel, 13 Texas National Guard personnel, nine Bradley fighting vehicles, five combat-engineer vehicles, one tank-retrieval vehicle and two M1A1 Abrams tanks. Additionally, Fort Hood reportedly was used for much of the training for the bloody attack on the Davidians and their children.." Many more sites with that info, easy to find: Here it is again, straight from the FBI themselves, you lying fool: http://www.nytimes.com/1994/02/10/us...sect-raid.html " Earlier trial testimony has shown that Special Forces members, better known as Green Berets, were present during training of Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agents at Fort Hood, Tex., during preparations for the Feb. 28 raid. Mr. Craig told jurors that military vehicles used by the F.B.I. in the Branch Davidian operation included seven Bradley armored personnel carriers, four 54-ton combat engineering vehicles, two M-1 Abrams battle tanks, and a tracked maintenance recovery vehicle." ^^Sheeeit. Looks like your 'buddy' green nigger and you are lying. Still laughing? I'm basing my writing on facts, you aren't. Quote:
The film, and FLIR experts, show they shot from the helicopters. They shot up the water tower, too, water was pouring into the room of a man who died face first in the plate of pancakes he was eating. Shot by fire from a helicopter. You are posting easily proven wrong drivel, which amounts to lying when you don't even look for the info. before you write. Again, you'd know these things if you'd watched or read one thing. Quote:
The women and children who ATTEMPTED to retreat to the bus---on the LAST day of the seige---didn't make it to the bus. Wanna know why, since you apparently know nothing? The examiners showed why in the evidence. The entry way was filled with pyrotechnic devices, so they were in the metal lined room just before they got to the bus. Because they didn't get out of that metal lined room, they were literally COOKED TO DEATH. Sheila Martin mentioned being particularly haunted by that. Most of the other kids died of CS gas poisoning prior to being burned. One little girl was bowed backwards from the convulsions. Convulsions so hard they broke her bones. You still laughing? You want to refute facts with stuff you pulled out of your butt? Quote:
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You haven't read, 'The Ashes of Waco' either, clearly. And I didn't say they 'hated Israel'. I said they were not Zionists. Which is also correct. The tv will be lying all month and next, as you just did, for morons who don't fact check. I'm happy to place all this here to show anyone who actually wants to learn, and want sources to cross reference. This is one of the most important cases of rights violation in American History, it wouldn't matter if they believe in flying monkeys.
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"We arent assaulting the 'compound' ..."
Armor from Gen. Wesley Clark's command at Fort Hood passes in front of burning structure with 76 US civilians (including 25 children) inside after destroying it flying the Stars n Stripes near Waco, TX April 19, 1993 ...does anyone have any questions about how "our" government views us after "viewing" this photo? Last edited by T.Garrett; January 29th, 2018 at 06:43 AM. |
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The point to be taken from Waco, is that as far as the government is concerned, we're all Davidians.
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The BATFaggots did get shot by Davidians, and they were found to be within their rights in doing so. Media did not discuss those trials to any great extent, and a lot of folks don't realize the ones who were tried were not found guilty of murder, they were found guilty on weapons charges, relating to the weapons being illegal when assembled. Many charges stacked up, long sentences, but all are out today. Also, 16 kid killer ATF were wounded in addition to the 4 killed, but important to realize: if the Davidians had wanted to kill every one of those agents, they could've. They arrived on open bed cattle trailers. The Attorney for Steve Schneider pointed that out in the hearings....but as soon as the ATF retreated and asked them to stop as well, they did. To me the most shocking thing that I can't get over is the willingness to maniacally kill those children---anyone knows that helicopters shooting up a building, shooting up the whole place, would put those children at risk, terrify them, etc. ...And they try to sell the story that it was 'because their parents were bad'. Killing children for the sins of the parents, that's something a retarded IQ nigger should have qualms about. The US Government operates like a cult in many ways. You can't question it too severely, you can be lied on if you are displeasing to them and folks with believe the lies, and you 'should die' if you are deemed 'bad'.
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Those nice Rambos were mooning them, running over the corpse of a buried Davidian with tanks, and giving them the finger. Running over their garden, cars, buildings with tanks, too. They were acting like roided up 14 year olds in a video game, playing with people's lives. Yes.
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I'm surprised they didn't call in an airstrike as well, in regards to any law or regulation that stood in the way of them doing what they did that day well that can just be argued to insignificance in some or another court venue for years after the deed is done. Fact is they were so terrified of losing a very public confrontation with a determined group of armed citizens that they blew them and their kids away and sadly that's all she wrote or will ever write. Thanks for creating this thread, I honor people who stand their ground to oppressors regardless of race or religion. Self determination is hardwired into us humans, cant ever find happiness or purpose without it. Cheers! |
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Thanks Emily for posting the video. I just watched the entire thing and I had forgotten many of the sickening details. At the time this occurred, I was hip deep in working full time as a caseworker, and running an animal rights' group, and doing full time animal rescue work around the clock. I'm almost ashamed that I did not pay closer attention to this horror, and realize it for what it was.
What a horrifying, completely inexcusable event the entire episode was. To watch those tanks being manned by those mindless, idiotic gubbamint homicidal out of control maniacs--the same people who are being honored by the conservacucks every day, and who make up the rank and file of local law enforcement who deprive us of our rights on a daily basis, shoot our pets, trump up charges, lie outright, arrest us over nothing, and kill us for kicks...makes me wanna lose my breakfast. Or something. To go back now and watch those tanks systematically destroying almost with abandon and glee everything built by those people, knowing that inside the buildings somewhere were innocent women and children running for their lives is almost too much to bear. To know that your own gubbamint is willing and able to go to such lengths to carry out their evil agenda is more than chilling. The comment by the journalist that it is the media's job to dig deep and uncover the facts, the truth as it were, and in this case the media was asleep at the wheel, was the most chilling statement made. Yes, where was the media at Waco, Ruby Ridge, Charlottesville, when Whites were being both abused and abandoned by their gubbamint? Where??? As I sat here thinking this morning, I suddenly realized all these incidents, and many more involving Whites, are all connected but your average White person doesn't get it. White people exerting their constitutionally protected right to free speech, and freedom of assembly, and freedom of association, the right to express ourselves, the right to live our lives as we want...and our gubbamint despises us for all of it. Lies, lies, and more lies from the gubbamint, from the jew media...and your average White person doesn't have a clue. I wish there was something we could do to bring attention to the anniversary date of Waco, but also bring in Ruby Ridge, and all the damn lies of Charlottesville. Emily, I wish you lived near me. We could do a helluva street corner demonstration with signs and fliers. Individuals who do things tend to be viewed as wackos. Pardon the pun.
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So the government killed a cult of multi-racial end of the world nut jobs led by a paedophile.
And that's a bad thing??
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Nobody here is defending the Davidians. The point is, if the government would do that to them, they'd do the same to anyone else.
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Cuz kids don't choose who their parents are, for one. And if for no other reason, that'd be enough. If the Govt. had decided the Evangelical School I was attending at the exact time the Davidians were being murdered was chock full o' nuts (it was!) and shot up the place, then gassed us kiddos for 6 hours...yes, that's a bad thing.
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*On another note: you should've seen the news when I lived in Austin and some WNists dropped flyers in a South Austin neighborhood. Eeekkk! It was reported on the 6 and 10 o'clock news like they'd found WMDs. ....South Austin has gangs, MS-13, niggers, etc.....but they done found themselves some fliers telling White people to like deyselves and breed with each other. Sheeeit!
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They'd only grow up to cause trouble, why let a problem fester when you can properly deal with it early.
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