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Thanks for satisfying my curiosity, H.
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Yes, I know the NA doesn't go the voting route - and I understand that people here are not making their statements on behalf of the NA in an official capacity - but the principle is still the same. If an entity wants support it first has to prove itself worthy of support and focus on real issues relevant to real people. Quote:
I didn't. I said "whether he was guilty or not is not my point". Nobody with a basic grasp of literacy skills would infer that I was saying he definitely was guilty. People can see who the troublemaker is, Hadding. I haven't even participated in this thread since early yesterday evening and you've mentioned me how many times? Quote:
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You know what I'm going to say, don't you? Yes, yes you do. Care to point out where - in this quote - I called him a paedophile? Quote:
Sycophants? First, I have no idea who said it and second, I can hardly be held responsible for people taking issue with your comments any more than you can be held responsible for anything Hadding or Fred Streed or anyone else says. In fact, you'll note that people were taking issue with both your limericks and your dental video comparison before I was.
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Did you see he's being released this year and planning on relocating to Thailand to teach? That speaks volumes to me.
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The bottom line here us that these NA2015 are intent on normalising and enabling paedophilia to exonerate the registered sex offender Strom. Regardless of the approach this is self evidently their goal to justify and lionise their hero Strom. They are scum,
namely, old nick, marred. steed. neverhadding I have no qualms labelling them paedophiles they are and have all at different times in this thread advocated sex with children. No one would leave their children in the custody of such scum and all need and deserve ironing out for their perversions.
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A thousand real activists would be a game changer. Look how much trouble Pierce and his tiny crew were able to cause. Look at the "code word for anti-White" mantra gang. That's probably Whitaker, Horus and a few hundred followers at most and they're creating their own narrative frame, forcing anti-Whites to respond. One of many problems with Williams NA is if a thousand serious activists signed up he wouldn't know what to do with them. |
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I wasn't impressed by how Williams handled that controversy. I got a strong cult vibe from his "join up and then maybe I'll explain myself" line. His response to the latest fiasco is to repeat the same line, with more assurances that we should take his word that everything is fine. If Williams hadn't wormed his way into the chairmanship maybe the other contenders would have wrested control from Gliebe, or maybe it would still be tied up in court. Either way it's hard to see how it would be worse than what Williams has... accomplished. |
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Streed and Marr are good men, I vouch for them. Old Nick, I don't know who that is. You don't call people pedophiles, that's not acceptable, nor is it honorable. You only call people pedophiles if they are pedophiles and you have evidence that they are. Same with calling them jews or feds. These are the rules. They have been long posted, they should be known by all. There is a special place in Hell, if it existed, for people who continually walk the edge of the rules. I particularly hate this activity. It makes me think ill of you. It makes me think you are put up to this by the enemy. Last edited by Alex Linder; May 27th, 2015 at 12:34 PM. |
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Maybe Jimmy Marr or Fred Streed or even Hadding could please answer this question. If Strom is innocent of the paedo charges, why did he feel the need to invent The Charlottesville Times fake newspaper? That is something an innocent person would not do, but a guilty one with no moral compass would.
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Bottom line-White Nationalism would be better off without Sammy Rouse/Emerson. Each day he continues spreading his poisonous lies harms Whites.
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Everybody bow to old man Fred and bagpipe playing, limerick writing muppet Marr. Mr Linder vouch's for them!! So fucking what Mr Linder...i like this forum, i like the freedom people have to put across their opinions, you write excellent articles and own a great website....but as a man, you do not impress me, so forgive me if i take your endorsement of men who i think are morally weak and a bit sinister with a huge pinch of salt.
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You who don't live in US or directly know these people are a little too willing to draw conclusions that -- you ought to notice -- don't jibe with those of us who actually do know these people. |
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May 27th, 2015 | #1736 |
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Personally I will avoid NA because I don't like its culture. I was in it to support Pierce, as he directly asked me to join, and I wanted to help him. I learned a lot in the few brief years before he died. But I just came in at the tail end; these others have longer histories.
VNN has an open culture, a culture of criticism. NA has a closed culture, a culture of suppressing dissent and moving in lockstep. I'm not trying to defame NA by saying that, I'm describing what I have observed first-hand over years. What I don't like is that while Williams is attacking me, his charges just go on using VNNF to promote their organization. That's not white. That should not happen. Yet at the same time he attacks VNN or me personally, he's demanding criticism of NA be silenced. I could tell Will to grow up, but it doesn't work like that. And that is one strong reason I will stay away from NA. They're just two different cultures. Go your own way, NA. I don't mind if members post here, but when you're here, you're part of this culture, and leave the NA way at the door. I can't pass a bunch of rules on this or that, I'm saying as a simple matter of manners and respect. Last edited by Alex Linder; May 27th, 2015 at 03:11 PM. |
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For VNNF members generally, in thinking about groups and joining or supporting - what is it you want more of? That's what you should subsidize.
WN are doing a good job disseminating information and genuine alt-media. So you can support the writer or forum of your choice. Without any genuine risk. I joined NA, but as I wasn't getting involved with organizing at that point, due to personal circumstances, my real intent was to make sure Pierce kept pumping out the ADVs. If you want to go beyond supporting media creators/disseminaters, then what it is you hope to accomplish with a group? When you join a group, you do give up your information. The enemy has proved it can get this information. If you have a job beyond the simple service level, it will run to your employer and tell them they have a nazi working for them. You see SPLC doing this even to people who are retired. Scaring people. Contacting anyone they can find to out you and shame you. This seems to work on many people. You run this risk going in, if you're going to join a group - know that. Be aware of the risks. Do a risk/reward evaluation. Don't bitch if the worst happens. Fight but don't bitch. Be loyal always. Now, why the leader of NA runs his mouth to SPLC repeatedly, I don't know. Why ANYONE who considers himself pro-white talks to SPLC, I don't know. It's indefensible. Of course whites do need organization. But that's a broad word. What the feds fear are white men coming together and forming units like Chester Doles did, where dozens or hundreds of connected local white men begin talking politically about the unwelcome changes the jews running DC are introducing to their communities, and what they can do about them. You can do what Doles did without being part of a national group. It really doesn't matter. If you need ideas or want to get others, you have the internet to advertise and find like minds. It's harder to smear you and take you down if you're not paper- and institutionally-connected to a known and demonized national 'hate' group. Take a neutral, local name, keep a low profile. You'll get the same treatment in time, but will take longer to defame and stigmatize you. At this point, any white political group that could be effective would simply get the Golden Dawn treatment. I don't see how to get around that plain fact when considering starting/joining an organization. Unless the leaders of a group are willing to go into the street and make that their #1 priority, actually offering to lead and actually leading white people -- ongoingly, dramatically, publicly -- then what you're doing is basically just information dissemination, which is perfectly valid, but you don't need a group to do it. Last edited by Alex Linder; May 27th, 2015 at 02:50 PM. |
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Was the Aryan Alternative fake? Is the New York Times real? What differentiates a fake newspaper from a real newspaper? Must it be owned by a jew to be real? Does it have to print the truth to be real? Must it have certain circulation numbers? Must it's budget be of a certain size? You seem to think Kevin Strom is somehow less entitled to print a newspaper than Rupert Murdoch? Why? Is it because you think he's a paedophile? And why would you think that unless someone else's newspaper had told you so? That's why Kevin Strom felt the need to publish his own newspaper. Like anyone else, he wanted to get some eyeballs in front of HIS side of the story. Believe it or not, that's not a crime, nor is it an indication of guilt or moral turpitude. If Kevin Strom is capable or publishing an online newspaper and attracting readers to it, then I say more power to him. I wish I could do the same. How on earth can you imagine winning a propaganda war without printing propaganda? If you don't know what truth propaganda is, ask Craig. He's an expert. |
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One more gripe, before I shut up. I wish these damned Brits would learn to spell. It's pedophile, not paedophile. Color, not colour. Favor, not favour.
But what the hell, you can't expect too much from people who drive on the wrong side of the damned road and eat something called spotted dick.
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