"Alone" Reality Show

Donnie in Ohio · July 7th, 2015

Anyone else watching this? It broadcasts on The History Channel on Thursday evenings.

The show takes 10 men (who appear to all be white) who are "survival experts" and drops them off alone in the middle of a thick rainforest in British Columbia. Only allowed 10 items. No food or water provided.

They are each given multiple cameras which they use to self-document their attempts to survive, basically. They have a sat-phone they can use to "tap out" and call for rescue when shit gets real (Bears, wolves, inability to get a fire started). Last man standing wins half a million bucks.

Only took 24 hours for the first guy to bail. Bear issues. One other guy had serious bear issues 48 hours in, one guy had wolf issues, one (who seemed to have it together) carelessly lost his fire-starting flint, which caused him to fold. 6 guys still left on day 5.

What struck me is how quickly a few of the men seemed to begin to lose it mentally after just a couple of days of isolation. Stammering, teary-eyed declarations of eternal love for your family are to be an expected part of such a situation eventually I would think, but fuck, not before a loaf of bread can go stale.

At any rate, it's interesting to see just how tough it would be to live as a true hunter/gatherer.

EDLIE Stampton · July 7th, 2015

Looks like an interesting show.
Im sure we could all learn from it but even if we don't.
ITS A MANS PROGRAME.

If you don't watch jew TV you can watch Alone on line.
Best to get ad block to stop the pop ups.Its free.

This works just pick your link.
http://www.clicknwatchonline.com/alone-s01e01/

Donnie in Ohio · July 12th, 2015

Down to 5.

One of the participants wasn't able to get a fire started at all, so he was drinking brackish water which he filtered through moss, which apparently isn't good enough to make water potable. He started hallucinating, seeing "Mayan symbols " glowing on the roof of his tent at night, and called for rescue. The ability to start a fire seems the most important factor in a survival situation.

One of the guys set up a net and caught himself a large salmon that he was able to roast. Unfortunately, it appears cougars (not the sexy kind) also enjoy salmon, as the episode ended with a big kitty sniffing around his camp.

After just 5 days in what admittedly is an extremely harsh environment, all of the remaining 5 men seem to be cracking up to various degrees.

Mother Nature is a real bitch.

keifer · July 12th, 2015

If you do not know where to start these two videos will get you there. Everyone in your group should have this type of set up.

10 piece kit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttRFIvsuf4A

The knife discussion to end all other knife discussions. The knife is the most costly piece of gear because it is not the time to go cheap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpNQS6CX7FA

Olaf Menes · July 12th, 2015

The interesting thing here is the apparent inability for so called "Survivalists" to prepare the most challenging tool in a wilderness/crisis situation. The mind.

A so called "Survivalist" expert can't make fire? LMFAO. In a forest like that, it is always possible to start a fire if you know where to look for tinder.

Being able to stay calm and think your way out of situations/mental preparation is the most important tool you can have.

Bears and cougars? don't make me laugh. Only an idiot would fall into most of this reality tv scripted garbage.These "Reality" shows are created to do two things.....Along with the laughable naked and afraid.... to get ratings, and....Demoralize people into thinking it is impossible to survive without the comforts of modern society and being under the wing of civilization.

I found the hardest thing to survive in a wilderness challenge does not come from bears or cougars or rabid skunks....it comes from, lack of common sense, the inability to separate book "Smarts" from practical experience, clean water, mosquitoes and snakes, and simple condensation and clothing accumulated moisture in the winter.

Anyone with any real survival experience knows never to catch, cook or store food anywhere near where you sleep. Any food prep must be fast and trailing.....at least a mile away, meaning even the residue of cooked food can get you tracked by a hungry apex predator. In a massive wooded area, building a predator safe sleeping area is relatively simple. These guys are scripted morons. Don't fall into the "Unreality" of reality TV.

Samuel Toothgold · July 12th, 2015

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Originally Posted by keifer

If you do not know where to start these two videos will get you there. Everyone in your group should have this type of set up...

Dave Canterbury - Dumb Decisions - The Honey - Dual Survival

This nutter is fun to watch. He isn't that successful and I wonder how he survived crossing the Amazon at all:

Ed Stafford Naked and Marooned ᴴᴰ S01E01 Stranded Full Episode

Not as entertaining as the others. But, I'd rate this survivor number 1 of al TV survivors:

Abenteuer Survival - Am Krater des Mount Kilauea

keifer · July 12th, 2015

I don't know about TV survivalists because I don't have a TV.
So I guess I have nothing to offer in the way of conversation as to "My favorite TV survivalist can out survive your favorite TV survivalist."

I will say this though, the older I get the less options there are for delegating respect. It is equally important to give respect as it is to get respect. The two people who have the most profound impact on myself, in terms of practicality and real world skill-set are Dave Canterbury and Alex Linder. Linder is a true survivalist, to the core. The very definition there of because quite simply he refuses to quit. I would gladly have Linder in my group even if he doesn't know jack-shit about making a fire.

Hugh · August 14th, 2015

So they have six months notice, are placed on the shore surrounded by fish actually washing up onto the beach, surrounded by birds, with clay, stones, pebbles, trees, all manner of flexible vegetation, and they are in a survival situation? Bwa ha ha One wonders how they survive within their own home.

In any environment a boma structure around your entire operating area and another denser one around your tent, with several nice little oven type structures, as it keeps the fire dry, is easy to cook and dry with, warms the area and the scent of burning will keep most away.
A row of fishing rods out at work, a workshop type area to begin to make some pottery and all the various items will need, and after that then one can go stroll around after a day or two of thinking/fishing/trapping, making camp first.
Once the first camp is up, then one can be off exploring, not till then.
Moving about a lot is what causes the problems, as it leads to injuries, and to be lost and injured, without a camp already set up, means one would have a most interesting day.

Out in the wilds, as it is most dangerous at night, plan to be awake at night, and nap during the day rather, like the rest of nature.

Relax, take it easy and enjoy yourself, and if you take it easy outdoors, the outdoors will take it easy on you

This is the attitude they should have towards being out in the wilds, it's great fun.

The German version of Ray Mears, even more relaxed.

Bauanleitung für einen Bushcraft- Lehmofen / how to build a bushcraft clay oven

Ray Mears' Bushcraft S02E02 - Canoe Journey

Finnenkerze / Swedish Torch

keifer · July 12th, 2015

What struck me is how quickly a few of the men seemed to begin to lose it mentally before a loaf of bread can go stale.

Mind if I use this quote in the future?

keifer · July 12th, 2015

I did a 5 day course without food, limited gear in which case they took that gear away as the days went on. In the end we had just a blanket, 15' of cordage and a compass. I was caught off guard a little because it ended up being an intense navigation agenda. Food and water deprivation will show itself clearly when doing even the most basic of math calculations. I showed up ready to spear some carp and jack some rabbits. I also showed up in a wilderness environment forwhich I had zero experience with. My partner,who had no hunting/trapping skills what so ever but more practiced than I with navigation, broke down on the fourth day. He could not get it together enough to tie three sticks together for a pack frame. On the second day the hunger was intense and of all the days it was the one day of most doubt. By the third day and there after hunger sensation was not such a big deal other than physical strength was depleted. We were also deprived of sleep. That was a huge factor. Through out each day they kept piling on tasks and projects for us to complete in a timely fashion which was designed to over tax our minds, all the while taking more pieces of gear. Water was also restricted, and reduced to boil and carry in whatever container could be scrounged. In my case it was a whiskey bottle. No matter how much you boil pond water, you never get rid of the taste of beaver.

Donnie in Ohio · July 12th, 2015

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keifer

What struck me is how quickly a few of the men seemed to begin to lose it mentally before a loaf of bread can go stale.

Mind if I use this quote in the future?

Be my guest. It does seem the mental aspect plays a truly significant part in a survival situation. Especially when you're on your own.

I did field survival in the military, but that was a long time ago. I have serious doubts if I could get a fire started without some external ignition source today. All the contestants had a six month advance notice in order to prepare themselves. And they're still falling out like a fat guy on a road march. Now they have to go home and explain to all their buddies how it was too tough and they were forced to bail.

After 24 hours.

Squarehead Chris · July 12th, 2015

That's what that cannuckie survivor guy Les Stroud always says, that the mental mindset to survive is one of the toughest yet most important things to have if you want to live.

July 7th, 2015	#1
Donnie in Ohio Switching to glide Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Morrison Hotel Posts: 9,396 Blog Entries: 11	"Alone" Reality Show Anyone else watching this? It broadcasts on The History Channel on Thursday evenings. The show takes 10 men (who appear to all be white) who are "survival experts" and drops them off alone in the middle of a thick rainforest in British Columbia. Only allowed 10 items. No food or water provided. They are each given multiple cameras which they use to self-document their attempts to survive, basically. They have a sat-phone they can use to "tap out" and call for rescue when shit gets real (Bears, wolves, inability to get a fire started). Last man standing wins half a million bucks. Only took 24 hours for the first guy to bail. Bear issues. One other guy had serious bear issues 48 hours in, one guy had wolf issues, one (who seemed to have it together) carelessly lost his fire-starting flint, which caused him to fold. 6 guys still left on day 5. What struck me is how quickly a few of the men seemed to begin to lose it mentally after just a couple of days of isolation. Stammering, teary-eyed declarations of eternal love for your family are to be an expected part of such a situation eventually I would think, but fuck, not before a loaf of bread can go stale. At any rate, it's interesting to see just how tough it would be to live as a true hunter/gatherer. __________________ "When US gets nuked and NEMO is uninhabitable, I will make my way on foot to the gulf and live off red snapper and grapefruit"- Alex Linder

July 12th, 2015	#3
Donnie in Ohio Switching to glide Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Morrison Hotel Posts: 9,396 Blog Entries: 11	Down to 5. One of the participants wasn't able to get a fire started at all, so he was drinking brackish water which he filtered through moss, which apparently isn't good enough to make water potable. He started hallucinating, seeing "Mayan symbols " glowing on the roof of his tent at night, and called for rescue. The ability to start a fire seems the most important factor in a survival situation. One of the guys set up a net and caught himself a large salmon that he was able to roast. Unfortunately, it appears cougars (not the sexy kind) also enjoy salmon, as the episode ended with a big kitty sniffing around his camp. After just 5 days in what admittedly is an extremely harsh environment, all of the remaining 5 men seem to be cracking up to various degrees. Mother Nature is a real bitch. __________________ "When US gets nuked and NEMO is uninhabitable, I will make my way on foot to the gulf and live off red snapper and grapefruit"- Alex Linder

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July 7th, 2015	#2
EDLIE Stampton Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Pound land Posts: 2,846	Looks like an interesting show. Im sure we could all learn from it but even if we don't. ITS A MANS PROGRAME. If you don't watch jew TV you can watch Alone on line. Best to get ad block to stop the pop ups.Its free. This works just pick your link. http://www.clicknwatchonline.com/alone-s01e01/

July 12th, 2015	#5
Olaf Menes Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 835	The interesting thing here is the apparent inability for so called "Survivalists" to prepare the most challenging tool in a wilderness/crisis situation. The mind. A so called "Survivalist" expert can't make fire? LMFAO. In a forest like that, it is always possible to start a fire if you know where to look for tinder. Being able to stay calm and think your way out of situations/mental preparation is the most important tool you can have. Bears and cougars? don't make me laugh. Only an idiot would fall into most of this reality tv scripted garbage.These "Reality" shows are created to do two things.....Along with the laughable naked and afraid.... to get ratings, and....Demoralize people into thinking it is impossible to survive without the comforts of modern society and being under the wing of civilization. I found the hardest thing to survive in a wilderness challenge does not come from bears or cougars or rabid skunks....it comes from, lack of common sense, the inability to separate book "Smarts" from practical experience, clean water, mosquitoes and snakes, and simple condensation and clothing accumulated moisture in the winter. Anyone with any real survival experience knows never to catch, cook or store food anywhere near where you sleep. Any food prep must be fast and trailing.....at least a mile away, meaning even the residue of cooked food can get you tracked by a hungry apex predator. In a massive wooded area, building a predator safe sleeping area is relatively simple. These guys are scripted morons. Don't fall into the "Unreality" of reality TV.

July 12th, 2015	#7
keifer Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,216	I don't know about TV survivalists because I don't have a TV. So I guess I have nothing to offer in the way of conversation as to "My favorite TV survivalist can out survive your favorite TV survivalist." I will say this though, the older I get the less options there are for delegating respect. It is equally important to give respect as it is to get respect. The two people who have the most profound impact on myself, in terms of practicality and real world skill-set are Dave Canterbury and Alex Linder. Linder is a true survivalist, to the core. The very definition there of because quite simply he refuses to quit. I would gladly have Linder in my group even if he doesn't know jack-shit about making a fire.

July 12th, 2015	#12
Squarehead Chris Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Crawlin' from the wreckage Posts: 1,951	That's what that cannuckie survivor guy Les Stroud always says, that the mental mindset to survive is one of the toughest yet most important things to have if you want to live.