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December 3rd, 2010 | #1 |
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Who are the "We"
IMO, the "we" should be determined by two things:
1. genetics (racial genotype); 2. A strong, almost religious belief in the importance of preserving the "white race"; and possibly, also a belief in the need for eugenics (this eugenic aspect is rarely discussed on the boards and needs to be brought into the open). See, right now we are thinking the "we" is determined by strategies or tactics or beliefs that don't directly enter into the endgoal of creating a community of whites who self-consciously conceive of themselves as representives of the "white" race and its future. First of all, I would like some discussion about whether this is really the endgoal. My main questions arise from two issues: who is white; and what role should eugenics play in the Whitopia we create. (BTW I know Whitopia has a negative connation from utopia, a place of perfection that can never exist, but we need to really believe in this place if we want to band together as a movement, so we could call ourselves Whitopians even though it is somewhat tongue-in-cheek.) But if we can hammer out our raison d'etre, then we can begin to form a "we" which I would argue should not include/exclude based upon differences in strategies, whether kikes did 9/11, or anything else other than the above two criteria. Linder would like to formulate the movement solely on the basis of elimination of the kikes (only a slight exaggeration). Well, whether you approve or not, this is not at the core of White Nationalism. We need to think about what our goals really are. Here is a hypothetical: Suppose some billionaire racist decided to fund the $10million/person trip to Mars to colonize the planet. He would fund 50,000 white folks. Who should go? Who should be excluded? What would entice you personally to go? This is the "we" we need to work on - finding a nucleus of people who are passionate enough about this to give up everything for a fresh start on Mars; you really need to trust and have an affinity for your co-white nationalist, almost a religious bonding. This is what the folks had for each other on the Mayflower. Everyone who aspires to be a white nationalist needs to think beyond a dislike of niggers and kikes and really figure out what this movement is all about. Sorry this is poorly written, but I just wanted to get this out there and get people starting to think about this movement that is not yet a movement because no one seems to be thinking through the issues.
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December 4th, 2010 | #3 |
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Why should that be an exaggeration at all? Nationalism, as I learned it, means self-determination. The need for WN therefore presupposes that we aren’t already in control of our own affairs. That’s how we differ from both existing right and left. The right says whites are in control, only they’re too liberal. The left says whites are in control, only they’re too conservative. Only WN states the obvious: jews are different from us, and they’ve seized enough choke points that they and not whites make the important decisions. So WN, in its most minimal sense, means excluding jews from our people and removing them from power over whites. We can go further than that, and we should, but anything short of that isn’t WN at all.
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We need independence because we aint independent. When it comes to practical politics, the most practical thing we can do is exclude and stigmatize online whiteskins who aid and abet the jews while pretending they're concerned for our race. In a nutshell, attacking Jared Taylor is job #1 for true white nationalists. And attacking anyone who defends him is part of that attack, so that they either wise up, or explicitly state they are conservative losers. |
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December 8th, 2010 | #5 |
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'the man isn't a a fucking "resource" for the state' A. Linder
"We don't have to nationalize the banks and factories. Instead we nationalized the people". A. Hitler |
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Before we come to the definition of "we", there needs to be some set of ideals and qualifications that we can agree on. Some people say the 14 words are the only litmus test for a WN, I would greatly disagree on that.
I think this is a good litmus test for anyone who wishes to be defined as "we". Quote:
My answers are in Red. There is more than one correct answer to some of these questions. No proud, genuine WN should have any problems in answering those questions correctly. |
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