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Old August 3rd, 2013 #41
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Here's my summary of James Whisker's summary of Alfred Rosenberg's Myth of the 20th Century. It's a very long book, so I guess it needs to be summarized twice. Any misinterpretations could be from either of us, or from Rosenberg himself, so take these assertions as they are:

Semitic religion is based on submission to a single deity or pantheon (Yahweh, Allah, Ba’al, the Babylonian gods), which capriciously harms the people who rely on it for sustenance. Aryan religion is based on a conflict between two gods or forces (Heaven and Hell, the Olympians and the Titans, Ahuramazda and Ahriman) one of which is supposed to be supported by mankind (sometimes one faction is known to be more powerful than the other, sometimes they’re evenly matched).

Semitic religions have their gods as pre-existing and they create the rest of the universe from nothing, giving them complete control over it (and making them at least partially malicious). Aryan religion either has the universe pre-existing with the gods or at least has the creation of the universe partially out the good side’s control (either the evil side interferes or a third party sets things up). Semitic gods are motivated by human glorification and a sense of pity while Aryan gods are motivated by a sense of existential conflict.

Semitic religions are materialistic, with their gods acting both as “merchants” (that trade miracles for sacrifices) and as the general explanation for why things occur (Yahweh tells Moses to tell the pharaoh to let the Hebrews leave Egypt, then Yahweh “hardens pharaoh’s heart” so that he says no, then Yahweh makes frogs rain from the sky, and so on). Aryan religions are dualistic, and have a spiritual force (goodness, knowledge, light) in conflict with a material force (evil, ignorance, darkness), leaving humanity caught in the middle.

Semitic religions have human “souls” insofar as they exist as artifacts created by their gods, making the gods infinitely superior to humans and making humans infinitely indebted to them. Aryan religions have human souls as eternal and lesser but still co-existent with the gods, or as incarnate parts of the gods themselves, which gives them some degree of standing among the gods. The follower of a Semitic god attempts to earn its mercy by abolishing his sense of pride, the follower of an Aryan god attempts to earn its respect by abolishing his cowardice.

Related to the above distinction, Semitic religions characterize humans as slaves before their gods who only exist by their mercy, while Aryan religions characterize humans as allies with their gods in the face of a common adversary.

Semitic religions base all human interaction on “love”, compromise, pacifism, and sympathy with the individual, allowing for the priesthood and state officers to command with the least amount of resistance. Aryan religions base human interaction on honor, courage, truthfulness, and dedication to the group, which leaves a smaller gap between any sort of clergy and laity.

By extension, Semitic religions promote feminine and mercantile values while Aryan religions promote masculine and martial values. Semitic religions are better suited for mass population control while Aryan religions are better suited for high levels of social cooperation. Semitic religions require an extensive secular framework which governs the spiritually paralyzed while Aryan religions are fully integrated with their society’s state and with its social mores.

For Rosenberg the archetypal Semitic doctrine is Judaism and the archetypal Aryan doctrine seems closest to the Zoroastrianism of ancient Persia. Rosenberg saw conventional Christianity as fatally compromised by Semitic ideas, primarily due to the subversion of Saul of Tarsus. He considered the gnostic trend within Christianity to be the Aryan part of it rebelling against the rest of it.
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Old August 3rd, 2013 #42
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FFS! My mother in law was trying to tell us that we have demons, because our daughter's room has a leaky roof. She wanted to bless our house. My husband told her to get fucked.
 
Old August 3rd, 2013 #43
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FFS! My mother in law was trying to tell us that we have demons, because our daughter's room has a leaky roof. She wanted to bless our house. My husband told her to get fucked.
Smart man. There is no greater misery created than when a man who knows better indulges a woman's religious fantasies.
 
Old August 3rd, 2013 #44
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Smart man. There is no greater misery created than when a man who knows better indulges a woman's religious fantasies.
Yeah, and now she want's us to meet her new "christian " boyfriend. His dad hasn't even been dead two years. This guy was pulling the evil nazis raped and murdered his family card.

I told her balls out, that he was lying. She didn't want to hear it.
 
Old August 4th, 2013 #45
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I see Angel Ramsey has returned. And just in time to elevate the tone of this thread (in which I doubt she has any serious interest).
 
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I see Angel Ramsey has returned. And just in time to elevate the tone of this thread (in which I doubt she has any serious interest).
I think the key is that churches are rabidly hostile to NS/racialism for a hidden reason, which I have revealed. The smarter priests pick up immediately the danger, while some of the duller ones see NS as successful conservatism because it's against Weimarian degeneracy.

Bottom line: the good elements in the church will follow racialist leadership, if such a thing ever presents itself in America, as it has in Greece.
 
Old August 19th, 2013 #47
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NS battles with catholicism
http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/rim5.htm
 
Old May 28th, 2020 #48
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I respect other people's beliefs, but why do you seriously think a Christian culture was bad? At least Christianity opposes cultural marxism.
 
Old May 29th, 2020 #49
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I respect other people's beliefs, but why do you seriously think a Christian culture was bad? At least Christianity opposes cultural marxism.
Christianity isn't "bad", it just isn't Aryan (it was an alien religion imposed on our peoples over many centuries).

You can oppose cultural marxism without being Christian.
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Old May 29th, 2020 #50
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Christianity have lot of positive teachenings in general and such religion is heart of white lifestyle in still european white states what mean that their leaders oppose mass immigration form shithole states but I well study them and represents of such political parties can not help us on long term. I can say what is situation on my state where exist chatolic conservatives who support Viktor Orban policy. They are opnely against national-socialism and support USA war veterans in ww2 and claim that they were different than USSR because they are pro-capitalist,democrat and Christian. If this is true,why they cooperate with each other? This is because USA mobilized their soliders with an argument that is Hitler Antichrist with next poster:



Chatolic conservatives openly support Christian non-white mass immigration in cons of muslim immigrants so they are against them just because they see attack on christian culture. They recall on time when european Christians defended Europe by Islamists. Why Christianity is not good religion you can see in arguments on anti-christian authors and I am going to put you some literature for that:
Hitler's Table talk
Natures Eternal Religion
White Man's Bible
Might is Right

Here you can see what your German people think about Christianity. Making debates about why Christianity is not good is waste of time,I remembered when I came on WN forum and start to defend Christianity fanatically so arguments by posters did not interest me until I did not read other part of story by books who had influence on them,I changed my oppinion about that religion and saw that anti-Christian WN's had right.

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Old May 29th, 2020 #51
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Yeah, and I'll add it's impossible to defend a nation against migrants and intermarriage if it is Christian, since a foreigner can just say he is Christian and assimilate into the nation; even in the Middle Ages, Jews or really anyone moving into Christian societies could convert to Christianity and assimilate, in fact conversion was the goal.

Since we want homelands for European peoples that protect against migration and intermarriage, Christianity isn't going to work.
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Christianity isn't "bad", it just isn't Aryan (it was an alien religion imposed on our peoples over many centuries).

You can oppose cultural marxism without being Christian.
Correct, but that does not change the fact of the NS being a Christian movement.
 
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Correct, but that does not change the fact of the NS being a Christian movement.
Here are some quotes from the German Faith Movement espoused by Hauer (never really caught on, but shows the German people were looking for something other than Christianity that resonated with their racial [Aryan] soul):

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The figures of the Edda we feel to be spirit of our spirit, nature of our nature. Therefore we gladly absorb ourselves in these ancient poems, the creations of the Nordic spirit, for we feel that they have been born from the same racial soul from which sprung our own deepest moral and religious impulses. The figures in these poems are truly nearer to us than the figures of the Old Testament, the offspring of so different a racial character. But we should have to regard prayers to Wotan, or hymns and sacrifices to Thor, as a parody of German Faith. What we mean by German Faith is something very near to the present; it is an offspring of today, and adapted to today. At the same time we are convinced that this faith in its fundamental nature is as old as the Nordic soul, just as much as we are convinced that its fundamental nature is diametrically opposed to Christian credulism with its Oriental [i.e. Semitic] bondage to dogma.
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And we who hold the German Faith are convinced that men, and especially the Germans, have the capacity for religious independence, since it is true that everyone has an immediate relation to God, is, in fact, in the depths of his heart one with the eternal Ground of the world. That is why we reject the whole concept of mediation, whether through a sacred person, a sacred book, or a sacred rite. We do not in any way desire to deprive those who still need that sort of thing, of any of their aids to faith. They must live their own religious life. But we are compelled to reject such things, not indeed because we deny the existence of God or of the eternal powers that govern life, but because we have found from experience that it is possible to have immediate contact with those powers.
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I must first of all defend myself against the reproach often made against us, that we are disturbing the unity of Germany. We belong to the number of those Germans to whom nothing is more sacred than the unity of Germany, and we are ready to sacrifice everything for it. But one thing we will not do: we will not betray the German genius, for we know that thereby we should betray the nation... The way to the true unity of the nation will not be found by cowardly silence or by treading softly, but by a courageous struggle for the things that matter. It is our conviction that the unity of Germany is not a fragile vessel over which we must keep anxious watch and ward, but a reality which must be fought for and won over with our life's blood... on behalf of truth and of that inner reality which should bear us on and guide our steps. Good men and true will recognize one another if we fight on these terms. This is the way in which a lasting fellowship will be built up. The fight must be carried on fairly, as befits the German nature and as is worthy of that which is at stake - the holy of holies, faith, God himself, if I may utter that word here.
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As soon as we lay down the conditions for such a fight we see at once the antithesis between an alien faith and the German genius... But even if we overlook the darker side of the Christians defense of their faith, and fix our attention solely on those who are ready to fight honorably according to German tradition, we come up against a spirit which cannot lead to freedom and generosity in religion. In the end, for these Christians too, those of other faiths are heretics, or worse, reprobate and damned, if they do not get converted to Christ. For that spirit is rooted in the very nature of Christianity. It claims to possess the absolute truth, and with that claim is bound up the idea that men can only achieve salvation in one way, through Christ, and that it must send to the stake those whose faith and life do not conform, or pray for them till they quit the error of their ways for the Kingdom of God.
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...we, because of our German Faith, must protest against the claim of the Christian religion to be the religion of the German nation, or the religion of any Aryan nation at all.
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We have recognized that the spiritual plight of our people is due to the alien influence of Near-Eastern and Semitic elements. We are therefore carrying on a pitiless battle against them. We are convinced that there is no power capable of exorcising the evil except our German Faith.
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