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Old November 11th, 2021 #1
Dave Widener
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Default The wrath of the awakened saxon

It was not part of their blood,
It came to them very late,
With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.

They were not easily moved,
They were icy - willing to wait
Till every count should be proved,
Ere the Saxon began to hate.

Their voices were even and low.
Their eyes were level and straight.
There was neither sign nor show
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not preached to the crowd.
It was not taught by the state.
No man spoke it aloud
When the Saxon began to hate.

It was not suddently bred.
It will not swiftly abate.
Through the chilled years ahead,
When Time shall count from the date
That the Saxon began to hate.

- Rudyard Kipling
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Old November 25th, 2021 #2
U. Dunrouse
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He was talking about Germanophobia, wasn't he?

Kipling was a rabid anti-German propagandist during WWI.

"However the world pretends to divide itself,
there are only two divisions in the world to-day -
human beings and Germans.

- Rudyard Kipling, June 1915
Old January 19th, 2022 #3
U. Dunrouse
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Nice poem, but it's a forgery (modified version). Real title: The Beginnings.

The Beginnings

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"The Beginnings" in A Diversity of Creatures

"The Beginnings" is a 1917 poem by the English writer Rudyard Kipling. The poem is about how the English people, although naturally peaceful, slowly become filled with a hate which will lead to the advent of a new epoch.

The first four stanzas have four lines each with alternate rhymes, while the fifth (and final) stanza has five lines. The last line of every stanza ends with "... the English began to hate". The context is the anti-German sentiment in Britain during World War I.[1][2] Kipling was known for never portraying Germans in a positive light, and had been the first to use the word "Hun" as a slur for Germans.[3] The poem was written following the death of his son in that war.

The poem first appeared in Kipling's 1917 collection A Diversity of Creatures, where it accompanies the short story "Mary Postgate". The story had originally been published in 1915, but without the poem.[1]

A modified version of the poem, in which "Saxon" has substituted "English" and the poem retitled: "The Wrath of the Awakened Saxon", has been widely circulated on the internet, often attributed to Kipling and without acknowledging the change from the poem Kipling wrote.


1. Booth, Howard John (2011). The Cambridge Companion to Rudyard Kipling. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. 87. ISBN 9780521199728.
2. "Jingoism was only one front in Rudyard Kipling's war". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 2017-09-15.
3. The Oxford Handbook of British and Irish War Poetry. Oxford: Oxford University Press. 2007. p. 65. ISBN 9780199282661.


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