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Old August 20th, 2017 #1
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Default Nsm usa ditch the swastika

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Old August 20th, 2017 #2
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Can't speak for why they made that choice, but the hysterics over swastikas is no different than the hysterics over the Confederate monuments.

At one time, the Swastika was on Coca Cola bottles, early 1900s coins, and even a mount for the American flag.

All discussed in this 'anti Nazi' propaganda vid, but within the vid is all this info that shows you how the 'anti Nazi' hysterics are the only reason the symbol is rejected:


This symbol is WHITE and the dead Jewish man on the cross (ew, gross) is NOT.

In the vid, the narrator mentions that they are 'all over the world'...but they originate with the Aryans in northern India. It's why Hitler was so interested in Sanskrit and the symbology/religion/history/artifacts from the region.

Sanskrit was translated wrongly into English by many, and was also perverted and translated wrongly into Hindi, the religion of the Vedas greatly perverted into the Hinduism the Indians practice. Whole meaning of things changed into gross misrepresentation of the original. Phrases like 'light emanates all around' become 'cows urinate all around' or something similar. So you can see why Hinduism is such a weird perversion of the Vedas.

It's a very interesting topic, another 'whitewash' of our history.
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Should also note what the word 'Swastika' means.

It means 'counter rotational fractal' in Sanskrit, which is how we know it is OURS. We developed Sanskrit and Latin and German are derived from Sanskrit.

Counter rotational fractal means 'a work in progress', or 'united with one'.

It's why Hitler used it, to 'unite as one' the Aryan people.

Jews no likey that, but their symbol (that has nothing to do with 'king' David btw) is just ducky.
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Should also note what the word 'Swastika' means.

It means 'counter rotational fractal' in Sanskrit, which is how we know it is OURS. We developed Sanskrit and Latin and German are derived from Sanskrit.

Counter rotational fractal means 'a work in progress', or 'united with one'.

It's why Hitler used it, to 'unite as one' the Aryan people.

Jews no likey that, but their symbol (that has nothing to do with 'king' David btw) is just ducky.
Hitler used the Swastika because the Freikorps before him had used it. They had used it because it represented Thor's hammer. Before them, Germanic hero Hermann himself had used it in his defense against the Romans at Teutoburg forest.

"Hermann was the first he gathered the brave, the sign of the Sun wheel Odin then gave"

https://norse-mythology.org/symbols/...modern-misuse/

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Old August 20th, 2017 #6
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Die And Become (Stirb Und Werde)

“Everything goes, everything returns,
Eternally rolls the wheel of life.
Everything dies, everything blooms again,
Eternally rolls the wheel of life.
Everything breaks, everything is mended,
Eternally builds the house of life.
Everyone parts, everyone meets again,
Eternally the cycle of life stays true.”

– F. Nietzsche



"Since time immemorial our forefathers worshipped the Sun as giver of life and warmth. Like a golden disk it shone above them, like a wheel it rolled across the sky.

The Sun determines the passing of every day, and its path is itself a circle. It draws longer and shorter lines around the Earth. At 6 a.m. we can see it in the East, at 12 noon in the South, at 6 p.m. in the West, and at midnight, during the summer, in the far North, where it ends its daily cycle.

Furthermore our ancestors saw the passing of the whole year as points on a wheel. That was the old wheel calendar, which could be seen on the horizon.

During the Winter Solstice the Sun appears in the Arctic North for a short time on the southern point; during Midsummer Day it is on the northern point. The connection of these points gives the North-South line of the horizon. In our latitudes the Sun rises on the Midsummer and Midwinter Days in the Northeast and the Southeast, and then sets in the Northwest and Southwest. The connecting lines of these points form an X: divide the already divided circle into 6 parts (the Malkreuz — marked cross), and from there follows the age old sign of the wheel.

From the far North our ancestors brought with them a foundational experience which became very important for their future and especially for us as we rediscover our heritage. It was as follows:

In the high North, Summer and Winter fought each other as the forces of light and darkness. The dark Winter with its harshness and cold seemed to win over the short, barren Summer. And yet Summer arrived year after year despite the might of the Winter. If its arrival every year hadn’t been a certainty, it would have meant the death of the Nordic Folk. Sad and depressed the Nordic Folk watched the circle of the Sun get smaller and smaller at the end of the Summer. The Sun became weak, old, pale. Its path got shorter, and during Jul time there would only be a few hours of daylight and then it would sink into the cold North Sea and was gobbled up, as if eaten by a monster on Midwinter Day. It was dead and lay in its grave. The question whether the Sun would stay buried was of equal importance to the question whether mankind would live or die.

On Midwinter Day the miracle happened: The Sun rose from its watery grave. It was born like a child, gathered strength, and appeared in front of the celebrating and joyous Folk, who felt that life was given back to them. This happened every year. And every year they celebrated this as their most important festival, their sacred and holy night festival. They greeted the Sun with lit torches to help free it from the ties of the death of Winter. And they celebrated as often as possible the ever increasing circles of the Sun. Fires would burn high on the day of spring on which day and night were of same length, as surely the Sun must have finally won the battle now. And again on Midsummer Night, when the Sun had won its greatest victory and night lasted for only a few hours. This celebration eventually became the most important one of all.



The strong Sun made harvest possible, reason for another feast, after which its strength waned fast and it headed once more towards death, which in turn became new life.

As far back as during the Nordic and Germanic times of the German Folk, people told the tale of the death and resurrection of the Sun in many different tales. We are fortunate to know more about this early culture of our Folk than of some periods much later on in our history. This Sun experience is the subject of nearly all of our pre-Christian fairy-tales, which the brothers Grimm have collected, written down more than a hundred years ago and thereby preserved for all time. The Sun-like princess, killed by a bad, wintry force, resurrected by a young hero: that is the essence of all these stories, which were wonderfully extended and varied.

Man also saw the same laws of Die and become new all around him in Nature. The yearly cycle of the Sun also determines the rhythm of all living things, animals as well as plants. Their whole life revolved around youth and ageing, dying and rebirth. And man’s own life followed this rhythm. The Nordic man knew that his own life came from the loins of a man destined to die. In the knowledge of his own death he handed on life. That was the essence of his beliefs. What he learned from the Sun he saw in his own forests. That’s why he considered trees to be sacred. He imagined that the whole universe was supported by a gigantic tree. This is the old ash tree which is described in the old saga Edda. In its eternity the law of die and become provides constant renewal, eternal rhythm.

Therefore the Nordic man had at his celebrations the fires, the Sun Wheel, and the tree as symbols. In stories we read about the Tree Of Life, which grows on the grave of the mother and protects the young life through its blessings."

https://volkischpaganism.com/2015/07...the-ss-family/

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Hitler used the Swastika because the Freikorps before him had used it. They had used it because it represented Thor's hammer. Before them, Germanic hero Hermann himself had used it in his defense against the Romans at Teutoburg forest.

"Hermann was the first he gathered the brave, the sign of the Sun wheel Odin then gave"

https://norse-mythology.org/symbols/...modern-misuse/
But the symbol originated with the Vedas.

"..The word swasti occurs frequently in the Vedas, and it means "well, good, luck, prosperity.."

Oldest written religion in the world. Aryan.

Even disinfo writers have written about the program Hilter and Himmler had in place to dig for ancient Aryan artifacts.

"..During the 1930s, in the build up to the Second World War, the Nazis established a band of specialists, the SS-Ahnenerbe, under the command of Heinrich Himmler and Hermann Wirth. Their aim was nothing less than to prove the superiority of the Aryan race, and with it the unique right of the German people to rule Europe.."

"..Archaeological expeditions were sent to Iceland, Tibet, Kafiristan, North Africa, Russia, the Far East, Egypt, and even South America and the Arctic. The Nazi Ancestral Heritage Societys chief administrator was Dr Wolfram Sievers.."


From this 'truth with lies' garbage book, but nonetheless the SS-Ahenerbe certainly did exist (not as some 'evil' entity as he'd have one believe):

https://books.google.com/books/about...DQAAQBAJ&hl=en

At any rate, the Sanskrit Vedas came before Odinism/Thor, though Hitler expressed interest throughout Mein Kemp in all pagan White religions, so certainly Odinism is such.

The older story than Thor is this one, from the Vedas:

"..Similarities Between Thor & Other Deities
The conflict between Thor and the World Serpent is similar to the conflict between the Vedic god Indra and the demon-serpent Vritra, which is described in the Vedas. Moreover, Indra is also a sky god, and his weapon is the thunderbolt. The Teutonic god Donar and the Anglo-Saxon Thunor are also storm gods who share many similarities with Thor. The Baltic thunder god Perkunas was also associated with fertility and was normally depicted holding one of his many weapons, including a hammer.."

Basically these White traditions/religions started in North India and had variations all over the world that followed, if we look at the origins of the documents we have, when they were written and how they are similar, and which came first.

Same way we now know there was no historical Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjMLfLGBy7c

Die And Become (Stirb Und Werde)

“Everything goes, everything returns,
Eternally rolls the wheel of life.
Everything dies, everything blooms again,
Eternally rolls the wheel of life.
Everything breaks, everything is mended,
Eternally builds the house of life.
Everyone parts, everyone meets again,
Eternally the cycle of life stays true.”

– F. Nietzsche



"Since time immemorial our forefathers worshipped the Sun as giver of life and warmth. Like a golden disk it shone above them, like a wheel it rolled across the sky.

The Sun determines the passing of every day, and its path is itself a circle. It draws longer and shorter lines around the Earth. At 6 a.m. we can see it in the East, at 12 noon in the South, at 6 p.m. in the West, and at midnight, during the summer, in the far North, where it ends its daily cycle.

Furthermore our ancestors saw the passing of the whole year as points on a wheel. That was the old wheel calendar, which could be seen on the horizon.

During the Winter Solstice the Sun appears in the Arctic North for a short time on the southern point; during Midsummer Day it is on the northern point. The connection of these points gives the North-South line of the horizon. In our latitudes the Sun rises on the Midsummer and Midwinter Days in the Northeast and the Southeast, and then sets in the Northwest and Southwest. The connecting lines of these points form an X: divide the already divided circle into 6 parts (the Malkreuz — marked cross), and from there follows the age old sign of the wheel.

From the far North our ancestors brought with them a foundational experience which became very important for their future and especially for us as we rediscover our heritage. It was as follows:

In the high North, Summer and Winter fought each other as the forces of light and darkness. The dark Winter with its harshness and cold seemed to win over the short, barren Summer. And yet Summer arrived year after year despite the might of the Winter. If its arrival every year hadn’t been a certainty, it would have meant the death of the Nordic Folk. Sad and depressed the Nordic Folk watched the circle of the Sun get smaller and smaller at the end of the Summer. The Sun became weak, old, pale. Its path got shorter, and during Jul time there would only be a few hours of daylight and then it would sink into the cold North Sea and was gobbled up, as if eaten by a monster on Midwinter Day. It was dead and lay in its grave. The question whether the Sun would stay buried was of equal importance to the question whether mankind would live or die.

On Midwinter Day the miracle happened: The Sun rose from its watery grave. It was born like a child, gathered strength, and appeared in front of the celebrating and joyous Folk, who felt that life was given back to them. This happened every year. And every year they celebrated this as their most important festival, their sacred and holy night festival. They greeted the Sun with lit torches to help free it from the ties of the death of Winter. And they celebrated as often as possible the ever increasing circles of the Sun. Fires would burn high on the day of spring on which day and night were of same length, as surely the Sun must have finally won the battle now. And again on Midsummer Night, when the Sun had won its greatest victory and night lasted for only a few hours. This celebration eventually became the most important one of all.



The strong Sun made harvest possible, reason for another feast, after which its strength waned fast and it headed once more towards death, which in turn became new life.

As far back as during the Nordic and Germanic times of the German Folk, people told the tale of the death and resurrection of the Sun in many different tales. We are fortunate to know more about this early culture of our Folk than of some periods much later on in our history. This Sun experience is the subject of nearly all of our pre-Christian fairy-tales, which the brothers Grimm have collected, written down more than a hundred years ago and thereby preserved for all time. The Sun-like princess, killed by a bad, wintry force, resurrected by a young hero: that is the essence of all these stories, which were wonderfully extended and varied.

Man also saw the same laws of Die and become new all around him in Nature. The yearly cycle of the Sun also determines the rhythm of all living things, animals as well as plants. Their whole life revolved around youth and ageing, dying and rebirth. And man’s own life followed this rhythm. The Nordic man knew that his own life came from the loins of a man destined to die. In the knowledge of his own death he handed on life. That was the essence of his beliefs. What he learned from the Sun he saw in his own forests. That’s why he considered trees to be sacred. He imagined that the whole universe was supported by a gigantic tree. This is the old ash tree which is described in the old saga Edda. In its eternity the law of die and become provides constant renewal, eternal rhythm.

Therefore the Nordic man had at his celebrations the fires, the Sun Wheel, and the tree as symbols. In stories we read about the Tree Of Life, which grows on the grave of the mother and protects the young life through its blessings."

https://volkischpaganism.com/2015/07...the-ss-family/
Yes, these are the rational, nature based religions of our people, rather than Semitic garbage thrust upon us by the Council of Nicea.
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Old August 20th, 2017 #9
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Uproot the slandering of the swastika from White minds.



 
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Uproot the slandering of the swastika from White minds.



Yes. Symbols and associations are powerful--they want to be the only ones allowed such a thing.

Interestingly, the 'Star of David' is a pagan symbol, a 'hexagram' in the middle was used to literally curse someone.

It's also a tantric sexual symbol, male is upward triangle and female downward. And it's an occultic 'as above so below' thing that Alastair Crowley was a big fan of.

The Xtian 'fish' is also a sex symbol, that one is Celtic in origin.

These people who adopt these symbols and run around sticking them on things don't even know what they are, it'd be comedic if not so sad.
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Yes. Symbols and associations are powerful--they want to be the only ones allowed such a thing.

Interestingly, the 'Star of David' is a pagan symbol, a 'hexagram' in the middle was used to literally curse someone.

It's also a tantric sexual symbol, male is upward triangle and female downward. And it's an occultic 'as above so below' thing that Alastair Crowley was a big fan of.

The Xtian 'fish' is also a sex symbol, that one is Celtic in origin.

These people who adopt these symbols and run around sticking them on things don't even know what they are, it'd be comedic if not so sad.
The star of "David" is not really the star of "David" at all. As you say, it was originally a Pagan symbol and first used by the Khazars before they converted to Judaism. It has no Biblical antecedents.
 
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The star of "David" is not really the star of "David" at all. As you say, it was originally a Pagan symbol and first used by the Khazars before they converted to Judaism. It has no Biblical antecedents.
Yes, the Jew-against-Jew cockfight over the flag of Israel is interesting. The ones who wanted a Menorah called out the Star of 'David' as having nothing to do with David whatsoever.

The fact that they would be proud of the Menorah, a symbol of Jews murdering each other for their monotheistic god, is as funny as being proud of a Pagan hexagram.

Even the Chassidics in Brooklyn mix Kabbalah and other things in with their brand of Jewish. They have a fear of the 'evil eye' which really points to something pathological imo. Babylonian Talmud had remedies for the 'evil eye', like spitting three times when they think it is after them, lol. They have little sayings to ward it off also.
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In schools across Britain kids are being taught that the star of David represents the divine embrace between god and his chosen people. God reaching down to the Jews and the Jews reaching up to god they thus become entwined.

I remember the day my daughter came home from school and asked if this was correct. I soon put her straight about that bullshit by telling her that "Israel" means to fight with god and men and prevail.

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So he said to him, "What is your name?" And he said, "Jacob." 28He said, "Your name shall no longer be Jacob, but Israel; for you have striven with God and with men and have prevailed."
She asked what does this mean and I said the Jews are engaged in war with everything and everybody and will never stop until they win (prevail)

She took this 'alternative' knowledge back to school and shared it with others. Let's say the school was none too pleased when what they had been teaching was suddenly being challenged in the classroom. Fortunately they were never able to trace the propaganda back to its source. lol
 
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I have long nad my doubts concerning this Jeff Schoep and this latest news confirms my fears! If the NSM has abandoned the swastika, they are no longer National Socialists but POPULARITY SEEKERS!
 
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I have long nad my doubts concerning this Jeff Schoep and this latest news confirms my fears! If the NSM has abandoned the swastika, they are no longer National Socialists but POPULARITY SEEKERS!
What you mean they are actually getting serious??
 
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What you mean they are actually getting serious??
Serious about WHAT?............Capitulation?
The idea that popularity will come to the aid of our folk in this era is wishful thinking....dumping the swastika is a bad move!
 
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