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Old February 1st, 2015 #61
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So you got that goin' for you. Which is nice.

It's 2015. What does a background check on a hypothetical prospective member cost? Like $50? Well worth the headaches saved for any WN organization recruiting publicly. Like the Internet, GPS & cell phones, just another thing I could only dream about having access to in my bygone organizational days.

I would think any 21rst century WN organization in North America would benefit from running checks on all prospective members/associates. I can see no downside.
That certainly is a good idea. Thanks Donnie.
 
Old February 1st, 2015 #62
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That certainly is a good idea. Thanks Donnie.
Just common sense, I would think. The technology is available, it should be utilized. Not foolproof of course, but it would help to weed out those unfit for membership by reason of their criminal record. Most non-cons really don't want to associate in a membership organization with convicted felons. They suffer from a propensity to engage in stupid shit. That's why they're convicted felons in the first place.

If you're attempting to build something which has membership retention (which will be your biggest issue) rates that allow for sustained significant growth, you have to start with a quality foundation. Sounds like a platitude, but it's true.

Hey, float the idea to your local leaders that live in areas that get snow to organize a crew that goes out to white neighborhoods (working class) when snow hits and shovels walkways for the public gratis. That one act is more than the government is going to do for them.

It's a chance for some one-on-one with carefully selected locals, but the main objective would be to document the project on video for use as propaganda by your own social media. Have a party afterwards, and you've got yourself an enjoyable team-building exercise. #PARTYWHITE, baby. Which will contribute to that whole membership retention thing.

Do enough stuff like that in your local area and you get a whole White Hamas-vibe going on. Local is key. People are looking for something to belong to. Check out the Golden Dawn thread here on the forum. Americanize the approach, and you have a winner.

One thing on your side, the field is about as wide open as it can possibly be in North America. The bar is lower than Betty White's tits. The day the National Alliance can put just 200 non-clowns out in public is the day they become the #1 WN organization in the entire fucking United States. That goes for anyone else as well, of course.

Just the anonymous musing of an insomniac, Mike.
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Old February 1st, 2015 #63
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Andy, ZOG hasn't won. Kevin Strom has lived to fight another day. It takes courage to come back and contribute to the Alliance after what he went through.
It doesn't take courage to crawl back to the only group that will accept him. I'd call it desperation.

He can contribute to the WN cause by going away.
 
Old February 1st, 2015 #64
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Just common sense, I would think. The technology is available, it should be utilized. Not foolproof of course, but it would help to weed out those unfit for membership by reason of their criminal record. Most non-cons really don't want to associate in a membership organization with convicted felons. They suffer from a propensity to engage in stupid shit. That's why they're convicted felons in the first place.

If you're attempting to build something which has membership retention (which will be your biggest issue) rates that allow for sustained significant growth, you have to start with a quality foundation. Sounds like a platitude, but it's true.

Hey, float the idea to your local leaders that live in areas that get snow to organize a crew that goes out to white neighborhoods (working class) when snow hits and shovels walkways for the public gratis. That one act is more than the government is going to do for them.

It's a chance for some one-on-one with carefully selected locals, but the main objective would be to document the project on video for use as propaganda by your own social media. Have a party afterwards, and you've got yourself an enjoyable team-building exercise. #PARTYWHITE, baby. Which will contribute to that whole membership retention thing.

Do enough stuff like that in your local area and you get a whole White Hamas-vibe going on. Local is key. People are looking for something to belong to. Check out the Golden Dawn thread here on the forum. Americanize the approach, and you have a winner.

One thing on your side, the field is about as wide open as it can possibly be in North America. The bar is lower than Betty White's tits. The day the National Alliance can put just 200 non-clowns out in public is the day they become the #1 WN organization in the entire fucking United States. That goes for anyone else as well, of course.

Just the anonymous musing of an insomniac, Mike.
Donnie -- those are all perfectly legal, valuable, and extremely doable activities that anyone can do, and puts pro-white activism in a totally different light, in the sense that it's not at all difficult to execute. I like the way you think. There are many who believe it's a pain in the ass to do activism these days, or they do it stealthily - putting flyers under windshields at night, that sort of thing. Of course I understand their concerns -- police corruption by Jewish organizations has continued year after year with subtlety, and many WN's are intimidated or don't know to what extent they can take their activism without harassment, so they land in prison or receive a hefty fine.

So an activist who wishes to do explicit pro-white activism in public must be prepared and be smart enough to know what is acceptable in his jurisdiction. Of course, I must re-iterate that it's always a slippery slope, so being prepared for anything is key. Plus it definitely helps to gather at least 5-10 people to demonstrate with you. There is always strength in numbers.

But the activism you describe is very personable where there can be plenty of opportunity for one-on-one recruitment -- which IMO is the best type of pro-white activism. Of course, public demonstrations have their place, but more thought and planning must go into that with the backing of a legitimate/serious organization, and is not ideal for an individual.

The National Alliance has always wanted to attract intellectual people -- scientists, graphic designers, architects, artists, etc. -- but we also need blue-collar working class type people who are independent-minded, so we can build our middle-class cadres and multiply the chance to recruit more intellectuals. Also, the blue-collar working class White man is just as important because among them can we find individuals with courage -- which is sorely lacking in our people today.

One-on-one activism also has its pitfalls, but it's a lot safer when done in local, good-spirited fashion as in gathering a group and snow-plowing a neighborhood when a snow-storm hits, as you suggest. In my experience I always thought that the more intelligent someone is, the more independent-minded he is, but that's definitely not the case in many situations. I'm sure there is a correlation between intelligence and being a free-thinker, but I believe it's very slim, or not too much higher than the average White -- who is much more inclined to be free-thinking.

The National Alliance right now is still in the phase of re-building and repairing all the damage done from '05 to 2014. We're starting to grow in membership, albeit slowly, but by years-end I fully expect we'll re-gain local units and have courageous, intelligent unit coordinators. I'll float the idea of background checks on members to the leadership. Again, it can prove beneficial, so not a bad idea at all.

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Old February 1st, 2015 #65
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OK I'll say what others will not. Any one that follows or promotes a pedo is a piece of crap.

If I caught that creep stalking my kid, sending flowers or poems He would be pushing up hay in someones back 40.

Are WNs so damn desperate they will follow perverts and con men?
 
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OK I'll say what others will not. Any one that follows or promotes a pedo is a piece of crap.

If I caught that creep stalking my kid, sending flowers or poems He would be pushing up hay in someones back 40.

Are WNs so damn desperate they will follow perverts and con men?
I don't promote pedophiles. I think they're the ultimate scum of the earth.
 
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The Nature of the Beast

By Dr. William Pierce; originally published in the tabloid Attack!, Issue No. 2, 1970

WHAT IS THE ESTABLISHMENT? Why, that's easy, you say: the Establishment is those persons, taken collectively, who run the System. But who are "those persons"? What are their names? What, if anything, do they have in common? How did they get into the Establishment in the first place? Is one born into it? Is it something like a fraternity or a secret society? Is great wealth a prerequisite for admission? Or is membership in the Establishment a prerequisite for owning great wealth in America?

There is a great deal of confusion on these questions because of the sloppy but prevalent tendency to equate prestige and status -- i.e., social rank -- with power in our society. Things don't necessarily work that way. It is clear that the one meaningful criterion for distinguishing members of the Establishment from non-members is power -- power to make independent decisions which directly affect the operation of the System. In applying this criterion, however, it is essential to distinguish between apparent power, or power of a purely formal sort, and real power.

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The Organizational Nexus

An Editorial by Dr. William Pierce
From Attack! Issue No. 65, 1978

PROBABLY THE GREATEST piece of foolishness current in America, after the notion that all the country’s citizens are inherently “equal,” is the belief that they are collectively capable of governing themselves wisely.

Wisdom and will are individual, not collective attributes, yet so steeped have we all become in democratic mythology that we personify the crowd, imagining that it possesses both. We seem to believe, along with the late Chairman Mao, that the ultimate repository of civic virtue is “the masses.”

The populist daydream, indulged in by rightists and leftists alike, is of a long-suffering, commonsensical American citizenry which, if left alone by the gangsters in Washington, could manage to keep the country’s wheels turning, maintain the common defense, and restore domestic tranquility, all through a sort of popular consensus.

The daydreamers of the right see the current enthusiasm for tax-reduction referendums as a manifestation of the people’s ability to spontaneously correct the excesses of government, just as those of the left saw a similar manifestation in Richard Nixon’s plunge from favor and consequent resignation after the Watergate revelations. The people, they think, will tolerate only so much foolishness or wickedness on the part of their leaders before rising up in their righteous wrath and homespun wisdom and setting things right again.

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American Dissident Voices broadcast of February 7, 2015:

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Congratulations to Will Williams for assuming the position of chairman of the National Alliance. I have known Will for a couple of decades or more and worked with him on the staff of the NA back in the 1990s. He is well qualified for the job.

Those who are looking for a membership organization to join should check out the NA.
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OK I'll say what others will not. Any one that follows or promotes a pedo is a piece of crap.

If I caught that creep stalking my kid, sending flowers or poems He would be pushing up hay in someones back 40.

Are WNs so damn desperate they will follow perverts and con men?
But , but, but....he is an intellectual pedo....makes all the difference to some people you know.
 
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Congratulations to Will Williams for assuming the position of chairman of the National Alliance. I have known Will for a couple of decades or more and worked with him on the staff of the NA back in the 1990s. He is well qualified for the job.

Those who are looking for a membership organization to join should check out the NA.
Strom's position is utterly untenable. He is like the proverbial elephant in the room. Any 'man' who sends angora sweaters and poems for marriage to a 9 year old needs his bollocks chopped off IMHO.

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Old February 8th, 2015 #73
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Strom's position is utterly untenable. He is like the proverbial elephant in the room. Any 'man' who sends angora sweaters and poems for marriage to a 9 year old needs his bollocks chopped off IMHO.
This.

It's much worse than I thought. He isn't doing technical work, he's the spokesman. Instead of moving him to a support role in the background they're getting even more in your face about it, assuming no one will want to be "divisive" about this great "activism thread."

The NA has to purge Strom or it's dead.
 
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This.

It's much worse than I thought. He isn't doing technical work, he's the spokesman. Instead of moving him to a support role in the background they're getting even more in your face about it, assuming no one will want to be "divisive" about this great "activism thread."

The NA has to purge Strom or it's dead.


Well, we don't know for sure if Strom was/is guilty. He was jailed, but that doesn't mean he did it. A WN is an easy target for the Feds. He may have been railroaded.



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Well, we don't know for sure if Strom was/is guilty. He was jailed, but that doesn't mean he did it. A WN is an easy target for the Feds. He may have been railroaded.
I think Sam's point goes beyond the legitimacy of the charges to the ramifications of the public relations debacle they have created, which is a fact in itself.

My own perspective, at the moment, goes further still. I'm not sure there's a future for WN membership organizations even if they have Jesus Christ as a spokesperson.

Even with Donnie in Ohio in our corner, I don't think we can expect to outspend the Federal Reserve.

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Well, we don't know for sure if Strom was/is guilty. He was jailed, but that doesn't mean he did it. A WN is an easy target for the Feds. He may have been railroaded.
He was Guilty as charged.

But that fact is moot. He is on the sex offender register for 15 years, he pled quilty to the charge. He is already labeled by the SPLC as a "Child Porn Enthusiast".. He is up-front-and-center for Will William's NA producing weekly broadcasts. In what way don't people understand that this is bad for the image and for recruiting good decent White people??????
 
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He was Guilty as charged.

But that fact is moot. He is on the sex offender register for 15 years, he pled quilty to the charge. He is already labeled by the SPLC as a "Child Porn Enthusiast".. He is up-front-and-center for Will William's NA producing weekly broadcasts. In what way don't people understand that this is bad for the image and for recruiting good decent White people??????
This is the same waste of time argument we see against the association of our cause with Hitler, the swastika, holocaust denial, lack of indoor plumbing, bad wardrobe selection and living with our moms.

Sooner or later, if we're going to survive, it's probably going to come down to a choice between race and respectability.

Besides, when was the last time you actually met one of these "good, decent White people" you're interested in attracting?

Personally, I'm developing a preference for the crazy sons-of-bitches.
 
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This is the same waste of time argument we see against the association of our cause with Hitler, the swastika, holocaust denial, lack of indoor plumbing, bad wardrobe selection and living with our moms.

Sooner or later, if we're going to survive, it's probably going to come down to a choice between race and respectability.

Besides, when was the last time you actually met one of these "good, decent White people" you're interested in attracting?

Personally, I'm developing a preference for the crazy sons-of-bitches.
I hope not to who have sexual preferences for 9 year old little girls Jimmy?
 
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I hope not to who have sexual preferences for 9 year old little girls Jimmy?
Where else are we going to find good decent White people?

I'm kidding, of course. Let me try to explain myself this way, James.

When we allow tens of thousands of White girls and women to be raped, tortured and murdered by niggers each year for decades, how much sense does it make for us to get all bent out of shape because one White guy sent a love poem and an angora sweater to a nine year old girl?

Sure, its weird as hell, but it just doesn't get me that worked up.

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He was Guilty as charged.

But that fact is moot. He is on the sex offender register for 15 years, he pled quilty to the charge.

He probably pled guilty to avoid 20 years in prison. I'm not sure I trust a conviction of a WN. It's too easy to get.



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