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Old November 24th, 2015 #1
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https://www.rt.com/news/323262-putin...g-plane-syria/

Putin: Downing of Russian jet over Syria stab in the back by terrorist accomplices

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Turkey backstabbed Russia by downing the Russian warplane and acted as accomplices of the terrorists, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.

The plane was hit by a Turkish warplane as it was travelling 1 km away from the Turkish border, Putin said. The plane posed no threat to Turkish national security, he stressed.

Putin said the plane was targeting terrorist targets in the Latakia province of Syria, many of whom came from Russia.

Russia noticed of the flow of oil from Syrian territory under the control of terrorists to Turkey, Putin said.

Apparently, IS now not only receives revenue from the smuggling of oil, but also has the protection of a nation’s military, Putin said. This may explain why the terrorist group is so bold in taking acts of terrorism across the world, he added.

The incident will have grave consequences for Russia’s relations with Turkey, Putin warned.

The fact that Turkey did not try to contact Russia in the wake of the incident and rushed to call a NATO meeting instead is worrisome, Putin said. It appears that Turkey want NATO to serve the interests of IS, he added.
 
Old November 24th, 2015 #2
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https://www.rt.com/op-edge/323252-tu...an-plane-su24/

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In shooting down a Russian jet operating over Syria, Turkey’s nefarious role in the Syrian conflict has intensified. It also presents a damning indictment of the West's seriousness in confronting extremism and terrorism.

n the aftermath of the spate of ISIS atrocities – first the downing of the Russian passenger plane, Metrojet Flight 7K9268 over the Sinai at the end of October, killing all 224 on board, followed by the killing of 43 civilians in Beirut in a suicide bomb attack, and most recently the slaughter of 130 people in Paris in multiple suicide bombings and shootings – we now know who is serious about confronting this medieval death cult and who is not.

More, we are starting to uncover those who speak the language of anti-terrorism while in practice working to facilitate and support it.

Turkey is a key culprit in this regard. A murky relationship has long existed between Ankara, ISIS, al Nusra, and other jihadi groups operating in Syria. Indeed, on the most basic level, without their ability to pass back and forth across the Turkish border at will, those groups could not have operated as easily and effectively as they had until Russia intervened.

However, according to a report by David L Phillips of Columbia University, Turkey’s support for extremist groups operating in Syria, including ISIS has been even more extensive than previously thought. Drawing on a wide variety of sources, Phillips reveals that the Turkish government, a member of NATO and a key Western ally, has been involved in helping ISIS with recruitment, training, and has provided it with intelligence and safe havens and sanctuary. Most recently it has been exposed as a major customer for stolen Syrian oil, supplied by the terrorist group.

Perhaps the most damning evidence contained in the report when it comes to Turkey’s role, is in relation to its actions and inaction when it came to the siege of the Kurdish town of Kobani on the Syrian-Turkish border in September and October of 2014.

As Phillips reveals: “Anwar Moslem, Mayor of Kobani, said on September 19, 2014: ‘Based on the intelligence we got two days before the breakout of the current war, trains full of forces and ammunition, which were passing by north of Kobani, had an-hour-and-ten-to-twenty-minute-long stops in these villages: Salib Qaran, Gire Sor, Moshrefat Ezzo. There is evidence, witnesses, and videos about this. Why is ISIS strong only in Kobani's east? Why is it not strong either in its south or west? Since these trains stopped in villages located in the east of Kobani, we guess they had brought ammunition and additional force for the ISIS.’ In the second article on September 30, 2014, a CHP delegation visited Kobani, where locals claimed that everything from the clothes ISIS militants wear to their guns comes from Turkey.”

The world will never forget how, during the siege of Kobani, as its Kurdish defenders mounted a heroic defense of the town against thousands of ISIS fighters, armed with tanks and artillery, Turkish tanks and troops sat just over the border and did nothing to intervene.

Likewise, no one will forget that earlier this year Turkey carried out airstrikes against those same Kurdish volunteers of the PKK/YPG within Syria, while depicting them as terrorists. Turkey’s oppression of its Kurdish minority going back many years is of course a matter of record.

President Erdogan and his government has undeniably been a key in the destabilization of Syria, doing its utmost to foment regime change. As with the Saudis and other Gulf monarchies, before Russia’s intervention Turkey was hovering over Syria as a vulture hovers over a dying animal, waiting for it to perish before descending to feed on its carcass.

The fact that Turkey remains a key Western ally exposes the moral high ground from which Washington and its allies have lectured Russia over its role in Syria as nothing more than a dung-heap of hypocrisy.

If the West was serious about confronting terrorism, was serious about returning stability to a region it has helped to set on fire, it would reconsider its close ties to both Turkey and the Saudis, whose governments between them have been wading in the river of blood they have helped shed these past four years. Turkey’s claim that the Russian military aircraft it shot down had encroached on its airspace and ignored multiple warnings should be treated with the credibility it deserves, especially when we recall that prior to Russia’s participation in the conflict, Turkey’s violation of Syrian airspace and the Syrian border was happening on a regular basis.

With Russia’s presence in Syria has put paid to Erdogan’s objective of toppling the Syrian government, we begin to discern its efforts to enlist the support of NATO in putting pressure on Russia to desist. It also helps to explain why the West continues to refuse President Putin’s call for cooperation and unity in the effort to eradicate ISIS and other extremist groups massacring and slaughtering their way across the country, with the intention of turning it into a mass grave.

In the wake of the recent spate of ISIS atrocities unleashed against Russian, Lebanese, and French civilians, the grounds for refusing to enter such an alliance are as indefensible as Turkey’s role in the conflict and its most recent action in shooting down a Russian aircraft.

As the man said: “Those who sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind.”
 
Old November 24th, 2015 #3
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Default Russian rescue helicopter shot down!

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...ng-downed-jets

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/russi...t-down-6891003

A RUSSIAN helicopter has been downed while searching for the pilots who ejected from their burning jet, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights has confirmed.
 
Old November 24th, 2015 #4
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Russian Su-24 pilots shot dead while parachuting over Syria - Turkmen militia

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As the two Russian pilots descended by parachute after the Su-24 jet was downed, both were shot dead by Turkmen forces, Reuters reports citing a deputy commander of a Turkmen brigade in Syria.

"Both of the pilots were dead on retrieval. Our comrades opened fire into the air and they died in the air," Alpaslan Celik, a deputy commander of a Syrian Turkmen brigade said.

He was speaking near the Syrian village of Yamadi, according to Reuters. Celik held what he said was a piece of a pilot's parachute.

A graphic video posted earlier on social media purported to show a Russian pilot lying on the ground surrounded by a group of men praising Allah.

The men reportedly regretted they hadn’t burned him on the spot.

The video was sent by a rebel group operating in the northwestern area of Syria, where groups including the Free Syrian Army are active but Islamic State has no known presence.

Jahed Ahmad, a representative of the 10th Brigade in the Coast, the rebel group that attacked the pilots, told AP that at least one of the Russian pilots was dead upon landing.

A Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down by Turkish fighter jets near the Turkish-Syrian border on Tuesday.

Turkey said it was rightfully acting to defend its sovereignty as the warplane had violated its airspace and hadn’t responded to warnings.

Moscow has denied Turkey’s claims, saying its plane was downed in Syrian airspace, where Russia is conducting an air operation against Islamic State and other terrorists.

Vladimir Putin called Ankara’s actions “a stab in the back delivered by accomplices of the terrorists,” adding that it will have severe consequences for relations between Russia and Turkey.
 
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"A Russian pilot," a voice is heard saying as a group of men gather around him. "God is great," a voice says.

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Old November 24th, 2015 #6
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Global markets fall as Turkey shoots down Russian jet

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European, Turkish and Russian markets plunged after confirmation that Turkey had shot down a Russian jet near its border with Syria and Moscow warning Ankara of "serious consequences".

Turkey’s Borsa Istanbul 100 was down almost four percent after Russian President Vladimir Putin called Ankara's action a “stab in the back made by accomplices of the terrorists.” He also warned Turkey of “very serious consequences” for relations.

The Russian stock market also fell on the news from Syria. As of 6:00pm MSK, the ruble-traded MICEX index was down 3.30 percent, while the dollar-denominated RTS index fell 3.56 percent. On Monday, the MICEX skyrocketed to 1,865 points, its highest level in seven years.

The crisis also affected European stock markets. London's FTSE was down 1.19 percent as of 3:00pm GMT. The markets in France and Germany were losing 1.90 and 1.42 percent, respectively.

The Turkish lira is the worst performer among the currencies. As of 3:00pm GMT the lira was down 0.87 percent against the US dollar.

Earlier in the day, a Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down by Turkish F16 fighter as it was conducting a bombing mission against militant targets in northern Syria near the Turkish border.

Ankara claims the plane strayed into Turkish airspace and did not respond to warnings.

Russia insists the jet was flying a kilometer within Syrian territory and crashed four kilometers inside Syria.
 
Old November 24th, 2015 #7
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This could be the ball that sets WW3 into motion. If NATO gets involved in the region and acts against Russia, that would draw the US and EU into the conflict to back up NATO. Russia vs NATO, EU, US and Turkey is not a fight that Russia could win. The question now is whether Putin is going to double down on his efforts, or take a step back? The Zionists have made it clear that they will not allow Assad to remain in power, regardless of the costs.

The only motive I could think Turkey might have for shooting down a Russian jet is so they can wear NATO and the EU's balls around their neck - they've been trying to become a member of both for awhile now. Killing Russians gets brownie points with both parties.
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Old November 24th, 2015 #8
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Turkey's actually been a member of NATO for decades, which makes it all the more serious. I do wonder what the turks are trying to accomplish with such an aggressive act. The Russians should send in ground forces to completely obliterate the ISIS filth as a response to this.

Turkey's links to ISIS:

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Furthermore, there is evidence that some Turkish officials have certain links to high-ranking ISIL members, he notes, citing an unnamed Western official familiar to intelligence sources on the matter.

"The same official confirmed that Turkey, a longstanding member of NATO, is not just supporting ISIS [ISIL], but also other jihadist groups, including Ahrar al-Sham and Jabhat al-Nusra, al-Qaeda's affiliate in Syria. 'The distinctions they draw [with other opposition groups] are thin indeed,' said the official. 'There is no doubt at all that they militarily cooperate with both'," the British journalist states.

The remarks made by the unnamed officials were also confirmed by a leak of authenticated official documents of the Turkish military in January 2015. The documents clearly indicated that Turkey's intelligence agents were involved in transferring missiles, mortars and anti-aircraft ammunition "to the al-Qaeda terror organization" in Syria.

According to some ISIL suspects, the Turkish national military intelligence organization (MIT) started providing Syrian Islamists with weapons as early as in 2011.

On the other hand, the Turkish Statistics Institute reported that Ankara had provided at least one million dollars in arms to Syrian rebels between 2013 and 2014. Needless to say, the revelation directly contradicts Ankara's own "official policy of denial."

"Weapons included grenades, heavy artillery, anti-aircraft guns, firearms, ammunition, hunting rifles and other weapons - but the Institute declined to identify the specific groups receiving the shipments," Ahmed emphasizes.

At the same time, it was Turkey that played a key role in facilitating ISIL's oil trade.
"Turkey has facilitated over $1 billion worth of black market ISIS [ISIL] oil sales to date," the British journalist stresses.
http://sputniknews.com/politics/2015...smuggling.html
 
Old November 24th, 2015 #9
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Isnt this attack isis thing chasing the puck so to speak? In fact, it is. I dont think ANY of these world leaders want a full scale ww3, its bad for business. My gutt has always told me Putin is making back door deals.

If Putin was serious, he would have sent in troops to smash nwo.....oops, i meant isis, back when they were the syrian freedom fighters, fighting for democracy!

The puck was struck back when the first zionist meeting took place over 100 years ago. The same usual suspects, jews and the monarchies with their heads up their ass. Not one of these european monarchies, over the past thousand years to finalize the jewish question when they had those kikes on the run.

Its almost unbelievable.
 
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Not even Hitler, since the holocaust is a lie.
 
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Obongo speaking right now, got to get isis! Is there any hand written speech this nigger reads off that isnt written by a kike? Who writes his speeches?
 
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Hollande with his churchill'esq speech. Is this guy a kike?
 
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Lol hollande even finds the time to slip in the global warming meme.
 
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Rinnnnng.....hello?

Yeah putin said ok.

Ok, ill let turkey know. Today?

Yep.

A bit sudden, no?

Yep.

Lol those speech writers are gonna be pissed.

Too fuck'n bad......click!
 
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Friends of terrorists are starting to come out on the light.
 
Old November 24th, 2015 #16
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The ape has spoken.

Obama supports Turkey after it shot down Russian jet

Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:23PM
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President Barack Obama has expressed US support for Turkey after it shot down a Russian warplane near Syria-Turkey border, saying Ankara has the right to defend its airspace.

"Turkey, like every country, has a right to defend its territory and its airspace," Obama said on Tuesday at the White House during joint press conference with visiting French President Francois Hollande.

The US president also warned Russia against any escalation.

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11...ey-Russian-jet
 
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approximately three White Russians killed in Syria thanks to the Turk filth.

One Dead as Russian Mi-8 Helicopter Attacked During Rescue Mission in Syria

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A Russian Mi-8 helicopter came under attack while conducting a search and rescue operation in Syria, one naval infantry soldier is reported killed and the aircraft also received damage.

The Russian General Staff said that two Mi-8s were involved in the operation to save the crew of the downed Su-24.

The helicopter is reported to have been shot down, its crew evacuated to the Russian base at Hmeymim.

"A search and rescue operation involving two Mi-8 helicopters was carried out, charged with evacuating the pilots from the landing site. During the operation, as a result of small-arms fire, one of the helicopters was damaged, and forced to make a landing on neutral territory. One naval infantry soldier was killed," Lieutenant-General Sergei Rudskoi, the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, told reporters on Tuesday.

http://sputniknews.com/world/2015112...ia-russia.html
 
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I hope Putin is smart enough not to bite this hook. He has other ways of retaliating against turkey, namely cutting off their oil and natural gas imports from Russia, and disrupting their imports from ISIS.
 
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Old November 24th, 2015 #20
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Russia, NATO at the Brink of War - Putin's JFK Moment

http://russia-insider.com/en/politic...moment/ri11417

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With today's shoot-down of a Russian SU-24 by a Turkish F-16, the conflict in Syria has entered a very dangerous escalation.

Turkey is a member of the NATO alliance. Let us therefore not mince words: A NATO state has just attacked Russia. Perhaps not since the downing of a an American U-2 over Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962, has the world been so close to a third world war.

At that time, the US Joint Chiefs of Staff as well as most of John F. Kennedy's cabinet supported retaliatory bombing and invasion of Cuba. Had such taken place, it would have compelled Soviet leader Nikita Khruschev to seize West Berlin. That in turn would have led to further retaliation by NATO. Within a very short time full-scale war, including nuclear exchange, could have taken place.

Fortunately, Kennedy and his closest circle of advisors were able to foresee the progression of events, resist the warhawks, establish direct communication with Khruschev and find a negotiated settlement to the crisis. Had he reacted rashly or buckled under the pressure for war, it is doubtful the world would exist today.

Now Putin faces his “Kennedy moment.” Will he take the obvious course - one might say even the justifiable course - and bomb the Syrian [meant Turkish - R.T.] base from which the attacking fighters came? Such a move would almost certainly lead to war between Russia and NATO. Will he apply sanctions against Turkey, possibly leading to a ramping up of the sanctions against Russia from Turkey's allies?

Or will he choose the wisest, but perhaps the most difficult course - seemingly doing nothing. A diplomatic offensive now will humiliate and isolate Turkey, and thoroughly discredit the Western position and its covert (with Turkey's attack on Russia, overt) support of Islamic terror.


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It may not be the most macho or ostensibly “right” response - especially as far as his domestic audience is concerned - but it is in fact, the strongest one. It takes a strong leader, one with vision, to hold back – not only to act, but not to act, when necessary.
We already know Vladimir Putin will take the high road. He has done so countless times, when everyone else seemed to have gone totally insane.

He did not invade Ukraine and seize Kiev, when Washington installed a hostile regime directly on Russia's border. His response was limited to securing Sevastopol against the US 6th fleet, and protecting the physical existence of Russian-speakers.

He, along with then President Medvedev, did not annex Georgia, or topple Saakashvili, when the latter recklessly used force against South Ossetia, violating cease-fire agreements and killing Russian citizens. Russia neutralized the Georgian army, then retreated to its bases.

Putin decisively defused the previous attempt in 2013, to bomb and invade Syria through the skillful use of diplomacy, securing from Assad an unprecedented agreement to declare and destroy all chemical weapons. (Nobel committee - are you blind?)

During the last 15 years Putin has not used force, or even the threat of force, to prevent any country from joining the anti-Russian NATO alliance, even as it expanded up to Russia's doorstep. Rather, Moscow persistently and publicly upholds the right of sovereign states to make independent choices.

Just as in 1962, when the world owed its existence to the reserve of Kennedy and Khruschev, today we in no small measure owe the peace of Europe and the world, to the patient determination of Russia's president.

And one may rest assured that whatever Putin's response to this crisis, it will be one we have come to expect from Europe's last real statesman.
 
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