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Old February 17th, 2014 #1
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Switzerland Draws a Line on Immigration
February 17, 2014 by Bruce Bawer (queer)

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-Switzerland is a small, prosperous country which during World War II managed not to become part of the Nazi empire and during the postwar era has succeeded in staying out of the EU. Nonetheless, like other European countries whose citizens have voted to stay out of the EU, Switzerland – in exchange for participation in free trade with EU members – has signed treaties that subject its citizens to EU regulations. Among those treaties is a seven-year-old agreement that grants most EU citizens the right to live and work in Switzerland.

In a referendum on February 14, however, the Swiss electorate voted by a slim majority for a proposal by the Swiss People’s Party (SVP) that will invalidate that treaty. The Washington Post‘s Anthony Faiola, in his report on the vote, provided a fine example of the way in which the left-wing media routinely reduce real-life concerns to obnoxious caricatures, all the while acting as if the people they’re condescendingly mocking are the ones purveying the caricatures: the Swiss vote, he wrote, was the result of the mischievous efforts of “right-wing populists” who worry that their “idyllic Swiss lifestyle” is “being trampled by hordes of foreign newcomers.” Faiola went on to compare Swiss voters to “the paramilitaries of the Golden Dawn” in Greece and the “anti-immigrant, anti-Roma and anti-Semitic” members of the radical-right Jobbik Party in Hungary. The New York Times took a similar approach: “Far-right parties with anti-immigrant platforms in France, the Netherlands and Norway have gained strength in recent years,” wrote Melissa Eddy and Stephen Castle (the Norway reference obviously being to the center-right Progress Party, which is closer to the American political center than any other party in Norway).

Never mind the reality: Switzerland – where about a quarter of the legal residents were born abroad and 37 percent of residents are foreign-born or have two foreign-born parents – is one of the two countries in the world with the highest percentage of immigrants. (The other is Austria.) The SVP – the same party that sponsored the 2009 law banning minarets – said during the run-up to the plebiscite that the 80,000 EU citizens who are now moving to Switzerland every year (a number equal to 1% of the country’s population) amounts to approximately “ten times the initial predictions back in 2007,” reported the Telegraph.

It doesn’t take much imagination to recognize what a massive burden this flood of immigrants represents – and what a social and culural transformation it entails. As the Telegraph itself seems to acknowledge, the schools, hospitals, public-transport system, and housing market in Switzerland have been “struggling to cope” with the influx. This sort of rapid, dramatic metamorphosis is enough to pose a risk to any country’s social, cultural, and economic stability. Add to this the fact that citizens of Romania and Bulgaria (including innumerable gypsies who, frankly, aren’t looking for honest work but for pockets to pick, houses to plunder, and public property to trash) are now free to settle anywhere they want in the EU – or in countries, like Switzerland and Norway, which have open-border arrangements with the EU. Under such circumstances, the action by Swiss voters isn’t just eminently understandable; it is, quite simply, the responsible thing to do.

Yet such facts on the ground, however compelling, matter little in Brussels. What matters there is the open-borders ideology – and the consolidation and expansion of EU power. The Swiss vote, warned the Telegraph, was “likely to cause anger” among Eurocrats. Faiola noted that the vote had “brought threats of retaliation Monday from leaders across the continent.” German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier sniffed that “Switzerland must realise that cherry picking with the EU is not a long-term strategy.” Luxembourg Foreign Minister Jean Asselborn vowed that the Swiss would face “consequences”: “You can’t have privileged access to the European internal market and on the other hand, dilute free circulation.” You would’ve thought that EU-Swiss relations have benefited only the Swiss all these years – that they’re the ungrateful beneficiaries of EU largesse. On the contrary, Switzerland contributes some $600 million a year to the EU budget and dutifully subjects itself to countless EU controls and directives, even though its voters long ago told the EU to take a hike.

But that’s not enough for the EU masters. They can’t stand that a rich country like Switzerland (Norway, too) isn’t fully within its grasp. And for Bern to withdraw itself from the EU’s clutches in the matter of immigration is more than the power-hungry men and women in Brussels can stand. “The message is clear today: free movement of people is a sacred right for the EU,” said European Commission spokeswoman Pia Ahrenkilde-Hansen.

Yes, “sacred.” How interesting to learn that this, of all things, is what’s “a sacred right for the EU.” We know, after all, that freedom of expression doesn’t make the cut: in 2006, the European Commissioner for External Relations and European Neighborhood Policy (i.e. Flunky in Charge of EU-Arab Relations) told journalists that self-censorship for the sake of “mutual respect and understanding” between cultures was “a vital part of the fight against racism and xenophobia” and that freedom of expression doesn’t mean “the freedom to insult or offend”; in 2007, the EU made “incitement of racism, xenophobia, or hatred against a racial, ethnic, or religious group” punishable by up to three years behind bars; the EU’s 2007 Lisbon Treaty provides for automatic arrest and extradition of persons accused of racism and xenophobia.”

So, no, freedom of speech isn’t “sacred” in the EU. What’s “sacred” is the right of busloads of gypsies to cross into Switzerland and start gathering up goodies. What person in his right mind wants to belong to a congregation for which this is what’s holy? Good for Switzerland’s voters. More power to them.

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Old February 18th, 2014 #2
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The good things about the SVP are:
  • they are the only one to really support federalism, they oppose government centralization,
  • they oppose what goes against the sovereignty of Switzerland,
  • they are not focused on religion,
  • they support farmers and a people-oriented economy and not a profit-oriented economy.

However, they lack political philosophy. During the latest referendum campaign the only thing that was talked about was the impact on the economy and our relationship with the EU. Nothing about globalization and cultural differences between Swiss and immigrants.

And, of course, they are not a WN movement so they will never mention the Jews...

In Switzerland, the closest there is to a real WN political movement is the PNOS (Partei National Orientierter Schweizer). The thing is that I rarely hear about them (in part because most of their activity happens in the German-speaking part of Switzerland). In the last federal elections, they were present in only two states: Bern (0.3% of the votes) and Vaud (0.08%).
 
Old February 18th, 2014 #3
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The good things about the SVP are:
  • they are the only one to really support federalism, they oppose government centralization,
  • they oppose what goes against the sovereignty of Switzerland,
  • they are not focused on religion,
  • they support farmers and a people-oriented economy and not a profit-oriented economy.

However, they lack political philosophy. During the latest referendum campaign the only thing that was talked about was the impact on the economy and our relationship with the EU. Nothing about globalization and cultural differences between Swiss and immigrants.

And, of course, they are not a WN movement so they will never mention the Jews...

In Switzerland, the closest there is to a real WN political movement is the PNOS (Partei National Orientierter Schweizer). The thing is that I rarely hear about them (in part because most of their activity happens in the German-speaking part of Switzerland). In the last federal elections, they were present in only two states: Bern (0.3% of the votes) and Vaud (0.08%).
Well, they should have a thread too if you come across any info about them. Also, isn't SVP run by a jew billionaire? Naturally it wouldn't talk about race. it sounds very neoconny. In the same vein as the article I posted, which is written by an American queer for jew Horowitz's publication FrontPage.
 
Old February 18th, 2014 #4
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Clare Spark • a day ago −
Multiculturalism is institutionalized in Hollywood and in the universities and schools. It was invented by Germans and is crypto-racist, but dogma now in the progressive schools, though it is mystical, organicist, and subtly anti-American. See http://clarespark.com/2011/03/.... "Index to multiculturalism blogs." Liberal elites put this policy into power, not even members of the clamoring non-whites who hoped for upward mobility. It is not too late to turn back the clock and to stand firm against racism, crypto- or overt.
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Alex_Linder Clare Spark • a day ago
It was invented by jews. Get your facts right. It's a genocidal policy pushed by jews in all white nations. Jews have been known as "nation-wreckers" for 2,000 years.
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bigjulie Alex_Linder • a day ago
Apparently America was spared. I shudder to think about where we might be without our Jewish immigrants! The only nations that were "wrecked" by jews were those where they immigrated, prospered despite deep and senseless prejudices against them, and ultimately were harassed and hounded by the jealousy and envy of non-Jews over their abilities to survive and prosper, despite the ignorant and unfounded prejudices against them! We are much the better nation for our Jewish immigrants!
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Western_Canadian Alex_Linder • a day ago
No doubt this lout, ignorant and hate filled, is planning a REALLY big celebration of hitlers birthday, complete with a cake in the shape of a death camp.
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bigjulie Alex_Linder • an hour ago
Sorry Alex, but your comment is about as anti-Semitic as they come. My understanding is that it was invented by people who wanted to just get along and utilize America's abundant and rare freedoms by making it easy to be accepted. It has since been turned into a grossly twisted PC goal intended to add to the confusion already sown by them to make it easier to institute a top-down, command government structure so that everyone will accept Communism...and LIKE it!


Alex_Linder bigjulie • a few seconds ago
Notice the jews support forced racial 'integration' in America, against the will of the white majority but in their country, Israel, they forcibly deport any blacks who manage to get in. Jews want Nazism for themselves and destructive 'diversity' for whites. Diversity is simply a pretty name for white genocide.


Alex_Linder bigjulie • 2 minutes ago
You're factually wrong, Julie. Multiculturalism was invented by the jew Horace Kallen with the express intention of destroying white society. Jews like Horowitz are deliberately lying to you.
 
Old February 19th, 2014 #5
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Also, isn't SVP run by a jew billionaire?
Are you talking about Christoph Blocher? He is a billionaire but not a Jew AFAIK.
http://m.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/B...l?cid=31786422
 
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http://www.swissjews.ch/pdf/fr/medie...and_FSCI_F.pdf

An open letter from the Swiss Federation of Israelites Communities () to Anian Liebrand, recently (Jan. 25) unanimously elected president of the young branch of the SVP.

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From 2009, you made the headlines - in a negative context. At the time, speaking of Memorial Day of the Holocaust, you used the term "programs of guilt" that would serve to "reeducate" the Swiss.

From what we learned in the media, you are a well-known conspiracy Swiss media personality. In this environment, there are also many Judeophobe, and you do not seem to score enough distance to face these people. It seems that you are a good friend of the leaders of this community.

What bothers us is that many conspiracy theories aimed at Jewish and cite the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," an anti-Semitic work whose inauthenticity has been proven long ago. Conspiracy often claim that "Jewish financial elite" or "Rothschild" or "Mossad" govern the world.

On Feb. 1st 2014, Hugo Stamm noted in an article in the Tages-Anzeiger that you refuse to take your distances from Manfred Petritsch, which operates a popular blog among the followers of conspiracy theories. We know this blog. Petritsch postulates that there is a "worldwide Jewish conspiracy." Allows antisemitic comments written by its readers and presents Israel and the Jews as the embodiment of evil. All of this apparently doesn't prevent you from cooperating with Petritsch or participating with him in conspiracy meetings across Europe.

You also seem to feed a great enthusiasm for the Iranian regime: in 2012, you had organized a conference in Lucerne allowing the Iranian ambassador to disseminate his political propaganda, in cooperation with the Swiss-Iran Friendship Group (Freundeskreis Iran). According to the "NZZ am Sonntag", the audience included "youth right margin of the SVP and PNOS and followers in conspiracy theories." NZZ noted that critics against Iran had no right to attend this conference. The article entitled "Iran is friends along the right ." It is also common knowledge that the extreme right and the Swiss revisionist maintain close contacts with Iran.
Looks like a good guy...

Other press article:
http://translate.google.com/translat...sser--17889177
He would, however, "not cave."

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Old February 20th, 2014 #7
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Are you talking about Christoph Blocher? He is a billionaire but not a Jew AFAIK.
http://m.swissinfo.ch/eng/politics/B...l?cid=31786422
"He has railed against American Jewish groups, whom he accused of “pure extortion” over their claims for Holocaust reparations from Swiss banks. He campaigns against the Swiss Solidarity Foundation, designed by the Swiss government to serve the memory of the Holocaust, arguing that the money should go instead to the Red Cross." - The Economist

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"He has railed against American Jewish groups, whom he accused of “pure extortion” over their claims for Holocaust reparations from Swiss banks. He campaigns against the Swiss Solidarity Foundation, designed by the Swiss government to serve the memory of the Holocaust, arguing that the money should go instead to the Red Cross." - The Economist

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Great, thanks! Blocher also financed and founded the ASA:

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The Working Group on Southern Africa (ASA) was a Swiss anti-communist organization that supported the apartheid regime of South Africa by influencing the reporting of Swiss media.

The ASA was founded in 1982 by Christoph Blocher founded, then National Council of the SVP. She saw in South Africa an economically and geopolitically important outpost of the West (see Cold War ). Also members were, among others, the National Ulrich Schlüer and Brigadier Carl Man Willow, who had previously headed the intelligence cooperation with South Africa on the Swiss side. It went on the one hand armaments business, which underwent both Swiss law and the UN sanctions, on the other foreign police measures against apartheid critic in Switzerland, as a National Science Foundation study in 2005 pointed out.
 
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22 Apr 2014: https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url

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SVP National is making headlines in Iran

Over Easter multiple SVP National Councils have visited Iran. The declared as private travel is used by Iranian media for propaganda purposes.

"The sanctions against Iran were wrong": This headline made it SVP National Luzi Stamm on Easter Sunday on the front of the Iranian online newspaper "Tehran Times". The Iranian state news agency Irna reported on the visit of the Swiss parliamentarian he had met on Sunday with Alaeddin Boroujerdi, chairman of the Commission on Foreign Affairs of the Iranian parliament. According to the media reports led base in Tehran, a six-member parliamentary delegation at, criticized the Swiss sanctions against Iran and called on them to strengthen the bilateral relations between Switzerland and Iran. "During our stay we have brought in experience that the anti-Iranian propaganda is distorted and does not reflect the realities of Iranian society," is to have the master said loud Irna.
 
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01 Sept 2014: https://translate.google.com/transla...ory%2F23934046

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Young SVP call to denounce leftist profs

According to the party, many qualified teachers leftists use their position to influence and manipulate their students. A call to denounce embarked on a website.

Young SVP declared war on the school and specifically skilled leftist professors who are rampant. They suspect teachers to manipulate and influence the children in their care with education oriented.

So young SVP encourage students to report them on a website , as explained on Monday 1 September 20 Minuten . The site is currently only in German. "Schoolchildren have long complained throughout Switzerland", claims Anian Liebrand [there is a few post about him above, in this thread], President of the Young SVP, citing cases where everything just right is systematically stigmatized.

The website is intended primarily for students of secondary and vocational schools cycles. It has different categories ranging from denunciations of "political indoctrination" to "denigration of parties."

Soon the T-Shirt Christoph Blocher

The project is also accompanied by a campaign against the "educational content left" since the site also wants to offer alternative education by providing material that goes against the "current in effect." However, many sections are still empty of any content ...

Other ideas of the Young SVP to counter the hideout of leftists in their eyes what the school include cultural struggle. In response to the many T-Shirts Che Guevara on the market, they want to sell clothes bearing the image of Christoph Blocher.
The website: http://www.freie-schulen.ch

An image from their website:


Hmm... does this look like a Jew?
 
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...Naturally it wouldn't talk about race. it sounds very neoconny...
The following are the real things who will talk about it. Not only do they wish to preserve ethnic homgenization for Switzerland. They claim to be in favor of preserving the like worldwide:

http://pnos.ch/media/parteiprogramm_de.pdf

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...196. FREMDENPOLITIK

6.1 ) ETHNISCHE UND KULTURELLE VIELFALT

Fremdenpolitik nach ethnopluralistischen Grundsätzen.
Die Politik der PNOS setzt sich für die Erhaltung sämtlicher Kulturen und Völker dieser Erde ein. Diese Vielfalt war schon immer und ist
noch immer die Triebfeder für alle grossen Leistungen und Errungenschaften der Menschheit. Während die Gegner der kulturellen Vielfalt globale Einheit und lokale Vielfalt fordern, steht die PNOS für den Schutz der lokalen Eigenheiten und die globale Vielfalt. Folgerichtig setzen wir uns als Eidgenossen primär für die Erhaltung unserer Gemeinschaft mit all ihren Facetten ein und befürworten gleichzeitig die Erhaltung aller anderen Völker. Die multikulturelle Gesellschaft steht in krassem Gegensatz zu dieser Grundhaltung und wird von der PNOS somit als Perversion des natürlichen Zusammenlebens aufs Schärfste bekämpft...

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Old September 2nd, 2014 #12
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Yes, the PNOS is much better ideologically (though I pretty sure they are Christians). But politically they are (almost) non-existent...
 
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The SVP are definitely not "nationalist". I would describe them as conservative. That said, when I have voted it is usually for the SVP.
 
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