At what point is someone considered "Non-White"?

[John Adams]

Yes Crowe I do hold myself to those same standards. Those DNA tests are crap so have no idea why anyone would trust them. As for White Women being raped by abos and their kids raised as christians, WTF. Keep your bullshit sick anti christian fantasies to yourself. You obviously know fuck all about Australia or our treatment of abos, nor are you willing to learn. You just look for any excuse to indulge your anti christian ideals.
As for your question of having a nigger relative 250 years ago, yes that makes a person non white
I dont need to worry about finding a nigger in the woodpile Crowe, I know my family background.
Mothers side 100% Irish
Fathers side 75%Scottish 25% Native Briton/AngloSaxon

[Alyss]

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Adams
If a person is not 100% White, they are neither a one dropper or White. Its as simple as that

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Has yourself, as yet, had a blood test done to confirm you're 100% european. ?

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by Alyss

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Has yourself, as yet, had a blood test done to confirm you're 100% european. ?

Why would I need a blood test? My family has the documents proving we are 100% European. I can trace both sides back for centuries. If you want to rely on dodgy blood tests run by jew companies thats your problem, not mine.

[Crowe]

Originally Posted by John Adams

Why would I need a blood test? My family has the documents proving we are 100% European. I can trace both sides back for centuries. If you want to rely on dodgy blood tests run by jew companies thats your problem, not mine.

What about pre Austrialian colonial times, lets say 500-600 years ago. How do you know you don't have a kike or a Gypsy in the woodpile from way back? You can't tell me you can trace all your family lines back 500-600 years. Every generation you go back, 2 lines from your parents split into 4 with your grandparents, and then your great grandparents lines would split into 8, and so on. You would have more than 100 lines to trace back if you go back 500+ years. And what happens if someone in the line was adopted? With little evidence who that person's mother/father was, etc they were just dropped off at the orphanage?

Originally Posted by John Adams

As for White Women being raped by abos and their kids raised as christians, WTF. Keep your bullshit sick anti christian fantasies to yourself. You obviously know fuck all about Australia or our treatment of abos, nor are you willing to learn. You just look for any excuse to indulge your anti christian ideals.

So you're telling me non-Whites weren't raised as christians? Why did your people convert abos then? I understand you're a catholic, surely you know that your anti-White religion engaged in those activities? Or do you have you face planted so far up a scantily clad kike's ass who's mounted on a stick that you're incapable of seeing reality?

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by Crowe

What about pre Austrialian colonial times, lets say 500-600 years ago. How do you know you don't have a kike or a Gypsy in the woodpile from way back? You can't tell me you can trace all your family lines back 500-600 years. Every generation you go back, 2 lines split into 4 with your grandparents mothers and fathers, and then your great grandparents lines would split into 8, and so on. You would have more than 100 lines to trace back if you go back 500+ years. And what happens if someone in the line was adopted? With little evidence who that person's mother/father was, etc they were just dropped off at the orphanage?



So you're telling me non-Whites weren't raised as christians? Why did your people convert abos then? I understand you're a catholic, surely you know that your anti-White religion engaged in those activities? Or do you have you face planted so far up a scantily clad kike's ass who's mounted on a stick that you're incapable of seeing reality?

1 I can go further back than 500 years
2 There were no gypsies, niggers, other non whites in those areas of where both sides come from. You are forgetting that jews were kicked out of Christian countries. There were no niggers in Ireland, Scotland, England during those years
3 If you knew anything about half breed abos you would know that regardless of if they were raised as Christian they were still classified as NON WHITE. I was already born before abos were regarded as citizens
4 Members of my family have fought zog even in recent years and they are Catholic. When was the last time athiests fought against zog?
Why do you seem to be trying to establish that I am not White?

[Crowe]

Originally Posted by John Adams

You are forgetting that jews were kicked out of Christian countries.

Jews were expelled from Britain in 1290 by christians, then allowed back in 1656 by christians. Keep in mind that christians only ever viewed jews from a religious pretext, not a racial one. Its why your precious Catholics in Spain only sought to convert jews to christianity. There was plenty of time for race mixing with hymie during that time frame. Jews were allowed back in all christian countries prior to modern times. Christianity is anti-White, they let jews back in Europe. And Europe is in its current position because of the combinations of semites (kikes) and semitic expansionist religions (christianity). That's the reality of the situation John Adams. If you wish to continue clouding your vision with semitic delusions, then that's a personal problem.

4 Members of my family have fought zog even in recent years and they are Catholic. #1When was the last time athiests fought against zog?
#2Why do you seem to be trying to establish that I am not White?

#1- Since when does a lack of belief in imaginary friends have anything to do with someone's core ideology? There were plenty of National Socialists who died fighting for Germany that didn't have a belief in the imaginary, but put their race/nation/family above all else.

#2- That was never my intention John Adams. My point is you can't claim 1 drop status with genealogy alone. The claims of being able to trace every single line (more than 100) back more than 500 years are really extraordinary claims. I don't think one single document is going to prove that. That doesn't mean you're not White. It just means your one drop rule is unrealistic.

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by Crowe

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#1- Since when does a lack of belief in imaginary friends have anything to do with someone's core ideology? There were plenty of National Socialists who died fighting for Germany that didn't have a belief in the imaginary, but put their race/nation/family above all else.

#2- That was never my intention John Adams. My point is you can't claim 1 drop status with genealogy alone. The claims of being able to trace every single line (more than 100) back more than 500 years are really extraordinary claims. I don't think one single document is going to prove that. That doesn't mean you're not White. It just means your one drop rule is unrealistic.

Crowe are you aware that the SS had priests?
The Church kept records on baptism, marriage and death. You may think its extraordinary but it can be done if you put some effort into looking it up. The real problem is that to many Whites are to fucking lazy to look up their family history and instead just dismiss the claims of others as being extraordinary.
When you marry the girl in the next village, you know who her family is. Makes me laugh that you say genealogy does not determine bloodlines, it was ok for the SS, so why is it not ok for me or would you rather we all submit to bullshit tests run by the jew because you are to fucking lazy to put some effort into looking up your family history

[Crowe]

Originally Posted by John Adams

#1 When you marry the girl in the next village, you know who her family is. Makes me laugh that you say genealogy does not determine bloodlines, #2 it was ok for the SS, so why is it not ok for me or #3 would you rather we all submit to bullshit tests run by the jew because you are to fucking lazy to put some effort into looking up your family history

#1 - This comment leads me to believe you don't really understand what the fuck you're talking about. You don't know whether that person you married might have had a non-White somewhere in their line from way back, and the only real judge at the end of the day is do they look White? Act White? Etc. You might know their parents or their grandparents.

#2 - The SS didn't have the luxury of DNA tests, and genealogy was the best they had. And genealogy doesn't necessarily determine if you're truly 100% White genetically. The nuremburg laws were really lax from a racial perspective. Genealogy could easily detect a higher % of non-White (like 1/8th or 1/16th) if they go back lets say 150 years. Which I believe was how far they went back. That was about as far as they could go back for the average German. Things like records are written on paper, and places that store them can get burned down, bombed, demolished, etc. Certainly any really old records.

#3 - Someone could come up with a more accurate DNA test that isn't politically motivated. If a pro-White group came up with such a test, would you take it? I would. I don't have anything to hide. One droppers who fear finding 0.01% kike in the woodpile might be a little scared of facing the music for being a mischling. If my DNA test came back and looked something like Gabriel's, it wouldn't change a fucking thing for me personally. Any reasonable definition of "Whiteness" would consider that to be White.

[John Adams]

Weird how you keep trying to find non whites in countries that never had them until recently. Tell me crowe where the fuck in my family line would anyone have married a nigger, gypsy or jew. Go on, find a jew or other non fucking White in Northern Ireland or the Border areas of Scotland England during the years 700 AD to 1850 AD. Unlike America, we dont fuck non whites.

[Crowe]

Originally Posted by John Adams

Weird how you keep trying to find non whites in countries that never had them until recently. Tell me crowe where the fuck in my family line would anyone have married a nigger, gypsy or jew. Go on, find a jew or other non fucking White in Northern Ireland or the Border areas of Scotland England during the years 700 AD to 1850 AD. Unlike America, we dont fuck non whites.

You said you were 25% British. There were plenty of jews in Britain between 700AD and 1850AD. Some of your lines had the potential for race mixing. Jews have heavily race mixed with Europeans, its obvious due to some of them possessing Northern European features like blonde hair and blue eyes. I'm not sure at any point in time did christianity ever consider jews another race. Racial jews as long as they converted to christianity were OK. This also explains how a jew might be counted as a White European Christian in some record books. You really don't know unless you get an accurate DNA test done. I'm not talking about from one of these marxist companies.

And what was the point in that unnecessary jab? You won't find a White country where its population doesn't engage in race mixing with non-Whites. We have the jews and christianity to thank for that.

Besides, Australia used to be a British penal colony for criminals, and how can anyone bring up crime without jews being involved somehow? Jews were no doubt involved in your country in a similar way they had their hands involved in the US.

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by Crowe

You said you were 25% British. There were plenty of jews in Britain between 700AD and 1850AD. Some of your lines had the potential for race mixing. Jews have heavily race mixed with Europeans, its obvious due to some of them possessing Northern European features like blonde hair and blue eyes. I'm not sure at any point in time did christianity ever consider jews another race. Racial jews as long as they converted to christianity were OK. This also explains how a jew might be counted as a White European Christian in some record books. You really don't know unless you get an accurate DNA test done. I'm not talking about from one of these marxist companies.

And what was the point in that unnecessary jab? You won't find a White country where its population doesn't engage in race mixing with non-Whites. We have the jews and christianity to thank for that.

Besides, Australia used to be a British penal colony for criminals, and how can anyone bring up crime without jews being involved somehow? Jews were no doubt involved in your country in a similar way they had their hands involved in the US.

I said 25% native briton/anlosaxon...you telling me that my Anglo warlord ancestor was jewish are you, lol or do you mean the native Picts.
Australian history lesson number 1..most Aussies are descended from free settlers not convicts
Your to paranoid, you see jews where there are none

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by Crowe

There were plenty of jews in Britain between 700AD and 1850AD. Some of your lines had the potential for race mixing. Jews have heavily race mixed with Europeans, its obvious due to some of them possessing Northern European features like blonde hair and blue eyes. I'm not sure at any point in time did christianity ever consider jews another race. Racial jews as long as they converted to christianity were OK. This also explains how a jew might be counted as a White European Christian in some record books. .

Go over to the English section and repost your comment there, I`m sure they will love your version of their history and how you seem to think they must be heavily race mixed with jews

[Gabriel Braun]

Originally Posted by John Adams

Go over to the English section and repost your comment there, I`m sure they will love your version of their history and how you seem to think they must be heavily race mixed with jews

Why must you always start shit on my posts? Prove to me that you're the pure blooded Aryan you claim to be and you can call me a kike all you want. Either way it won't affect me. I'm still devoted to the racialist cause regardless. I am white. Pretty much everybody agrees with me except you. And I'm beginning to think you're some sort of troll who lurks on this site specifically to start conflict among people who are supposed to be your allies. Multiple people have outted you as a shit talking trouble maker who does nothing productive. And even if you actually DO go out and do activism, you're blatant disrespect of fellow nationalists makes you a thorn in the side of the cause. Fact. I don't care how book smart you are. You're no better then the Jews you claim to hate attacking fellow whites over petty hair splitting.

[Alyss]

Originally Posted by John Adams

Why would I need a blood test? My family has the documents proving we are 100% European. I can trace both sides back for centuries. If you want to rely on dodgy blood tests run by jew companies thats your problem, not mine.

So? Paper documents? You have no idea who your ancestors fucked and reproduce with until you get a blood test done.... And so many whites that do get blood test have very small tiny amount of non white in them. You are too afraid to do one because you know there is a very good chance there is 1% (0r less) non blood in you.

Going on about the Ayran race... truth is, whites like you need to grow up.... And fast!

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by Gabriel Braun

Why must you always start shit on my posts? Prove to me that you're the pure blooded Aryan you claim to be and you can call me a kike all you want. Either way it won't affect me. I'm still devoted to the racialist cause regardless. I am white. Pretty much everybody agrees with me except you. And I'm beginning to think you're some sort of troll who lurks on this site specifically to start conflict among people who are supposed to be your allies. Multiple people have outted you as a shit talking trouble maker who does nothing productive. And even if you actually DO go out and do activism, you're blatant disrespect of fellow nationalists makes you a thorn in the side of the cause. Fact. I don't care how book smart you are. You're no better then the Jews you claim to hate attacking fellow whites over petty hair splitting.

1 I dont have to prove anything to you
2 Calling you a kike without proof will get me banned.
3 Who are these multiple people that you claim have outed me?

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by Alyss

So? Paper documents? You have no idea who your ancestors fucked and reproduce with until you get a blood test done.... And so many whites that do get blood test have very small tiny amount of non white in them. You are too afraid to do one because you know there is a very good chance there is 1% (0r less) non blood in you.

Going on about the Ayran race... truth is, whites like you need to grow up.... And fast!

Are you still trying to promote the scum known as the UPF here in Australia.
Unlike you, I dont support people who are friends with non whites

[Gabriel Braun]

Originally Posted by John Adams

Are you still trying to promote the scum known as the UPF here in Australia.
Unlike you, I dont support people who are friends with non whites

Dude. Will you just stop? If you dont have anything productive to say, dont say it. Simple.

[John Adams]

Originally Posted by Gabriel Braun

Dude. Will you just stop? If you dont have anything productive to say, dont say it. Simple.

Alyss is a known supporter of the UPF a group here that has non whites speak at their rallies. It has many links to various multicultural and jew groups.
The UPF is the Australian equivalent of Englands EDL. One more thing Gabriel, the UPF evolved from the Australian National Anarchists

[Emily Henderson]

I sent in the Ancestry.com one-the good one, not the 23 and me.

I have a lot of info on the different 'branches' of my family tree, but am curious.

Mom's side: French, Irish, German, Swiss, English/ Father's: Dutch, English, Scottish.

I'm curious about the Stuarts (Mary Stuart, Queen of Scots-yep I is royal), Gilberts, Houstons, Greunders, and DeCheneaus in particular.

There is some info on the Stuarts and 'Komnenos' Greeks being related in the wayback--they fought for the Byzantine Empire.

Sam Houston is rumored to go back to the Alumbrados in Spain-particularly King Philip II. And there is possibly a Habsburg connection-but not sure, and of course rumors abound about the Habsburgs.

Have to wait 4-8 weeks.

If I drop off the map in 8 weeks I am a nigger and couldn't handle it.

[Emily Henderson]

Still waiting but received interesting criticism for my doing the testing.

For doing it and for spending *my* money on it.

My answer to that is: mind your own business.

Firstly-if race matters, one has every right to use the technology available to test their ancestry.

Second-there is 'junk science' which does not test enough alleles, and only uses 12/12 markers, for example. And there is now much more thorough science to determine very closely what makes up 'you', racially.

I'm not afraid of it--and I wonder what the hyper-critical are so worried about? Fear=slavery.

I'm totally looking forward to it-I've found some interesting stuff re Greeks and Russians related to the Stuarts, and % of German is interesting to me also, since I found where Matthew Greunder came over in 1676 to NC, and the French speaking Swiss (Visinand) intermarried with a family called 'Neff' in Edenkoben, Germany and came to Pennsylvania.

White people used to pass an oral history down--we've broken that chain quite a bit and don't know some of these things-technology can fill in some of the gaps. It's awesome.

And a personal choice.