#1 Drug Prohibition / Legalization / Global Drug Wars Thread: Prop 64 in Colorado

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Make a small trash fire. Nope. Some kind of city ordinance. Not legal.

As a practical matter, I can probably do it and get away with it, but I don't like acting furtive, I want to enjoy my fire.



I'm sure Alabama has hunting seasons. And if you're caught, say, hunting deer without a license, or at wrong time, you will get charged big bucks.

We have exactly one game warden for the entire county. Yesterday sitting on my front porch two bucks ran out of the woods into the field across the road directly in front of my house. I could have easily been dining on venison right now if I wanted to, and I've never bought a hunting permit in my life; though I don't shoot wild animals on principle, since I prefer farm-raised beef and pork. I have eliminated numerous troublesome canines over the years however, though I don't suppose it's necessary to have a permit for those.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by N.B. Forrest

A fine forest retreat you cobbled together there, Akins.

That isn't my abode, you Nimrod!

I was using that photo as an example of why government restrictions and regulations can sometimes be a good thing.

Unfortunately eyesores like that exist in far too many numbers because there isn't enough regulation, or what there is isn't enforced.

[Zenos]

Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley

I'm fond of my brain

That will be in someone's signature by the end of the day.

[N.B. Forrest]

That isn't my abode, you Nimrod!

Heh heh heh.....Your sense of humor equals your level of modesty.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by N.B. Forrest

Heh heh heh.....Your sense of humor equals your level of modesty.

What do you expect? I'm not English.

[Tintin]

Joe beat me to a lot of the points I would make.

Originally Posted by JoeOfGDNY

I grew up with lots of stoners, at least 1/4 of my high school smoked every day. Today those very same people are wiggers, leftists or some other type of man-baby degenerate. Smoking marijuana is linked to higher risk of homosexuality, apathy, and a drop in general intelligence.

Correct. If you grew up surrounded by stoners, you would know the reality of MJ. There is no amount of "research" by "experts" that can change the reality of MJ.

Originally Posted by JoeOfGDNY

Cultural Jewry pushes pot consumption like nothing else to the point where it's now a regular and accepted part of Western culture, that alone should arouse suspicion. Pot smoking seems to be inseperable with being low-brow, brain-dead or race mixing.

Jews demand you put down your smokes and pick up a joint all around the world. That doesn't raise any alarms with any of you?

Correct again. Think about it.

Originally Posted by JoeOfGDNY

I hate puritan hypocrisy as much as anyone else, but it's hard not to notice the reverance for weed among 60's nation-warpers and today's Zionist created nigger/wigger culture. There's definitely something in MJ that we're not being told, that kills testosterone and brain cells until you start thinking shit like "free-love", homosexuality, abortion and/or acting like a nigger is a good idea.

More reality.

Originally Posted by JoeOfGDNY

The Feds and money moguls might want to keep pot illegal to keep steady income with all the drug cartels they're profits with. I think Jewry is at a crossroads as to legalize it to further retard the gentiles culturally, or to just keep it "illegal" (but still used by most people) and dish out warnings and small fines for smoking it out in public like they do for the most part.

Very plausible.

[Donnie in Ohio]

I played in bands for years.

I've known users/abusers of just about every recreational drug ever used. In my personal experience with those I knew, the most destructive one, by far, was alcohol. Some people really shouldn't drink. Everything else was a distant second.

I don't classify heroin or methamphetamine as 'recreational drugs' btw. If you're so bored with life that you're injecting drugs directly into your veins, you really need to find a hobby.

[Tintin]

Some here are falling into the typical trap that the White man seems susceptible, meaning, focusing on some universal "good" or "right" and not considering the implication to the race. Arguing from the "states rights" and "freedom" position with regards to MJ would make sense in a White nation controlled by the White men. But that is not the USA.

So the only question is, is MJ good for the White race. No!

Certainly, for the jew, what is good for the jew race takes precedence over any and all other ideals, including the covenant with their "god", their law, and their tulMUD.

Think about it, as a White man, if you could have jew teenagers smoke MJ daily or not, what would be do? Do you think that the jew wants White teenagers smoking MJ?

The whole way in which MJ is being legalized is very jewy. Giving it nice names like "medical" MJ and "legal" MJ. Just like "legal" and "safe" abortion. Note is it is being legalized in small amounts so enough the the TV class can be convinced it is "safe". And of course it will become a "right" like pornography. And it will be easily assessable to children like condoms with claims of not promoting MJ, but if children are going to do it anyway. There will be narratives created that will claim thing humans are being forced to suffer by evil White men, that the next Steve Jobs or Bob Marley will not be able to change the world, etc. There will be Utopian logic like "people are going to do it anyway". There will be "experts" and "research" with people with suspicious sounding names funded by people with similar sounding names.

And all of that will be brought to the White people by the same information sources that told miscegenation is good, niggers are humans, segregation is bad, the "holocaust" fairytale, abortion is a constitutional right, etc.

And just watch, who will blamed for putting up the road block to Utopia that the jew pied piper is leading the enlightened? Of course, the usual suspects, evil White men who are clinging to their rigid Western values.

[Tintin]

Claiming that somehow the legalization of MJ is going to negatively affect the jew shekel count is just ridicules. For one, if this were the case, the jew media and entertainment industry would clearly be sending the message, and producing "experts" and "research" to scare the TV class.

Don't be surprised that if at the beginning the jew is arguing MJ is a state issue, and once it is accepted by the TV, the jew starts arguing that MJ is a federal issue an needs to be regulated by the federal government. Don't be surprised if it become a constitutional right, and that the states have no right to regulated it all, including restrict the use of MJ. How can the happen? Easy, once phrase like "medical MJ" and "legal MJ" have served their purpose, the jew will switch gears and start, using their tools to promote a need for "safe MJ", and of course, only the federal government can be trusted to regulate "safe MJ".

The fact is, the jews are going to be on MJ like flies on shit, or think, jews on porn industry, or jews on abortion industry.

[Tintin]

Originally Posted by Fred O'Malley

Joe, I've seen far more wigged-out fuckers who don't use than that do. Most of the "heads" that I know are very intelligent and use it like a martini, after the day's work is done. OTOH, I see stupid assholes every day, that are straight as a string and uptight to boot. Relax, it ain't as bad as you think it should be.

With all due respect...

This is the type of typical Utopian "logic" used to justify anything and everything the jew tells TV class to accept. The TV class is forced to argue by anecdote because it is all they have. And in many cases the anecdotes are Utopian Urban legends.

Here are some examples:

"I know niggers with a Ph.D. from MIT in Quantum Physics and a White guys that are a incompetent ditch digger, therefor niggers are humans."

"I know monogamous, loving feco-pedo-homo-phile couples in a committed long term relationship and married White guys who cheats wives and rape their neighbors daughters, so fags are normal and moral."

[Fred O'Malley]

Originally Posted by Tintin

So the only question is, is MJ good for the White race. No!

You haven't studied it enough. The medicinal value alone proves you wrong.

[Alex Linder]

People using pot aren't a problem, except to themselves. If others are forced to pay for them, that's a separate problem - socialism. I'm against drug prohibition because it strengthens the cops.

What's good for Whites? Pot being legal. And cops having less power.

[Alex Linder]

Would jews profit from legalized pot? Almost certainly. More than they do from illegal drugs? Almost certainly not. Illegal drugs are not only a tremendous slush fund for ZOG's various agencies (CIA, for example), their being illegal leads to an entirely different, cowed mentality among former freemen.

Before the drug war, cops had to justify what they did to you. The assumption was you were a free man - a U.S. citizen. Unless you were obviously committing a crime, cops had to have a reason for messing with you. They couldn't just demand your ID, and taser you to death if you gave them any backtalk, and have it called a justifiable homicide by the courts, as happens pretty much weekly here in the US.

Today, we have to justify everything you do to cops, thanks to the dual drug/terror war. You have to submit to embarrassing, intrusive full body scans, while standing there undignified and foolish in your bare feet, like you're some kind of shitskin wading thru the Rio Grande, or kind of nigger criminal or livestock animal. You can't bring three ounces of liquid on a plane. You have to show fifteen types of ID to buy a paint gun.

This is the world we have. It didn't use to be like this. The drug war preceded the war on terror, and in many ways set the psychological basis for it.

Then there's asset seizure. If you carry money, even low four figures, the cops can simply assume it's for nefarious drug reasons and seize it. They can do that to your vehicle too. Good luck getting your goods back!

This is the world the jews have built.

Anything that reduces the scope of policing and the power of police is very definitely good for whites and we should support it.

[Steven L. Akins]

People who enjoy using mood altering substances obviously prefer the way they feel when using them, compared to the way they feel when they aren't using them - otherwise they wouldn't use the substances in the first place.

This shows that that aren't satisfied or don't enjoy being straight/sober, that they have a problem dealing with the normal experience of everyday life the way it is meant to be experienced without mood-altering substances acting as some sort of filter for them.

Therefore there is something wrong with people who use mood-altering substances, they are defective human beings and should be treated as such, based upon their infantile inability to handle real, everyday, life without the drugs that baby them.

[Horseman]

legalizing drugs takes away power from the whole judicial system, and also reduces the power of non-white gangs. Drugs are one of the few ways nonwhites are able to make money. Also, I think if it's legal it will not necessarily drive kids to do it more, as part of the attraction is that they are being a rebel by doing something illegal. All around it's a good thing to legalize it.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Horseman

legalizing drugs takes away power from the whole judicial system, and also reduces the power of non-white gangs. Drugs are one of the few ways nonwhites are able to make money. Also, I think if it's legal it will not necessarily drive kids to do it more, as part of the attraction is that they are being a rebel by doing something illegal. All around it's a good thing to legalize it.

As much as I am against the use of marijuana by weak-willed pussies who need to get high to get through life, pot really isn't the scourge on society that worse drugs like crystal meth, PCP, and heroin are. I guess I'd rather have people smoking joints than doing that other shit.

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

People who enjoy using mood altering substances obviously prefer the way they feel when using them, compared to the way they feel when they aren't using them - otherwise they wouldn't use the substances in the first place.

This shows that that aren't satisfied or don't enjoy being straight/sober, that they have a problem dealing with the normal experience of everyday life the way it is meant to be experienced without mood-altering substances acting as some sort of filter for them.

Therefore there is something wrong with people who use mood-altering substances, they are defective human beings and should be treated as such, based upon their infantile inability to handle real, everyday, life without the drugs that baby them.

Everything humans do alters mood. As well outlaw sex, jogging and church. Pot simply isn't the danger it's been made out to be.

[Steven L. Akins]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Everything humans do alters mood. As well outlaw sex, jogging and church. Pot simply isn't the danger it's been made out to be.

Marijuana does more than just altering a person's mood; it also affects their mental state, it dims their clarity and ability to focus, distorts their perception, slows their reaction time, affects their awareness and their judgement. In short it renders them potentially dangerous when operating vehicles or machinery; it also makes them a nusiance to society.

[Jimmy Marr]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Everything humans do alters mood. As well outlaw sex, jogging and church. Pot simply isn't the danger it's been made out to be.

I don't think the government should control people's access to pot, and I think relieving people of their personal responsibility for that decision in the past has led to an impairment of their ability to do so in the present.

I see the effects of pot usage as being akin to those of church attendance, but don't see government intervention as a viable preventative. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[Fred O'Malley]

Originally Posted by Steven L. Akins

Marijuana does more than just altering a person's mood; it also affects their mental state, it dims their clarity and ability to focus, distorts their perception, slows their reaction time, affects their awareness and their judgement. In short it renders them potentially dangerous when operating vehicles or machinery; it also makes them a nusiance to society.

You're talking about abusers, not users. There's a world of difference, but I don't expect reality to penetrate your preconcieved notions. You're too holier than thou, being a judgemental son of a bitch, like you are.

It is about freedon, from harassment, having the ability to decide for yourself, without the nanny state and their paid goons fucking your life up for personal decisions.

I just don't understand superficial thinking at all.