31 Zogbots Killed in Afghanistan Helicopter Crash

[Jay in DC]

Originally Posted by Donnie in Ohio

Typical disjointed 'tardbabble.

You conspiracy nutbars are beyond help.

Now take the above statement, and apply it to re: Jay in DC

Not everyone is out to get you Whitey (though most are). I have FAR fucking more to lose than any of you coming to a place like this and making my thoughts known. You are not being entrapped by a fedkwap; because entrapping you on what? It is all bark and toothless bite here. You'd actually have to, you know, do something for any agency to take notice of you.

Not to mention the likelihood you are already being monitored is approx. 99% so what the hell difference would it make?

[OTPTT]

Originally Posted by Jay in DC

I have FAR fucking more to lose than any of you coming to a place like this and making my thoughts known.

You say you're not here to entrap anyone but you made the following post last night:

Originally Posted by Jay in DC

This. See this? It is fucking poetry. Is it happening now? Is the revolution here? I'm not sure. But if pull my M4 off the shelf tonight and kill 100 niggers in DC before I die, will one of you; Just one, do the same thing in your town? Or will you silently fap to a picture of Hitler and spunk all over your copy of Mein Kampf.

Let me know...

Would that be a BATF issued M4 by chance? And what does the term 'fap' mean? Who uses such words and is it something you'd normally hear in the halls of the U.S. Department of Justice or the FBI?

[DiCarlo]

Originally Posted by Donnie in Ohio

Do you still think VNN is "controlled opposition", DiC?

As far as you're concerned. That's for sure ....

[Alex Linder]

Originally Posted by OTPTT

You say you're not here to entrap anyone but you made the following post last night:

Originally Posted by Jay in DC
This. See this? It is fucking poetry. Is it happening now? Is the revolution here? I'm not sure. But if pull my M4 off the shelf tonight and kill 100 niggers in DC before I die, will one of you; Just one, do the same thing in your town? Or will you silently fap to a picture of Hitler and spunk all over your copy of Mein Kampf.

Would that be a BATF issued M4 by chance? And what does the term 'fap' mean? Who uses such words and is it something you'd normally hear in the halls of the U.S. Department of Justice or the FBI?

Interesting. Yeah, I'm watching this guy. His technique of mentioning violence and then a sort of 'who's with me?' is a technique we've seen from undercover cops on here before. Also the use of 'fap' meaning masturbate is something I've only seen from Israelis and jews. It's also hard to believe a cop in DC would announce same on a WN forum, especially when he believes the forum is heavily monitored.

[Alex Linder]

Belligerent, blowhard tone/persona is also associated with cops and informants - Hal Turner, for example.

[Zeth O. Grady]

Originally Posted by OTPTT

And what does the term 'fap' mean? Who uses such words and is it something you'd normally hear in the halls of the U.S. Department of Justice or the FBI?

Actually it probably is, considering that the DOJ is completely dominated by Jews and non-whites.

[Jay in DC]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Interesting. Yeah, I'm watching this guy. His technique of mentioning violence and then a sort of 'who's with me?' is a technique we've seen from undercover cops on here before. Also the use of 'fap' meaning masturbate is something I've only seen from Israelis and jews. It's also hard to believe a cop in DC would announce same on a WN forum, especially when he believes the forum is heavily monitored.

Couple things...

1) I am assuming I have some anonymity here, if I don't I will bug the fuck out quickly. All forums of this nature are monitored, do not doubt that. And what is undercover? I announced myself for Chrissake.

2) Alex, you seem like a standup guy and far smarter than your average internet warrior WN mouthpiece. To this end, I find this place worth my time and presence.

3) Trivial Pursuit Tip: BATF issued M4? That shit is classic. BATF are some of the most well-trained dogs that exist. A little "inside the Capitol Beltway" piece of trivia for you; There is rivalry here. BATF could not tie their fucking shoes without instruction but like attack dogs are willing to kill when ordered without question. I'm a little too smart for such a career path. I live in DC, my HQ is Arlington. I'm sure with a little Google you can figure it out.

4) And probably most relevant: You have no fucking support on the inside. None. So let's isolate the few people who are sympathetic to your position, legally badged and armed, and racially aware. You want to commit this kind of suicide as a movement- ban my account and or IP. I will find other places spend my quality time. At the end of the day, I accept any takers from this entire site that have had even 1/4 of my effect in keeping people that don't deserve to live among humans in cages.

[Roy]

Jay, let me tell you a little something. This is a discussion forum, that's it. You come here talking about your "credentials" and get into a hissy fit when no one takes you seriously. Here's why: Anyone can type in their "credentials" into a keyboard and puff themselves up into a skull cracking jew killer. It's as simple as typing such claims into the keyboard.

Anyone can make any claim they want... bigger bank account, more chest hair, more "inside" machismo or whatever. It doesn't mean shit to anyone here because your claim is unverifiable as long as you remain anonymous. You may be 100% truthful in your claims, you may not be, it's impossible for anyone to know one way or another, so we have to err on the side of what is verifiable, and thus you end up with nothing.

That is why this forum is only good for exchanging ideas, that's it. By you doing your chest-pounding thing, it doesn't give you any more credibility than if you just stayed quiet about it. In fact, it gives you less credibility than if you just kept your mouth shut, because now you sound like a shit-talker.

And another thing, there is something in debating called "expert opinion". You attempt to gain one-ups-manship here on the forum by casting yourself as an expert. But, your claims of being an expert are worthless due to the unverifiable nature of such claims, hence you gain no one-upsmanship here.

So, if you want discussion, this is a great place to do it. By being anonymous we can get some edgy type ideas out there that most people wouldn't do under their real names. Ever go to a meeting with an over-bearing boss? What happens? His opinions dominate because he's the one with the authority to write performance reviews, etc. Thus certain good ideas might get shuffled away. No such ranking here, and thus it's more of a free-for-all.


If you do want real world credibility that gets real respect on the forum, you have to give up your anonymity like Alex, April, Rounder and a few others have done. Indeed, their words count for more because they aren't anonymous. If you want the same, you've got to go by your real name.

Keep on posting, we'll be reading, but please don't present yourself like the guy on the left:

[C. Grady Tucker]

Yeah, the BATF are well trained. Just watch the Waco video for training tips. Killing pets is another well known ZOG tactic. Sammy Weaver showed some U.S. Marshals what happens when you do that.

Most of the people I've known named "Jay" were jews. I know that's not a hard and fast rule but it seems to be a popular jew first name.

[America First]

http://www.trumanlibrary.org/oralhist/wright.htm

1948

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This has already been posted

Paul Craig Roberts

http://www.vdare.com/roberts/110806_...icts_claim.htm

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by: Nesta Webster

Prefatory comments by Jackie P.

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Continued

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/w...ngland/1.shtml

[Donnie in Ohio]

Originally Posted by DiCarlo

As far as you're concerned. That's for sure ....

The question really wasn't about me, DiC.

Here is the post again:

Originally posted by DiCarlo
I don't donate to controlled opposition. What would be the point? I'm a WN. This place supports and encourages disinformation agents and smear merchants like you. Like Stormfront, is infiltrated with your kind.

Do you believe VNN is "controlled opposition"? It's a pretty "yes or no"-kinda question, DiC.

Opposition to what, exactly?

Where is your evidence of this extraordinary claim?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't actually have any. Other than not everyone heer subscribes to your various bizarre conspiracy theories, that is.

The reason I can say that is I've been reading VNNF for a looooong time and I've never seen any evidence that would suggest it was "controlled opposition".

A helicopter gets downed in a fucking active war zone responding to a unit that was heavily engaged and under fire at the time and your instant response is that it's somehow connected to a massive decade-long ongoing conspiracy ultimately over faked hijackings on 9/11.

[Jay in DC]

Originally Posted by Roy

(Very intelligent and civil dialogue clipped for brevity)

Keep on posting, we'll be reading, but please don't present yourself like the guy on the left:

That was very enlightening and I do appreciate your point of view a little better now. You are 100% correct that I cannot verify without repercussion my location, chosen profession, or any of the rest of it just like most of you here cannot as well. We simply are not at that place as a society yet though perhaps with current events that time may come sooner rather than later.

[M. Delataire]

Originally Posted by Alex Linder

Interesting. Yeah, I'm watching this guy. His technique of mentioning violence and then a sort of 'who's with me?' is a technique we've seen from undercover cops on here before. Also the use of 'fap' meaning masturbate is something I've only seen from Israelis and jews. It's also hard to believe a cop in DC would announce same on a WN forum, especially when he believes the forum is heavily monitored.

To add to Alex's comment; from my travels in Europe "fap" is Dutch slang for masturbation. Where it originated in Dutch slang I have no idea. It does however make me wonder why someone from D.C. would use Dutch slang?

[Mike Parker]

US helicopter 'shot down in Taliban trap'

A helicopter which crashed killing 30 US troops in Afghanistan was shot down after the Taliban laid a trap to lure US forces into the area, an Afghan government official said on Monday.


Intelligence showed that the Chinook helicopter carrying 30 US troops was brought down by multiple shots

08 Aug 2011

"Now it's confirmed that the helicopter was shot down and it was a trap that was set by a Taliban commander," said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The official said the commander lured US forces to the scene by telling them there was a Taliban meeting taking place there.

The official said that President Hamid Karzai's US-backed government "thinks this was a retaliation attack for the killing of Osama bin Laden."

The Taliban did not make such an assertion when they claimed responsibility for the attack.

Citing intelligence "gathered from the area," the official blamed Qari Tahir, a Taliban commander, for masterminding the attack. He alleged that four Pakistani nationals helped Tahir carry out the strike.

He said the intelligence also showed that the Chinook helicopter was brought down by multiple shots including "modern weapons" without giving further details.

The helicopter was attacked from either side of a valley, the only route to the Taliban-dominated Sayd Abad district in Wardak province where the attack happened late on Friday, the official said.

"The Taliban knew which route the helicopter would take," he added.

"That's the only route, so they took position on the either side of the valley on mountains and as the helicopter approached, they attacked it with rockets and other modern weapons. It was brought down by multiple shots," he said.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...iban-trap.html

[Leonard Rouse]

I'm waiting on a similar happening with one of their ridiculous aircraft carriers.

[Chad Wentworth]

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by Leonard Rouse

Reckon the DC is "deep cover" or some such bullshit?

A hit Sir, a palpable hit!

[Hugh]

Originally Posted by Mike Parker

US helicopter 'shot down in Taliban trap'

More likely a charge was placed inside the helicopter, and detonated remotely.
Nice and neat.
Then the Intel boys take over, and voila, the evidence is whatever you want it to be.

[MikeSmith]

http://news.yahoo.com/airstrike-kill...184555111.html

Don't worry everyone. We got em. Even the one who fired the RPG, Mullah Mohammad-Ima-Govt-Fiction.

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH

[Ian]

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — An airstrike by international forces has killed the Taliban insurgents responsible for the downing of a U.S. helicopter this weekend in which 38 U.S. and Afghan troops died, including the militant who launched the fatal rocket-propelled grenade, the military claimed Wednesday.

The claim of success comes amid fears that as U.S. troops begin to leave Afghanistan, the country is far from stable and remains deadly for those forces who remain. As U.S. troops thin out, special operations forces like those that died in Saturday's helicopter crash are likely to make up a greater part of the American force in Afghanistan.

F-16 fighter jets killed the insurgents responsible on Monday, according to the top American commander in Afghanistan, Marine Corps Gen. John Allen.

So the guys that took down the Chinook ran away in a group, and still in a group some days later were blown away by an airstrike, seems to be the story.